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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
September 08 2017 22:17 GMT
#61
On September 09 2017 06:44 EsportsJohn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 06:42 QuickStriker wrote:
This is unfortunate and disappointing but I suppose understandable. Perhaps something can be worked out for all the viewers who cannot watch at Afreeca currently due to buffer/lag issues.

I was seeking to look into doing English translation/commentary (more translation side) for this tourney but decided to back off when I heard originally that there were dedicated English casters on Twitch.

I'll contact Afreeca and Twitch directly regarding some Q&As for options since the situation changed.


Ping me too. Maybe we can do some sort of tri-cast for the ENG2 stream.

Sure, let's talk on PMs or somewhere for any arrangements. I've been busy with work past week but when I get the chance, we can brainstorm together!
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands4987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 22:34:55
September 08 2017 22:34 GMT
#62
afreecaTV.Char, will AfreecaTV still upload ASL4 VODs to (their respective channel on) YouTube however?
FBH #1!
xplo
Profile Joined December 2016
14 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 23:26:11
September 08 2017 23:25 GMT
#63
seems like there is no afreecatv app for android tv. It's seems also you cannot stream afreeca content from computer to smartv-tv/android tv. Twitch and Youtube are also great for that you can just watch it on big tv screen without a computer.

Is there no way to watch afreeca on android tv ?

Looks like BW is really indeed back in 2007, we ll get low quality of restream of afreeca for the few than can get it on livestream
flashimba
Profile Joined May 2011
225 Posts
September 08 2017 23:29 GMT
#64
Is there any chance of having delayed restreams on twitch and youtube?
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
September 08 2017 23:42 GMT
#65
Well, I at least hope Afreeca gets fixed so foreigners can reliably watch it. I definitely can't.
Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-08 23:56:40
September 08 2017 23:56 GMT
#66
On September 09 2017 07:34 Peeano wrote:
afreecaTV.Char, will AfreecaTV still upload ASL4 VODs to (their respective channel on) YouTube however?


I don't see any reason why not. This issue only involves event livestreaming to my knowledge.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
September 09 2017 00:03 GMT
#67
It's a business move that we understand. Just please make it buffer free and provide English cast on afreeca. Then we would watch like crazy
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
September 09 2017 00:18 GMT
#68
Directly streaming to VLC seems to alleviate a lot of the buffering issues for me and I reside on US east coast.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Air2gear
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
177 Posts
September 09 2017 01:07 GMT
#69
I feel like this will be a big blow to the growth of foreign fans and scene. There will be a lack of accessibility for new viewers whose interest has been piqued with the release of remastered, who would watch it on twitch when they see a tournament on for curiosity.
Levque
Profile Joined October 2016
88 Posts
September 09 2017 01:35 GMT
#70
Wow, terrible decision. I really thought this tournament was going to ride the remaster hype and get some good viewing numbers on twitch.

Why not prove to twitch that you can actually get some good numbers first and then start pushing your weight around for ASL 5? Why stunt the potential growth outside of Korea like this while the foreign interest hasn't been this high in over a decade???

Sigh....well hopefully negotiations will continue and maybe the 2nd half of the tournament will get on twitch...
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4163 Posts
September 09 2017 01:58 GMT
#71
On September 09 2017 06:09 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2017 05:49 NickHotS wrote:
I have to imagine this will be remedied before/during the season, Blizzard won't let this happen.

You appear to have a lot of faith in Blizzard, who asks Afreeca to pay them money to host a tournament to pay twitch money to pay afreeca for their licensing rights.

and Afreeca is asking Twitch and Youtube for licensing rights as well?
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
FvRGg
Profile Joined June 2016
68 Posts
September 09 2017 02:31 GMT
#72
I will be gladly watching on Afreeca, but it is difficult to get friends to watch without Twitch content.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13005 Posts
September 09 2017 02:32 GMT
#73
Ugh this really sucks. Hopefully the upgrades theyre making will work.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3682 Posts
September 09 2017 03:10 GMT
#74
Aw man, youtube is the only plattform with 2 hour rewind for every stream, I really enjoyed that feature.
However, since the asl qualifiers afreeca has been working quiet well for me, even without vlc. Was a nightmare before. Guess I'll actually have to tune in on time now, but thanks for improving afreeca for global viewers.

Also thank you so much for running a starcraft league, much appreciated <3
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 03:13:54
September 09 2017 03:13 GMT
#75
this is a good side effect if it will make other afreeca streams better viewing with lower stutters.
previously it was difficult to watch most streams for me even with lower than source quality and it's gotten slightly better over time.
i'll take that as the half full glass.

i hope you guys will upload your VODs to youtube so we can continue advertising and sharing your games.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8230 Posts
September 09 2017 03:29 GMT
#76
I thought Blizzard wanted to grow the game? Shouldn't they help Afreeca cover some of the costs of letting Afreeca incurs so they can stream on Twitch and not have to sell to Twitch?
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
September 09 2017 03:37 GMT
#77
I would be fine watching on Afreeca (in truth I watch more Afreeca streams than Twitch streams nowadays), but due to the time the games play in the US, I can't watch live. Will there be any VOD access through Afreeca's site or elsewhere after the games are played?
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1011 Posts
September 09 2017 03:39 GMT
#78
On September 09 2017 12:37 Dromar wrote:
I would be fine watching on Afreeca (in truth I watch more Afreeca streams than Twitch streams nowadays), but due to the time the games play in the US, I can't watch live. Will there be any VOD access through Afreeca's site or elsewhere after the games are played?


This. I never watched ASL live only through VOD:s on Twitch.
superjoppe
Profile Joined December 2004
Sweden3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 06:21:39
September 09 2017 03:53 GMT
#79
- Afreeca stream is shit for non-Koreans, you better improve your CDN a lot
- Everyone is watching twitch in the west, so showing ASL on twitch introduces the game to tons of new people. Do you really want to limit your non-Korean audience to hardcore fans on teamliquid that knows about afreeca? From a business perspective I thought you wanted more viewers, not less.

Edit: and its freaking 2017, please stop with the flash nonsense. Every other site in the world works with html5 already.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51444 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-09 04:03:43
September 09 2017 03:55 GMT
#80
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