SC:R Closed beta is out

On July 31 2017 02:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Sc2 pros got instant access ? O-o

On July 31 2017 03:09 TaShadan wrote:
lol ptitdrogo the real bw pro.
His probe split is amazing :D

On July 31 2017 03:10 outscar wrote:
You got one TT1? And how to check ? Email? Update launcher?

On July 31 2017 02:54 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Sc2 pros got instant access ? O-o

On July 31 2017 03:21 mishimaBeef wrote:
firebathero also appears to be streaming from home

On July 31 2017 03:22 Keniji wrote:


alot of the Korean (ex)-pro's are streaming HD from home.

Sea, Last, Shuttle...

On July 31 2017 03:33 TT1 wrote:
no need to be jelly, watching ppl play bw is as good as playing it yourself

also you can play vs sc:r beta players even on 1.19

On July 31 2017 03:40 Jae Zedong wrote:
Twitch removed BW category.

On July 31 2017 03:44 outscar wrote:


How they dare? 1.16.1 and iCCup is still a thing.

On July 31 2017 03:55 Bakuryu wrote:
best is playing 4:3 with the new graphics, i thought it was only 4:3 with SD and 16: 9 with HD?

On July 31 2017 03:49 Akara12345 wrote:
Someone pls take pictures of the PC bangs.

On July 31 2017 05:09 Golgotha wrote:
Im watching some korean streams at pc bangs. holy shit the game looks smooth and much better in FPV. i thought it was a bit clunky in the GG tourney.

so you can play in 4:3 with HD on?

On July 31 2017 06:24 fish_radio wrote:
I am so happy about the game.

But I am angry about beta style.

Fish admins = no beta
Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, Boxer, Effort, NaDa, ChulGu, HongGu, Last, Shine, Shinee, more = no beta
SC2 players = beta???

On July 31 2017 06:41 ppp87 wrote:
Why blizzard is not giving beta access to current active top bw foreigners ?

On July 31 2017 06:46 Jae Zedong wrote:
Pretty sure Blizzard could get their contact info if they tried.

On July 31 2017 06:47 TT1 wrote:


how? by sending them PMs on TL.net? lol

On July 31 2017 06:47 TT1 wrote:


how? by sending them PMs on TL.net? lol

On July 31 2017 06:47 TT1 wrote:


how? by sending them PMs on TL.net? lol

On July 31 2017 06:51 Jae Zedong wrote:

You really think Blizzard doesn't have the connections to get a hold of famous e-sports figures?

On July 31 2017 07:00 TT1 wrote:


we were talking about top foreign bw players, i dont think blizzard even knows who the current top foreign players are.

On July 31 2017 06:24 fish_radio wrote:
I am so happy about the game.

But I am angry about beta style.

Fish admins = no beta
Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork, Boxer, Effort, NaDa, ChulGu, HongGu, Last, Shine, Shinee, more = no beta
SC2 players = beta???

On July 31 2017 07:07 Jae Zedong wrote:
Sorry TT1, I thought we were talking about this comment:



So I could not believe how you could think Blizzard couldn't get a hold of Jaedong, Flash, Boxer if they tried.

Yeah I don't think current BW foreigners should get a beta key ahead of top Koreans.

On July 31 2017 07:07 Jae Zedong wrote:
Sorry TT1, I thought we were talking about this comment:



So I could not believe how you could think Blizzard couldn't get a hold of Jaedong, Flash, Boxer if they tried.

Yeah I don't think current BW foreigners should get a beta key ahead of top Koreans.

On July 31 2017 07:10 blade55555 wrote:
Well Jaedong got a key. I know Larva did, Shine did (watching him right now ), Last did. Idk if they got it from Blizzard or viewers though. But yeah I agree, all top koreans should be given Keys at least.

On July 31 2017 07:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
This is done for advertising, korea already has it going on to the max. In the foreign scene these sc2 players are simply a good way to promote SC:R even more.

On July 31 2017 10:00 MymSlorm wrote:
Not only for pros and ex pros, if you uploaded and made content for Broodwar you also get a Beta, i know a guy who got this beta just being a youtuber

On July 31 2017 07:16 outscar wrote:


Larva streaming from PC bang. Last got key from some fan. Shine sitting on bang too.

Also remember this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EAshkRGp7c
SC2 guys got their hands to test out Remastered way before.

On July 31 2017 07:59 Keniji wrote:


thats the main point here.

Especially for top foreign players, they have zero reach except for people that are already watching BW and are therefore hyped for remastered anyway.

On the other hand, they could showcase the game better than people that have never played it.

On July 31 2017 18:20 HaN- wrote:
Nony didn't get SCR invite, even tho Blizzard has his infos from a previous event.

On July 31 2017 21:15 arb wrote:
Watching Larva earlier he was getting games basically instantly. Not sure if it creates channels everytime ones full(nor how many can be in one channel) but he was in Kor-31? maybe 39 which is insane

On July 31 2017 21:33 Demurity wrote:
Can anyone who has remastered here say what the max count you can have on your friends list? Thanks

On July 31 2017 21:21 LaLuSh wrote:
I think the matchmaker is global as TT1 says. But it prioritizes matching you by geological proximity.

So if it can't find me a European after 10 minutes it starts branching out and searching for Americans/Koreans. Just sucks waiting for 10+ minutes for each game.

Latency feels good on ladder, but I can't confidently say what turn rate it is. I've lagged against koreans in 2 out of 3 games. One of the games was really good ping even though he was korean.

On July 31 2017 21:39 Flameling wrote:


Thanks for the reply. I'm a fan of global matchmaking, but being stuck in a laggy game with ladder points on the line sounds pretty horrible.

On August 01 2017 00:58 Cele wrote:


Ret has had big successes too, but i was talking about recent accomplishment and current best players, not the best players from 8 years ago. I'm fine with inviting some great players of the good old days and im looking forward to see them play. But going over players like trutacz, eonzerg, bonyth etc. in favor of those is just not right.

On August 01 2017 01:34 youngjiddle wrote:
any big Koreans react to remastered yet?

On August 01 2017 00:58 Cele wrote:


Ret has had big successes too, but i was talking about recent accomplishment and current best players, not the best players from 8 years ago. I'm fine with inviting some great players of the good old days and im looking forward to see them play. But going over players like trutacz, eonzerg, bonyth etc. in favor of those is just not right.

On July 31 2017 20:27 LaLuSh wrote:


He should try starting Starcraft and logging in to battle.net.

I was whining about not being able to play remastered. Then a couple of hours later I tried to log into battle.net on regular Starcraft...

And once I logged in to the battle.net client the game just instantly switched from SD to HD.

I was also at the SC:Remastered summit with Nony.

Try logging on with your regular SC copy if you haven't already

They should give out more keys because I have to search for 10+ minutes to get a game on the ladder.





Also the ladder leaderboard seems to be broken for EU accounts. It won't load. Seems to happen to all EU players regardless of which server you connect to.

On August 01 2017 02:42 Moonsalt wrote:
I'm so triggered. No offense to ret,tlo, drogo and other dudes but they just played it for like an hour on stream and will never touch this game ever again. And us, that have been waiting for this shit for months and just get absolutely nothing but a shitty 'advertisement' called 'closed beta'. FU Blizzudrdrd.

On August 01 2017 03:38 The_Red_Viper wrote:
You are mad over basically nothing, not surprised by this ofc.
I would understand it if this was a closed beta which would run over a few months where blizzard actually asks for input, etc.
But this isn't the case, it's simply a form of advertising it to a western audience. Players like TLO are valuable for that, Trutacz is not. It's that simple. In two weeks everybody will be able to play the final product.

On August 01 2017 04:02 Cryoc wrote:
Maybe I am too old, but I don't understand the urge to play a game in beta stage. It is very likely that the issues with the occasional missing inputs or falsely allocated control groups from 1.18 still exist for players with higher apm. I wouldn't want to play BW with updated graphics but worse gameplay. And sadly I wouldn't be surprised if this continues to be the case for quite some time after the release date (or even forever).

On August 01 2017 04:25 NonY wrote:
I cannot connect to multiplayer at all. It says I need to upgrade and when I click the upgrade button, BW crashes and b.net app does nothing. When I restart, it's still the old version.

On August 01 2017 04:26 radley wrote:
Guys stop yelling, since there is no logical reason in giving beta access to StaCraft: Brood War players, since they are going to buy Remastered edition anyway. I totally understand Blizzard decision - they know that in sc2 community there are many people who never touched sc1 and best way to make them interested is promoting game by their sc2 idols.
At the end it could be better for all of us - more relatively weaker players to smash. Honestly, the bad thing is that korean pros got access to beta (well most of them got it half-legally but accepted by Blizzard, if only someone's statement in this topic was correct). Their gameplay can be discouraging for sc2 players.

On August 01 2017 04:30 CobaltBlu wrote:


Try running the StarCraft Launcher exe in the install folder to install the update.

On August 01 2017 04:49 NonY wrote:

hmm I don't even have that file



launching with starcraft.exe causes same behavior

On August 01 2017 02:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I really don't get why people are mad now. This is called "beta" but in the end it's just advertising.
The product will be out in 2 weeks for everyone. It's not like you could contribute a lot now anyway.
Would it be nice to play 2 weeks before release? Sure. But damn if that actually angers you i don't know what to say tbh.

On August 01 2017 06:14 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
So traitors who switched from BW to SC2 like Mana, ret, TLO have beta and they are just talking on streams like "SC2>bw", "lol bw so sux, units so stupid", "i will do not switch to this game, dont see future for it" seems like
very good advertisement - hahaha, so nice decision by Blizzard - rofl.

On August 01 2017 06:20 dr.shrinker wrote:
Haven't heard Ret speak badly of BW once when I watched him today, so that ain't entirely true.

On August 01 2017 05:33 Cryoc wrote:

Still leaves me in awe how people complain about not being able to play a half-finished game. Besides this, they already know about the gameplay problems for months, but they either don't care about it or are incompentent in that regard. The whole 1.18 patch was basically a beta for remastered. I am surprised Blizzard officially calls this pre-release a beta. But I doubt anything of substance will improve until mid August.

On August 01 2017 06:14 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
So traitors who switched from BW to SC2 like Mana, ret, TLO have beta and they are just talking on streams like "SC2>bw", "lol bw so sux, units so stupid", "i will do not switch to this game, dont see future for it" seems like
very good advertisement - hahaha, so nice decision by Blizzard - rofl.

On August 01 2017 06:48 SolaR- wrote:


I watched Ret's stream and he said he likes BW better and that he enjoys it more. Stop putting words into people's mouths and making shit up. You are one toxic individual.

On August 01 2017 01:46 NonY wrote:

Actually I agree a lot with this. This was one of the things that annoyed me when I was at my peak, or maybe a bit before my peak, since that courage result and TSL2 obviously got me a lot of instant praise. Anyway, there's quite a bit of lag on recognition in general. The best players from a few years ago (or in this case, almost a decade ago) are treated better than the current best. If I was in charge of invites, I'd definitely go out and find the current best top foreigners and get them all in. Getting in a few "foreigner legends" and some current popular SC2 personalities would be great as well, but you've gotta be most in touch with the guys who are currently the most passionate and invested.

On August 01 2017 07:12 petro1987 wrote:
I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it?

On August 01 2017 06:41 aFF]ZuluNAtion[ wrote:
They wasnt even close to be a pro in BW.

On August 01 2017 06:40 Galtath wrote:


On the contrary, I've heard Ret say that SC:R ladder will be his life now.

On August 01 2017 07:19 blade55555 wrote:


Okay, have any of you people actually watched these sc2 pro's stream it and say it? So far I haven't seen or heard a single one say "Man BW fucking sucks, back to sc2!". It seems you have this thought process that anyone who plays sc2 must think BW is a shit game.

On August 01 2017 07:12 petro1987 wrote:
I really don't see how giving access to closed beta to SC2 personalities who notoriously dislike BW good advertisement. They open up the game, and proceed to trash it and claim that SC2 is much better. What's the point? They are just making sure the SC2 playerbase is kept for personal gains. Wouldn't it be smarter for Blizzard to give access to people that actually enjoy BW and would praise it?

On August 01 2017 07:23 Valikyr wrote:

Lol can you name one of these SC2 pros that trash BW?

On August 01 2017 07:53 Qikz wrote:


Or just make it an open beta so everyone can play! That would be better for everyone rather than beiing upset x person didn't get it over y.

On August 01 2017 07:49 fish_radio wrote:
Nathanias shit talking so much...

On August 01 2017 07:21 petro1987 wrote:


In just 15 minutes, I've seen Nathanias and JimRising do it. And TB on Nathanias chat.

On August 01 2017 07:39 GGzerG wrote:
If anything, give fuckin NonY closed beta access, he got to the finals in a damn Courage tournament in Korea, that accomplishment basically trumps anything else anyone else has done. >_<

On August 01 2017 09:04 XERX wrote:


Idra was on ESTRO and Grrrr won an OSL

On August 01 2017 13:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:

why? he hasn't played the game proper in over a decade

On August 01 2017 18:14 Pr0wler wrote:
Well,both Nathanias and TB have business interest in SC2 so their opinion is not surprising. Also it's not surprising that they got keys, because they are considered "friends and family" at this point. I still wonder how winter got in, but whatever...

Will there be Open Beta for us - the mortal plebs ?

On August 01 2017 19:14 ICanFlyLow wrote:
Whats the reason for giving some clueless sc2 streamers beta access and not those who played the game everyday. Is this really a beta where they want feedback or is it a marketing thing

On August 01 2017 19:04 Garmer wrote:
so i didn't follow, why TLO is saying that the remastered is not good?

On August 01 2017 07:49 fish_radio wrote:
Nathanias shit talking so much...

On August 01 2017 19:24 TBO wrote:


He isn't. He enjoys it a lot. He might have said that lots of people will be disenchanted when they play it themselves because the game is hard and cheese is way harder to defend than in SC2, but that's not saying SC:R isn't good.

On August 01 2017 07:17 BisuDagger wrote:
Didnt get an invite, not sweating it. It will be out soon enough and I can still play the best version right now.

On August 01 2017 20:56 Qikz wrote:


Why does it always have to be like this? Why can it only be one or the other for most people?

Both games are good in their own way. I prefer BW by a lot, but I still appreciate there's a lot of people who like SC2. Both games should be able to co-exist and people shouldn't shit on the other game purely because they don't care about it/tried it and don't like it.

Maybe Nathanias just doesn't like Broodwar, that's his pejorative and unfortunately there's going to be a lot of people like him.

On August 01 2017 21:01 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
i remember watching Nathanias talking lot of shit with the 1.18 PTR,about how bad this game is and blablabla.Why he even tried remastered ? to trash talk it again ? You know what really sux nathanias ? your sc2 soundpack
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 01 2017 20:35 letian wrote:
haha, ret was saying just the contrary yesterday about how slower paced is BW and is more forgiving than SC2 and how it feels better I wouldn't take serious neither TLO nor that Nathanias guy. ret was good at BW, really good so he obviously understands the game far better.

On August 01 2017 22:20 Waxangel wrote:

Hopefully they start investing some effort into community relations with the Western BW scene when SC:R actually gets released.

On August 01 2017 22:17 Ej_ wrote:

FlaSh, ForGG and Jaedong, actually

On August 01 2017 22:31 aQuaSC wrote:

Is there a demand for Blizzard to show that BW is going to be their another point of focus to raise interest? Because as last decade has shown, there is not much of interest in BW outside of Korea. There is interest, but not much. Shouldn't the community grow organically, without any intervention from Blizzard? The West likes flashy games with expensive skins, funny streamers and illegal gambling (not hating on CS, the game itself).

On August 02 2017 00:24 aQuaSC wrote:
By the way, does everyone else has Remastered listed on their battle.net account? Or is it there just to let me log in a pc bang?



I also have a cool story, I turned on different pc that had not updated battle.net launcher and Remastered was there, I could install it and all... but I let it update and now it's gone

On August 02 2017 00:41 aLt)nirvana wrote:
I didn't get the email invite but my account was given access cause Singapore is tiny and you can count the number of people who used to play competitively on two hands.

If you have access you can go to https://us.battle.net/account/management/ and it will look like this.


It looks like the original sc until the moment you login.
After you enter userid/pass the interface will snap change into the SC:R version.

You can play vs normal brood war players, I joined a pub and the guys were beginners.. but the game still took 11mins. SC1 is a lot slower than SC2 I didn't believe it was on "fastest" speed at the start...

On August 01 2017 22:20 Waxangel wrote:


same feeling exactly :[

I mean, it was pretty obvious that their relationship w/ the foreign BW scene was virtually nonexistent for the last 7 years, but it sucks to have it exposed again in such an obvious way. Hopefully they start investing some effort into community relations with the Western BW scene when SC:R actually gets released.

On August 02 2017 04:33 onlystar wrote:
you just cant talk sh*t about the mother of all rts

On August 02 2017 02:01 petro1987 wrote:
It also appears in my bnet account, but when I run the 1.19, it's still the regular BW. I guess this appears to everyone that preordered... When I click in the icon tho, nothings shows (when I click on Anthology, the CDKEY and other information appears).

it's an ancient game and I have too much going on in my life to want to try learning something that might be dead when the hype after a month or two ends.

On August 02 2017 12:32 Carnations wrote:


????

When has broodwar ever been dead?

Are you ok?

On August 02 2017 12:32 Carnations wrote:


????

When has broodwar ever been dead?

Are you ok?

On August 02 2017 12:21 Nathanias wrote:
Hi since a lot of people here take my words on stream far too seriously I'd like to say that there are many things about BW I do not like, however it was still a great game in its time but I definitely prefer SC2 more.

I do not act professional on my stream so please do not delude yourselves into thinking off-hand comments are my final opinion on certain matters either. The Remaster is amazing and all the fun parts of the game are still there better than ever, however yeah there's a lot of stuff like the awful pathing etc that will not only keep me but many others from committing to it long-term.

Edit: I would also like to add that I have watched the more recent BW stuff that is on at watchable hours, and I look forward to following whatever scene pops up with Remaster's release. But yeah it's an ancient game and I have too much going on in my life to want to try learning something that might be dead when the hype after a month or two ends.

On August 02 2017 13:55 Nathanias wrote:

Oh I was talking about on Twitch in the streaming sense, there's no value in just streaming Broodwar as a normal person imo

On August 02 2017 18:57 Carnations wrote:



There's no value in streaming anything as a "normal person" other than self enjoyment.

Watching broodwar for the foreign scene is like watching baseball for little league.