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Patch 1.21's BWCharts problem

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cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-09 07:38:51
December 09 2017 04:51 GMT
#1
Hi

I'm korean user

(sorry for my english..)



since 2003 i used bwchart very useful

and when patch 1.18, bwchart 1.0x series didn't work

but then jca2 updated bwchart 2.00B, so used it very well

but blizzard patched 1.21, now bwchart doesn't work again


i sent pm to jca2 for request for remaking bwchart

but i don't know when jca2 would read it

can someone find out why doesn't bwchart work to 1.21?

bwchart 2.00B working 1.18~1.20.11's replays but 1.21's


if you need 1.20.11, 1.21 replays is here.

1.21's replay(doesn't work bwchart)

1.20.11's replay(bwchart work well)

and bwchart 2.00B's link is here
Bwchart 2.00B
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10727 Posts
December 09 2017 05:30 GMT
#2
Hey, I wish BW Chart was still working, I'm not sure if it is still being used to be honest, ummm didn't DakotaFanning make it? not sure. I hope it gets updated soon, it's an awesome tool.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
December 09 2017 06:19 GMT
#3
No jca made it. Dakota made the sc2 version I believe. We will just have to wait and see if he updates it.
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cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
December 09 2017 07:32 GMT
#4
i hope too but still not respond from jca2...
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2553 Posts
December 09 2017 07:37 GMT
#5
I check bwchart after almost all of my games, I hope it'll be patched soon
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jca2 *
Profile Joined March 2006
France52 Posts
December 09 2017 15:16 GMT
#6
Thanks for the replays. I have started looking into them and I will release a new bwchart as soon as I can.
jca
APM? Never heard of it...
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3390 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 13:45:37
December 09 2017 16:41 GMT
#7
On December 10 2017 00:16 jca2 wrote:
Thanks for the replays. I have started looking into them and I will release a new bwchart as soon as I can.
jca

Thank you for your dedication to the StarCraft community!
김택용 Fighting!
cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
December 09 2017 17:29 GMT
#8
thank you jca2

if you need other replays, i will upload it
jca2 *
Profile Joined March 2006
France52 Posts
December 09 2017 17:29 GMT
#9
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9s14suslvn0wtbq/bwchart200C.exe?dl=0

Here you go. If you had previously added 1.21 replays to your database, you will have to rebuild it to see the correct engine version.

The work is still in progress as there are new actions in the replay. I need more time to understand what they are and learn how to decode them. For example, you will see the new "select121" action, that is nothing more than a usual select except that the unit IDs are stored on 4 bytes instead of 2. I assume the other new actions are also variants of existing ones. We'll see.

APM? Never heard of it...
cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
December 09 2017 17:38 GMT
#10
oh.. i can't believe it

i opened once some replay of 1.21

very thankful, and if there is something i can help i will help your work

for example, 0x61 thing is set rally i guess, not sure,

but thanks, anyway
cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-09 18:59:22
December 09 2017 17:41 GMT
#11
i misunderstood for set rally is 0x61
attack, attack move, move(click M key of keyboard) patrol, gather, set rally, clear rally, repair, comsat scan,
load, unload, lay mine, any other energy skill and nuke launch in 0x61 too

shift deselect in 0x65
shift select in 0x64
lost vision on selected unit in 'Deselect'
Bunker's all unload in 'Unload all'
One click unload from Bunker, Dropship in 0x62
Land in Build
Cancel Research in 0x31
Cancel Upgrade in 0x33
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
December 15 2017 11:30 GMT
#12
My BWChart crashes as soon as I want to add my replay library Help?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
December 15 2017 16:55 GMT
#13
On December 15 2017 20:30 chrisolo wrote:
My BWChart crashes as soon as I want to add my replay library Help?


For me, I need to open BWChart a couple of times before it will tell me which replay is causing the crash.

So, try 1: opens 1/2 way, crashes
Try 2: opens 1/2 way, says "replay #### is corrupt, please remove"
Before clicking OK I just use the search function to find the ### and delete it
Press ok afterwards, BWChart opens. Upon opening it will likely pop up with a list of corrupt replays that it wants to move to another folder. This notification never goes away for me, even if I've already said "yes move to another folder." For whatever reason there are replays that prevent BWChart from opening entirely (crash on startup) and replays that just cause the pop-up but otherwise let you open BWChart.

If there is more than one corrupt replay preventing BWChart from opening you have to do the above process for each one. So if you have 4 corrupt replays that need to be manually deleted, you will do the above, delete replay #1, then hit OK and BWChart will just crash again. Then you open it again, it crashes again. Then you open it again, it will say "replay #2 is corrupt, please delete it" etc.
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chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 19:14:54
December 15 2017 18:04 GMT
#14
Ye deleting all the replays that were corrupt by hand did actually help. Why doesn't have the programm a feature to auto delete (or auto move them into a "corrupt replays" directory) them though? I deleted one and still encountered the "same" mistake (didnt really take a look on the replay name since the autosave naming of replays is quite bad in SC:R) but it was just another replay that was corrupt. After deleting them all one by one it works normally. Thank you very much Chrysanthemum.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
December 15 2017 21:20 GMT
#15
Just curious, is APM broken in this version? Or is apm broken inside of starcraft? I just played a game, bwchart said my apm was 165 my opponent was 266, after the game though it says my apm is 193, opponent is 275. SC seems to be counting some actions bwchart does not.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-15 22:07:21
December 15 2017 22:07 GMT
#16
On December 16 2017 06:20 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Just curious, is APM broken in this version? Or is apm broken inside of starcraft? I just played a game, bwchart said my apm was 165 my opponent was 266, after the game though it says my apm is 193, opponent is 275. SC seems to be counting some actions bwchart does not.

I believe classic bwchart doesn't count the camera hotkeys. Don't know if it is updated in the latest versions.
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5532 Posts
December 15 2017 22:50 GMT
#17
That was the first thing that came to mind, i do use the camera keys quite a bit.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
December 16 2017 04:31 GMT
#18
bwchart 2.00c reads improperly some action. so it is not perfect version yet
jca2 is in the process of fixing errors in bwchart.
cautionary
Profile Joined December 2017
10 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-16 06:51:03
December 16 2017 06:49 GMT
#19
and as far as i known, camera key(f2~f4) is can't count in any programs. it was
Chrysanthemum
Profile Blog Joined October 2017
55 Posts
December 17 2017 23:55 GMT
#20
It seems to be more than camera hotkeys not being counted. I noticed some small discrepancies prior to the latest patch between blizzard's apm and bwchart's apm--from 10 to 40 apm generally. I average between 300 and 400 apm but most of my recent games bwchart is saying I'm at about 150 apm. I just played a game where I had 380 apm according to the blizz end-game counter, but 180 apm according to bwchart. What's curious is that my opponent also had 350 end-game counter apm, which bwchart came much closer to--323 apm.

Looking at the hotkeys recorded it seems that bwchart is counting my hotkey presses fairly accurately. It looks like maybe my mouse use is not being counted.
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