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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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epicdoom
United States489 Posts
On September 09 2017 00:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: but buy hmm what ? twitch is a free service to stream,is up to afreeca to stream their tournament there.Why will twitch pay afreeca to they stream in their own twitch channel (the GSL one) their tournament and give the twitch community viewers .ok thats a f*cking chaos hope someone understand what im trying to say. I can see blizzard interested in paying Afreeca to stream on twitch,that makes sense. Probably because every viewer that isn't on afreeca is less ad revenue for them and increased ad revenue for twitch. So I'd guess they want to get some of their projected money back that would lose to twitch, hence selling the media rights. | ||
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raymix1
United States10 Posts
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raymix1
United States10 Posts
On September 09 2017 00:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: but buy hmm what ? twitch is a free service to stream,is up to afreeca to stream their tournament there.Why will twitch pay afreeca to they stream in their own twitch channel (the GSL one) their tournament and give the twitch community viewers .ok thats a f*cking chaos hope someone understand what im trying to say. I can see blizzard interested in paying Afreeca to stream on twitch,that makes sense. twitch earns revenue by running ads and ip flows. so the viewers loss is a loss of revenue for afreeca. | ||
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Bacillus01
France32 Posts
On September 09 2017 01:38 raymix1 wrote: all they need to do is to improve their streaming infrastructures, to improve the user experience. in this way, we won't feel uncomfortable of switching to afreeca. Yeah I still don't understand why it is so laggy / buggy for us outside korea to watch anything on Afreeca? I'd be very happy to watch Afreeca if it wasn't laggy......... All those korean top bw players streaming on Afreeca that we are missing on as well, not just ASL | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Does this go for VODs as well? I think it's a miscalculation, but it's your tournament :X Exclusive afreecatv isn't exactly going to make foreigners start using Afreeca for anything other than this tournament. There's no other content for us on there, and no motivation to try to get integrated into it. YouTube and Twitch are competitors in some sense, but they serve a totally different market that you cannot really reach with Afreeca. I guess you are concerned with losing Korean users to YouTube, but you can't really gain non-Korean users until you make things convenient for us. The nerdiest among us who used to use Afreeca's software remember getting locked out when Afreeca suddenly decided to block foreign IPs and require Korean id to make an account. When we represented a tiny part of the user base taking barely any resources because the barrier to entry with language was already very high. I am glad Afreeca supports StarCraft, but it's not really the first time they protect their interests in a way that screws up their relations with foreigners. Afreeca can be really petty. | ||
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On September 09 2017 00:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: but buy hmm what ? twitch is a free service to stream,is up to afreeca to stream their tournament there.Why will twitch pay afreeca to they stream in their own twitch channel (the GSL one) their tournament and give the twitch community viewers .ok thats a f*cking chaos hope someone understand what im trying to say. I can see blizzard interested in paying Afreeca to stream on twitch,that makes sense. Twitch and Blizzard actually inked a deal recently wherein, presumably, Twitch paid Blizzard [x] dollars for exclusive rights to most of Blizzard's key esports titles. Brood War/Remastered is not on that list unfortunately. http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170620005229/en/Twitch-Blizzard-Entertainment-Team-Bring-Epic-Esports | ||
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
On September 09 2017 05:07 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Twitch and Blizzard actually inked a deal recently wherein, presumably, Twitch paid Blizzard [x] dollars for exclusive rights to most of Blizzard's key esports titles. Brood War/Remastered is not on that list unfortunately. http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20170620005229/en/Twitch-Blizzard-Entertainment-Team-Bring-Epic-Esports Considering the content afreeca provides for SC:Remastered compared to what everyone else is doing I don't think that it is unfortunate remastered is not on that list. Of course it would be nice if remastered got some sort of events mentioned in the article, but the exclusivity would probably be pretty bad for remastered considering its player base outside of korea. | ||
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outscar
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NickHotS
United States105 Posts
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lestye
United States4178 Posts
On September 09 2017 00:44 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: but buy hmm what ? twitch is a free service to stream,is up to afreeca to stream their tournament there.Why will twitch pay afreeca to they stream in their own twitch channel (the GSL one) their tournament and give the twitch community viewers .ok thats a f*cking chaos hope someone understand what im trying to say. I can see blizzard interested in paying Afreeca to stream on twitch,that makes sense. Twitch often buys rights to events and pro organizations. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On September 09 2017 05:49 NickHotS wrote: I have to imagine this will be remedied before/during the season, Blizzard won't let this happen. You appear to have a lot of faith in Blizzard, who asks Afreeca to pay them money to host a tournament to pay twitch money to pay afreeca for their licensing rights. | ||
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srj
Canada134 Posts
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6684 Posts
On September 09 2017 06:00 lestye wrote: Twitch often buys rights to events and pro organizations. yes for dota and league and some other top games,but for remastered ? i guess twitch should be like ok... Afreeca owns the gsl channel so they get ad revenue from it right ?i dont think this decisión is helping afreeca,but right now blizzard and afreeca are just testing who can do worse. | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
I was seeking to look into doing English translation/commentary (more translation side) for this tourney but decided to back off when I heard originally that there were dedicated English casters on Twitch. I'll contact Afreeca and Twitch directly regarding some Q&As for options since the situation changed. | ||
EsportsJohn
United States4883 Posts
On September 09 2017 06:42 QuickStriker wrote: This is unfortunate and disappointing but I suppose understandable. Perhaps something can be worked out for all the viewers who cannot watch at Afreeca currently due to buffer/lag issues. I was seeking to look into doing English translation/commentary (more translation side) for this tourney but decided to back off when I heard originally that there were dedicated English casters on Twitch. I'll contact Afreeca and Twitch directly regarding some Q&As for options since the situation changed. Ping me too. Maybe we can do some sort of tri-cast for the ENG2 stream. | ||
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Aylear
Norway3988 Posts
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JWD[9]
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Intari
31 Posts
On September 09 2017 06:55 Aylear wrote: This is really terrible news. Twitch reaches a huge playerbase who would not ordinarily tune in, but may become interested in Brood War as a result of the stream being high up in the directory. There is nothing good about this corporate nonsense, and is only depriving the tournament of views. This was my reaction too. This was by far the best time to get lots of new foreign eyes on Brood War. Won't happen if it's only on afreeca.  | ||
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