EPT[BW][Afreeca] Top 5 Players in the month of Dec. - Page 4
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
On January 04 2017 18:18 Lunaticman wrote: Just to keep the speculation going, what would have been the zerg answer for the heavy mech switch favored by terran? maybe going back to "cheesy" five pools and all in ling plays to force them back to bio play? do you mean the bio open into late mech switch by "the heavy mech switch"? 5 pool and all in lings are very easy to defend against with terran prevented by strong scvs, firebats and vultures alongside good walls available at various places of the main/natural on modern maps. Zerg allins vs T are usually very easily scouted so on most occasions are extremely hard to pull off. | ||
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kogeT
Poland2041 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12023 Posts
Of course it's because he's a boss from SKT, but everyone always said he was boring, but I thought he was great! | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
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Piste
6180 Posts
On January 01 2017 13:44 BigFan wrote: It's understandable imo. Flash is still on another level to Jaedong atm. It's essentially an exercise in futility. If they do meet in the semifinals, it's going to be 3-0 for Flash most likely. Dont you think playing Flash would help JD to see his flaws? | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6176 Posts
On January 04 2017 22:19 Piste wrote: Dont you think playing Flash would help JD to see his flaws? he is at 50% winrate vs Terran, he don't need flash to see is flaws. | ||
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ortseam
996 Posts
On January 04 2017 18:18 Lunaticman wrote: Just to keep the speculation going, what would have been the zerg answer for the heavy mech switch favored by terran? maybe going back to "cheesy" five pools and all in ling plays to force them back to bio play? EDIT: Maybe going back to something like 3 hatch-muta play? That would force goliaths and keep the army back and prevent expansion play. Which would make it possible to play "refuge" zerg with 3 starting positions? I think you're misunderstanding something here. Terran transitions into mech from bio, meaning the ling all-ins will be dealt with bio since Terran isn't switching to mech yet. 3 hatch muta is standard zerg play and Terrans are comfortable against it with an array of their own bio builds (3 rax tech, 4/5rax +1, fast vessels etc). The mech switch comes as a response to the common 3->4 gas hive which comes into play significantly later. | ||
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LRM)TechnicS
Bulgaria1565 Posts
On January 04 2017 18:50 kogeT wrote: I think the only 2 ways zergs can really adapt going forward is to either skip lurkers and go for some kind of tactical play with muta/ling and transition into guard or ultra/ling/defiler OR to skip muta and go into heavy defensive lurker play to tech up and macro quickly. Terrans seemed to develope too good counter vs anything that emerges from standard 3 hath muta play into lurker into hive into 3base/4base. I don't know, man. Both mutas and lurkers are pretty much used in 95%+ of the games on modern maps. I understand your idea, it might be good on paper, but I will be surprised to see it working in high level korean ZvT. | ||
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SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
On January 04 2017 18:50 kogeT wrote: I think the only 2 ways zergs can really adapt going forward is to either skip lurkers and go for some kind of tactical play with muta/ling and transition into guard or ultra/ling/defiler OR to skip muta and go into heavy defensive lurker play to tech up and macro quickly. Terrans seemed to develope too good counter vs anything that emerges from standard 3 hath muta play into lurker into hive into 3base/4base. Flash and other terrans already solved the muta into ultra builds a long time ago though and it's why you never really see it anymore. (unless it's like force[name] who only does that build zvt) It's probably one of the easier builds for terran progamers to deal with. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5599 Posts
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JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
On January 04 2017 18:34 LRM)TechnicS wrote: Letmelose, thank you for your valuable insights. Please do share those on any occasion. I am eating all those up like a fresh bread lol. Is it just me lol? It is definitely not just you. I'm sure there are other lurkers out there (like me) that enjoy this stuff. Honestly posts like Letmelose's are what bring me back to check these threads. They are nuggets! | ||
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SkrollK
France580 Posts
Keep that coming Letmelose, i'm reading those as if my life depended of it ! TY  | ||
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KatjaKean
Hungary59 Posts
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United States10328 Posts
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