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[BW][Afreeca] Top 5 Players in the month of Dec. - Page 2

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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-01 10:39:54
January 01 2017 10:37 GMT
#21
On January 01 2017 14:28 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2017 14:25 IntoTheEmo wrote:
On January 01 2017 12:41 classicyellow83 wrote:
Jaedong played 247 sponsored games! My only disappointment is that Jaedong chose not to play Flash.

Jaedong:"I'll play Flash when I dominate all other terrans"


I love his mentality. FvJ is supposed to be special like that. I'd want to see them at their full strength too, before they go at it.

Flash seems to agree with him.
"I want to play him so badly. But, it's understandable. People have high expectations when it comes to LeeSsangRok."


So good to see the apparent camaraderie between them is still there after all these years since their dual interview that TL had translated back then.

Thanks for the additional insights btw. I've only been observing quietly, but you and Letmelose have been tearing it up on the forums lately with all these extra tidbits.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 01 2017 10:56 GMT
#22
On January 01 2017 18:53 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2017 17:47 FlaShFTW wrote:
Lets go flash. He needs to get back on his tvz though whats up with that?

What's wrong with having the best TvZ ?


ZvT I think were always a little bit more volatile, which explains the lower winrate
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 01 2017 11:18 GMT
#23
Wow, I wish Last were able to bring what he has on the ladder to the tournaments
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
January 01 2017 12:09 GMT
#24
On January 01 2017 16:54 jalstar wrote:
Looks like if you're not first...

you're Last.

Boohhhh.
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
January 01 2017 12:17 GMT
#25
Interesting statistics here. I think were gonna see an even more godlike flash in 2017....
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
January 01 2017 13:29 GMT
#26
I know it's often not the most exciting matchup, but that they're all pretty much avoiding mirrors is kind of interesting
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
January 01 2017 14:08 GMT
#27
I started looking more closely at BW when day[9] did the pre-beta dailies for SC2. I started paying attention only at the end of a great FvJ period. I have never been and I don't think I'll ever be an expert [even watcher] of the damn game but I'll tell you one thing.

It's really really cool to have this again.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
January 01 2017 14:18 GMT
#28
yeah i respect the both of them for putting off the FvJ until the time is right, unless of course the god of rng dictates they play each other in tournaments. no point padding the stats with games that are not 100%.
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 01 2017 14:21 GMT
#29
Somebody also posted sometimes how many baloons the top streamers got per month, is that still updated (i guess it came from korean forums) or did people stop analyzing that?
Seems interesting to me as well, thanks for the winrates though!
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4178 Posts
January 01 2017 16:24 GMT
#30
Thanks classicyellow, keep them coming!
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4178 Posts
January 01 2017 16:31 GMT
#31
On January 01 2017 17:47 FlaShFTW wrote:
Lets go flash. He needs to get back on his tvz though whats up with that?


Yeah it was 70-80% a few months ago not sure why it dropped off. Maybe the Zergs are getting better or he's focusing more on TvP instead. Anyway it's still a very good winrate
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 01 2017 17:14 GMT
#32
On January 01 2017 22:29 sixfour wrote:
I know it's often not the most exciting matchup, but that they're all pretty much avoiding mirrors is kind of interesting

They are not avoiding mirrors. People just don't like to sponsor mirror matches.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 01 2017 17:36 GMT
#33
On January 01 2017 23:21 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Somebody also posted sometimes how many baloons the top streamers got per month, is that still updated (i guess it came from korean forums) or did people stop analyzing that?
Seems interesting to me as well, thanks for the winrates though!

That was me also. Most of the players are in decline due to there being so many BW BJs now. But, Flash still in incline. Sea got buff from Terror and he's getting a lot. He received more than Flash this month but not as much as Flash's peak. Bisu declined a lot(He's hasn't been streaming consistently. Shuttle is still one of the top paid BW BJs. Many people who joined moo. claim that their increased a lot after joining moo.clan (Britney buff). Terror, Britney, Flash, Bisu, Shuttle, and Sea has been and will be making more money than everyone else. Hero is just slightly below them. I predict Jaedong will join with the top receivers soon.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
January 01 2017 18:44 GMT
#34
Jaedong should play FlaSh and do it oftenly. IMO he will fair better vs him than vs Last.
Enjoy the game
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
January 01 2017 18:49 GMT
#35
On January 02 2017 03:44 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Jaedong should play FlaSh and do it oftenly. IMO he will fair better vs him than vs Last.

What is your reasoning behind this?

I think there is a clear reason why Jaedong doesn't play Flash in sponsored matches, he doesn't want to tarnish the sanctity of FvJ, but in terms of his improvement, it might be smart to do it. If I were JD I'd ask him to crank out a few practice sessions of stream if he was willing.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
January 01 2017 19:50 GMT
#36
I think they should play each other. Last is doing pretty good in tvz and if Jaedong wants to completely dominate in an unfavoured matchup all terrans with Last included who is with with 70% win rate vs z and doing really well vs players of the like of jaedong, effort, zero, hero, then completely not playing FlaSh is actual possibility that seems kind of pointless to do. I think they should play and do it often.
Enjoy the game
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
January 01 2017 20:06 GMT
#37
Thanks for gathering the data classicyellow!

You've contributed a great deal to the BW forums recently and it's appreciated

Larvas stats are as often impressive but his offline results still leave so much to be desired, he needs to be in that atmosphere more often so he can get over his nerves imho


Learn from the mistakes of others. You can't live long enough to make them all yourself.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1718 Posts
January 01 2017 20:18 GMT
#38
Flash 8-7
Bisu 9-7
Last 2-0

Effort too strong
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
January 01 2017 20:19 GMT
#39
On January 02 2017 05:06 DarkNetHunter wrote:
Thanks for gathering the data classicyellow!

You've contributed a great deal to the BW forums recently and it's appreciated

Larvas stats are as often impressive but his offline results still leave so much to be desired, he needs to be in that atmosphere more often so he can get over his nerves imho



NP! He gets ways too nervous during offline matches. Online, He better than most.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
January 01 2017 20:44 GMT
#40
Good thing Effort and Last are out of the tournament. Free trophy for God.
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