EPTRegarding Streaming of ASL - Page 5
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
However as has been said, only die hard bw fans will watch your event if it is that way. There's no way the unfamiliar with bw/young twitch user will find your stream via browsing top games/streams and tune in. Or the twitch user who likes tastosis and tunes in just for them. Or the sc2 guy who wants to see what the hype is about. These guys won't go to afreeca because they don't even know afreeca exists and no they don't browse TL. You will lose a ton of potential foreign audience. A better solution would have been to broadcast for free one more season, get good numbers and then negotiate with twitch/yt. Thanks anyway for keeping bw alive and continuing to provide an english cast. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
On September 09 2017 16:06 RouaF wrote: From a business pov it makes 100% sense. Personally I'm not mad because I'll probably still get to watch in the same conditions. Here's the thing that puzzles me though - assuming the majority of Koreans watch on Afreeca as opposed to Twitch (my assumption could be waaaaay off on this), this seems to shut out primarily foreign users. Exactly what advertisers on Afreeca are appealing to foreign customers? If it was the other way round and I owned a UK-based fried chicken conglomerate, telecoms/internet provider etc advertising on Twitch, I wouldn't particularly care if Korean users aren't watching my stream on Twitch and are watching on an Afreeca restream because they're not my target audience anyway? Are Afreeca advertisers really that dumb to assume that if the ASL stream gets x% more viewers because foreign users are now watching it'll translate to x% more revenue? | ||
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Ancestral
United States3230 Posts
They're missing out on basically the entire market. Business is complicated so in the end it's just unfortunate it didn't work out, but there's no way BOTH Twitch and Afreeca wouldn't be better off with the right agreement. Unless Afreeca is going for the long con and trying to expand to Western markets, but Twitch is very entrenched. | ||
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Cheesefome
314 Posts
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Cryoc
Germany912 Posts
If Afreeca becomes indeed watchable within the next few days/weeks at max resolution without buffering, it is the best opportunity to showcase that to foreigners. If not you have to wonder why they would even keep the English casters. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
 Afreeca is much more watchable even in higher qualities for me recently, it doesn't keep buffering like in the past. Thanks for your continued support Afreeca | ||
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BossPurple
Sweden65 Posts
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hype[NZ]
Japan412 Posts
On September 09 2017 18:02 BossPurple wrote: Does Afreeca still require Adobe Flash? Afreeca has an html 5 player option that you can select by clicking the stream settings button on a stream page (i.e. the cog). | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
I don't think it is shortsighted to try and get a fair share for all the work they put in and if they end up being a good alternative to watch certain games or events that pushes twitch and YT to do more and better I only welcome that. | ||
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byj
499 Posts
![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/4dVmFiQ.png) Does this mean I will have to DL the afreeca app to watch ASL in decent quality? | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13365 Posts
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
Too bad that it won't bring in as many new people as it would if it were on Twitch, having Starcraft on number 3 or something on Twitch would automatically make a lot of new people check it out. Anyway, will watch with great joy and can't wait to watch the first big tournament of Starcraft: Remastered! | ||
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
afreeca has been generous in offering asl via twitch/yt in the past for free, so huge thanks for that! they need serious work on their technology though, not just on server side but also client/browser side. i'm definitely tuning in, i hope this all works out. gl hf | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Arkaim
United States63 Posts
AfreecaTV has a lot of good ideas, and I thought it was pretty funny how Twitch pretty much ripped off Afreeca's ideas with their Bits style streamer support. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
I mean from what I heard, there's going to be 2 English live cast on Afreeca for ASL that's happening at 3 AM or whenever the tourney starts so I'm not taking away from any of that since I gotta sleep for weekday work. A lot of people and I got work, life, or whatever so if I were to do any sort of casting, I rather do it much postponed/delayed time on Twitch, that way people who want to watch Korean VODs with English translations can do so anytime. But once again, this goes back to my previous thread, what would be legality of this? | ||
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Arkaim
United States63 Posts
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
On September 10 2017 03:40 Arkaim wrote: Yeah, I dunno QuickStriker. There was a long tradition of English people restreaming Broodwar stuff. But this isn't Broodwar of the olden times anymore. This is Broodwar HD. I doubt the old arrangement will keep going on. Sayle used to do this all the time back in the days. Not sure how a 20 years old game (even if it's the HD version) can prevent what fans want to do. Also, anyone in legal, how long does it have to be for fair use/copyright/trademark expires before it's public domain for something like casting SC BW? | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.speedtest.net/result/6610590364.png) ...and i can NEVER watch a stream on Afreeca. I love Broodwar but always have to find a twitch stream. I always can watch for about 3 minutes before it starts chronically buffering the the point where it is a slideshow. This is just by watching either embedded or afreeca site streams in Mozilla. Thanks for making the ASL, I just really want to be able to see this on Afreeca so I am sharing my experience. | ||
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