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craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
December 24 2017 10:03 GMT
#21
On December 18 2017 08:55 Chrysanthemum wrote:
It seems to be more than camera hotkeys not being counted. I noticed some small discrepancies prior to the latest patch between blizzard's apm and bwchart's apm--from 10 to 40 apm generally. I average between 300 and 400 apm but most of my recent games bwchart is saying I'm at about 150 apm. I just played a game where I had 380 apm according to the blizz end-game counter, but 180 apm according to bwchart. What's curious is that my opponent also had 350 end-game counter apm, which bwchart came much closer to--323 apm.

Looking at the hotkeys recorded it seems that bwchart is counting my hotkey presses fairly accurately. It looks like maybe my mouse use is not being counted.

BWChart also doesn't count the first two minutes of the game. I think what's most annoying in this version is the crashes when refreshing replays due to corrupt replays.
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Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
December 29 2017 07:36 GMT
#22
It's broken again for all replays that I save in the current patch (after it was fixed for the last patch that broken it)
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dragonattack
Profile Joined January 2012
15 Posts
January 06 2018 09:51 GMT
#23
On December 10 2017 02:29 jca2 wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9s14suslvn0wtbq/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

The work is still in progress as there are new actions in the replay. I need more time to understand what they are and learn how to decode them. For example, you will see the new "select121" action, that is nothing more than a usual select except that the unit IDs are stored on 4 bytes instead of 2. I assume the other new actions are also variants of existing ones. We'll see.

jca2, what do you think about making available sources somewhere at github for example, so the community could help. at least we can do that for replay parser part.
zookeeprr
Profile Joined April 2011
United States5 Posts
January 07 2018 16:48 GMT
#24
jca2, what do you think about making available sources somewhere at github for example,


I'm all for this, and would gladly help out. Love BWChart.
Macro slips? Drop an expo.
Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
January 13 2018 17:35 GMT
#25
Any news on this front? As the ignorant noobie who just wants the benefit of the program, I don't want to come across as pushy, but is there a new working version out there?
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-13 20:15:04
January 13 2018 20:14 GMT
#26
On January 14 2018 02:35 Chrysanthemum wrote:
Any news on this front? As the ignorant noobie who just wants the benefit of the program, I don't want to come across as pushy, but is there a new working version out there?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/9s14suslvn0wtbq/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

this works for me (apm count seems a bit unusual but the program is mostly working)
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Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-13 22:04:30
January 13 2018 21:03 GMT
#27
On January 14 2018 05:14 sM.Zik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2018 02:35 Chrysanthemum wrote:
Any news on this front? As the ignorant noobie who just wants the benefit of the program, I don't want to come across as pushy, but is there a new working version out there?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/9s14suslvn0wtbq/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

this works for me (apm count seems a bit unusual but the program is mostly working)


Strange, that's the one I currently have. I can't view any replays past around late December, every replay after is "corrupt."

Upon further testing it seems that something like 25% of the replays are corrupt such that BWChart crashes on launch. Given that BWChart requires you to launch it, see what number replay is breaking the program, delete that replay, re-launch, crash, then launch again for each replay that does this, 25% broken might as well be 100% broken; it's not feasible for me to go through and find them all. I did the above process for about 10 replays, which took almost 30 minutes, and that only took me from December 24 to December 28.
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jca2 *
Profile Joined March 2006
France52 Posts
January 14 2018 10:21 GMT
#28
Could you post 2 or 3 of those corrupted replays please? Thanks.
APM? Never heard of it...
Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-15 02:33:56
January 15 2018 02:33 GMT
#29
Sure, here's a few: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ruuobg5tdewpt23/Corrupt_Replays.rar

I only did 2 day's worth of them, and opened each one up in BW. It looks like every game affected involved me being an observer via the new observer function.
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jca2 *
Profile Joined March 2006
France52 Posts
January 16 2018 14:15 GMT
#30
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Version 2.00C, Build 2.
Let me know if you still have crashes

APM? Never heard of it...
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
January 16 2018 19:47 GMT
#31
On January 16 2018 23:15 jca2 wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Version 2.00C, Build 2.
Let me know if you still have crashes



My anti virus wouldn't let me open it :\
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Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
January 16 2018 20:05 GMT
#32
On January 16 2018 23:15 jca2 wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Version 2.00C, Build 2.
Let me know if you still have crashes



Awesome, thanks for your hard work. This versions appears to have eliminated 99% of the corruption issues. There were three corrupt replays remaining: a couple of replays of random UMS games and one replay of an actual game where I was an observer. If you want to see the latter replay it's here (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynb49ibuwcg90yh/010139-Fighting_Spirit_1.3%28.rep) but given that you fixed the vast majority of the issues I was having I wouldn't blame you at all if you didn't think taking a look was worth the time. Thanks again.
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TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
February 14 2018 16:30 GMT
#33
works fine for me. just some maps that names are un korean i think. the caracters make a false corruption. when i change them, they load fine
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9950 Posts
September 17 2019 19:56 GMT
#34
On January 16 2018 23:15 jca2 wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Version 2.00C, Build 2.
Let me know if you still have crashes


Hey jca,

Refresh my mind here: did you actually invent the term APM through BWChart?
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1794 Posts
September 18 2019 12:47 GMT
#35
why bump this instead of a PM? which is way more likely to be seen
LML
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
September 18 2019 13:16 GMT
#36
On September 18 2019 04:56 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2018 23:15 jca2 wrote:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eutdyfj1i612icm/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Version 2.00C, Build 2.
Let me know if you still have crashes


Hey jca,

Refresh my mind here: did you actually invent the term APM through BWChart?


Not sure about the term but the actions performed vs time was already being discussed before, see here for some links to old threads about superview
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
February 05 2022 12:36 GMT
#37
Is 2.00C supposed to work with remastered?

It just says it couldn't open the game. I made sure the path to Starcraft.exe is the right one.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1794 Posts
February 05 2022 14:17 GMT
#38
On February 05 2022 21:36 Zoler wrote:
Is 2.00C supposed to work with remastered?

It just says it couldn't open the game. I made sure the path to Starcraft.exe is the right one.


Try this one for remastered instead: https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/554203-software-scrchart-v20-released
LML
Headgehog
Profile Joined January 2022
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-02-05 15:08:03
February 05 2022 15:04 GMT
#39
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