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Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
April 17 2017 19:25 GMT
#281
On April 18 2017 04:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
does anyone remember when the entire KTF team smurfed on wgtour and people were trying to figure out who they were based on replays

that was one of the funnest threads, Nada was like 33-3 with very few games going over 20 minutes, Yellow was like 99-7 or something insane


i remember some similar discussions back when koreans played ICCup, smurfed and most likely acc shared. But not from WGT times, no. ^^

Must have been fun tho.
Broodwar for life!
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28622 Posts
April 17 2017 19:57 GMT
#282
On April 18 2017 04:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
does anyone remember when the entire KTF team smurfed on wgtour and people were trying to figure out who they were based on replays

that was one of the funnest threads, Nada was like 33-3 with very few games going over 20 minutes, Yellow was like 99-7 or something insane


I remember that. There was a real KTF team smurfing, but there was a fake toona SG team also. And I actually think about equally many people thought Froz smurfing as Nada was the real Nada - Froz was 30-0 or whatever with 300+ apm every game, and the rest of us (I was Salmosa!) had 30-1 - ish records as well.
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EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1593 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-17 20:18:27
April 17 2017 20:14 GMT
#283
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/336-wgtour-progamers
Ahhhh the nostalgia! If only the replay pack links weren't dead... I'm sure someone has the replays of Yellow, Nada and TheMarine saved on their dinosaur computer
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 17 2017 20:21 GMT
#284
Found the TL thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/7265-wgtour-koreadreamteam
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
April 17 2017 20:24 GMT
#285
On April 16 2017 20:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Oh! That's another cool memory. RomAD, the official BWChart hotkey savant who knew like every single korean progamer that played on ICCUP because they'd send him his replays and he'd tell them who the smurfs they played against were...

seriously Romad is a legend. I still have no idea how he did that
blabberrrrr
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 17 2017 20:31 GMT
#286
On April 18 2017 05:24 blabber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 20:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Oh! That's another cool memory. RomAD, the official BWChart hotkey savant who knew like every single korean progamer that played on ICCUP because they'd send him his replays and he'd tell them who the smurfs they played against were...

seriously Romad is a legend. I still have no idea how he did that


it's pretty easy, i proved an SC2 NA smurf was Mvp and no one believed me, then he used the account a few months later in a tournament
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
April 17 2017 20:32 GMT
#287
On April 18 2017 05:21 Hot_Bid wrote:
Found the TL thread
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/7265-wgtour-koreadreamteam

It's so endearing to see just how excited everyone got when The Korean Players showed up on our servers to say hello.
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GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1836 Posts
April 17 2017 20:50 GMT
#288
On April 18 2017 05:31 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2017 05:24 blabber wrote:
On April 16 2017 20:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Oh! That's another cool memory. RomAD, the official BWChart hotkey savant who knew like every single korean progamer that played on ICCUP because they'd send him his replays and he'd tell them who the smurfs they played against were...

seriously Romad is a legend. I still have no idea how he did that


it's pretty easy, i proved an SC2 NA smurf was Mvp and no one believed me, then he used the account a few months later in a tournament


Not trying to put down what you did but Romad knew almost every pro's hotkey signatures it seemed. You could post a replay on the "iCCup who is who" topic of you vs. some high level Korean, and he'd be able to just glance at the BWChart of the replay and tell you who you played assuming it was a progamer. It was crazy how good he was at it
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28622 Posts
April 17 2017 21:26 GMT
#289
Yeah romad's hotkey signature recognition bordered on savant-level. Now, having replays of one player using two different nicknames and comparing them and seeing that hey, these are the same players, that's pretty easy. It's not easy to seemingly have 500 of those signatures memorized.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
April 17 2017 21:44 GMT
#290
On April 18 2017 05:50 GoShox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2017 05:31 jalstar wrote:
On April 18 2017 05:24 blabber wrote:
On April 16 2017 20:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:

Oh! That's another cool memory. RomAD, the official BWChart hotkey savant who knew like every single korean progamer that played on ICCUP because they'd send him his replays and he'd tell them who the smurfs they played against were...

seriously Romad is a legend. I still have no idea how he did that


it's pretty easy, i proved an SC2 NA smurf was Mvp and no one believed me, then he used the account a few months later in a tournament


Not trying to put down what you did but Romad knew almost every pro's hotkey signatures it seemed. You could post a replay on the "iCCup who is who" topic of you vs. some high level Korean, and he'd be able to just glance at the BWChart of the replay and tell you who you played assuming it was a progamer. It was crazy how good he was at it


Yeah I didn't have anything memorized, just compared it to existing reps. Romad could apparently look at it and know.
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9997 Posts
April 17 2017 21:47 GMT
#291
Wasn't NaDa SkyInTheSea and wasn't he hacking? :D
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28622 Posts
April 17 2017 22:02 GMT
#292
Nada was skyinthesea. I do actually vaguely recollect something about some of the smurfing koreans being caught hacking but I'm not certain enough to confirm nada was one of them.

He also lost against Liquid`Venice during that wgtour run, which I genuinely believe is the only time progamer Nada ever lost against a player with less than a third of his apm.
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Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-17 23:17:29
April 17 2017 23:06 GMT
#293
I'm really excited for a resurgence of BW. I was just getting into my stride in BW (only D+) when SC2 beta hit and I swapped. SC2 always felt flawed though, and I'd blamed Deathballs for it. What Day9 goes over in this clip expands on that, and does a good job explaining why SC2 feels as hollow as it does to me.

BW always felt like it let you play a lot more how you wanted to, letting your skills show through, whichever area of the game they're in.
Not having played for years, and with a tonne of SC2 bad habits, I'm expecting to get absolutely thrashed for a while, but I'm looking forward to it.
NET
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States703 Posts
April 17 2017 23:16 GMT
#294
Just as a hardcore-casual sc player coming from bw and then to sc2, I am pretty excited about Day9's return. Coming back to bw is beautiful thing. I missed the wonky pathing, the demanding mechanics, the small army positional skirmishes, and the actual transitions from early, to mid, to late game. All of the unique micro tricks and the godly macro and macro army control of the top Koreans. Its extremely nostalgic and I am very excited and can't wait to play SC Remastered.

I remember the transition from bw to sc2 and Day9 was a huge part of that history including countless others. Much respect to him and all the other content creators that have dedicated their lives and lively-hoods to the best game on Earth. Its what keeps it exciting and fun to watch as well as to play. I am sure day9 can definitely grab a bunch of new players from other games such as dota2 and other games he plays to the scr scene. Its not a bad thing.

The divided comments early in this thread is just a testament to how powerful this game is and how passionate people can get over an old school rts. I will for one watch all of the hardcore bw/sc2 streamers and players if and when they make a transition to scr but at the same time I will continue to watch sc2 streamers that I enjoy watching from a personality perspective.

I am most excited about Bisu and friends grabbing a hold of a copy of scr and doing what they do best.

Here's to another 20 years.
"Dark Templar are the saviors of the Protoss Race." -Artosis
Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
April 17 2017 23:36 GMT
#295
Broodwar is that Jazz teacher from Whiplash
While Sc2 is the kind and supportive (but empty) Father

Both are fine and terrible in their own ways.
https://cinesnipe.com
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
April 17 2017 23:59 GMT
#296
On April 18 2017 08:36 Broodwar4lyf wrote:
Broodwar is that Jazz teacher from Whiplash
While Sc2 is the kind and supportive (but empty) Father

Both are fine and terrible in their own ways.

I don't know if I'd really invite comparisons between BW and a physically and psychologically abusive maniac, but okay. People being afraid of BW is one of it's biggest flaws right now
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
April 18 2017 00:27 GMT
#297
On April 16 2017 02:58 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2017 15:33 ninazerg wrote:
I like how he's like "StarCraft is the best game ever!", "I've been playing it since 5th grade!", "I can't wait for Brood War to come out!"

...dude, you left for SC2.

he "left" for SC2? games aren't a monogamous relationship, you can play and watch multiple and have ebbs and flows of which ones you play more. Day9 especially can't "stay faithful" (lmao) to Brood War because you simply can't make a living doing it outside Korea. You expect him to beg for food or something because of a misguided notion to never touch another game again?

imagine how stupid this mentality would be when applied to literally any other interest or hobby.

“I have not watched any True Blood because I am a loyal Game of Thrones fan,” said one StarCraft player. “Though maybe I can watch both shows and not Mad Men because I’m an HBO fan and not an AMC fan. Or maybe I can watch all of them and not The Avengers Age of Ultron because I’m a TV fan. Wait maybe I can watch all of that and not read books because I’m a digital media fan. Or maybe I can do all of that but not listen to music because I am a fan of things I see with my eyes. I have decided to watch all shows with the sound off because I am very loyal to my sense of sight.”


Says the Dota 2 sellout.
I mean the Smash sellout.
I mean the Mafia sellout.
I mean...

Good points. FACTS!
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36374 Posts
April 18 2017 00:32 GMT
#298
On April 18 2017 09:27 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2017 02:58 Hot_Bid wrote:
On April 15 2017 15:33 ninazerg wrote:
I like how he's like "StarCraft is the best game ever!", "I've been playing it since 5th grade!", "I can't wait for Brood War to come out!"

...dude, you left for SC2.

he "left" for SC2? games aren't a monogamous relationship, you can play and watch multiple and have ebbs and flows of which ones you play more. Day9 especially can't "stay faithful" (lmao) to Brood War because you simply can't make a living doing it outside Korea. You expect him to beg for food or something because of a misguided notion to never touch another game again?

imagine how stupid this mentality would be when applied to literally any other interest or hobby.

“I have not watched any True Blood because I am a loyal Game of Thrones fan,” said one StarCraft player. “Though maybe I can watch both shows and not Mad Men because I’m an HBO fan and not an AMC fan. Or maybe I can watch all of them and not The Avengers Age of Ultron because I’m a TV fan. Wait maybe I can watch all of that and not read books because I’m a digital media fan. Or maybe I can do all of that but not listen to music because I am a fan of things I see with my eyes. I have decided to watch all shows with the sound off because I am very loyal to my sense of sight.”


Says the Dota 2 sellout.
I mean the Smash sellout.
I mean the Mafia sellout.
I mean...

Good points. FACTS!

im coming back for the cash grab XD
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50107 Posts
April 18 2017 02:17 GMT
#299
wow scummy as hell

##Vote: Hot_Bid
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
April 18 2017 03:03 GMT
#300
Wait the Dota 2 Hot Bid and Starcraft 2 Hot Bid are the same?

Always thought the Dota 2 Hot Bid was shorter.
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