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AdelSC123
Profile Joined March 2010
France362 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-27 18:50:26
December 27 2016 18:39 GMT
#41
Unless Bisu engage his slump mode I cant see Sea getting out victorious in a BO5 against Bisu, if Bisu isnt in slump mode I'm expecting this to be (trigger warning) total rape but as a Bisu fan I can't erase the memory of Bisu slumps. 87.5-12.5 Bisu wins.

I dont think people are giving Best enough credit, I can see him take out hero. Id rather have a Bisu vs Hero semi but I really have no idea who will advance here. 55-45 Hero wins.

Poor Mang, but Im pretty sure I would be saying the same thing if he was matched with anyone else I feel like he is a class behind every player in the RO8. 90-10 Flash wins

I'll to give this to JD, I feel like JD's current skills might be overrated but I don't see much fire inside Stork right now and you definitely need that to beat JD. If Stork can find a way to ignite the fire inside him then I'll give it to him as JD doesn't look as spotless as he should currently. 70-30 JD wins.

I expect the Finals to be Bisu vs Flash, they are both scary in all matchups. Bisu doesnt have a bad record against Flash and when Bisu is at his best I believe that he is better than Flash but Flash is way more consistent so I'm really excited if this ends up being the finals.
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-27 18:49:26
December 27 2016 18:41 GMT
#42
ASL brackets > Blizzcon SC2 brackets (where they matched two ONLY terrans who got into tournament against each other lul)

And also what's up with ppl with 3 and 9 posting history dictating here ppl who have been posting forever which words to use or not? In other hand I agree just because none of these guys are weak, none of them gonna get destroyed if they got this far. Even if someone gonna lose 0-3 at finals this doesn't mean he got raped. If Last advanced and met Flash would it be appropriate saying that Last gonna rape Flash again like last time? Think about it.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Marl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States694 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-29 08:11:09
December 27 2016 18:47 GMT
#43
User was warned for this post
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
December 27 2016 18:48 GMT
#44
Haha, like the most awesome brackets ever! Although it would have been even better had Stork and Jaedong had another year of playing BW.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
onlystar
Profile Joined March 2015
United States971 Posts
December 27 2016 19:51 GMT
#45
Bisu vs Flash finals its turning out an amazing post kespa rivarly
KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
December 27 2016 20:06 GMT
#46
holy shit is this a tournament or what
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gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
December 27 2016 20:13 GMT
#47
As far as I can tell, there has only ever been one other standard individual league with all of TBLS in the Ro8. That was Bacchus OSL 2008, where Flash famously defeated all three of the other members to take first place. The first game of the quarterfinals took place on February 15, 2008--nearly nine years ago.

Including less prominent leagues, this phenomenon occurred most recently during WCG Korea 2009. There, the top three were Bisu, Stork, and Jaedong. (Flash lost to Bisu in the Ro8.) It also happened in the GomTV Star Invitational, where Flash's victory hinted at the eventual outcome of Bacchus '08.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
December 27 2016 20:19 GMT
#48
damn that is a sexy looking bracket
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TAKK.borg
Profile Joined December 2013
Croatia93 Posts
December 27 2016 20:25 GMT
#49
Are map already picked? Cant see anything on liquipedia.
I hope for more Benzene action, such a good map, I cant stop playing it!
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
December 27 2016 20:26 GMT
#50
Wow, people seriously believe that Bisu can defeat Flash in a bo5?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10230 Posts
December 27 2016 20:29 GMT
#51
The idea of best beating hero is so absurd in a bo5. Please go look at their winrates both in post kespa and kespa. Its not even close. Best will be fortunate to take one game off hero. Beating a rusty af jaedong in a bo1 twice doesnt tell me his pvz has improved at all.
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1012 Posts
December 27 2016 20:33 GMT
#52
This ASL has been so much better than last season, season 1 felt more like an appetizer. I'm surprised by the production quality and I'm loving the choice of music, it really gives me vibes of the former OSL/MSLs. The crowd in the RO16 has also been impressive and I can't wait to see the future of BW, looks like the revival is for real and I'm hoping others will join in Afreeca so that perhaps there will be two starleagues again.
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-27 20:56:34
December 27 2016 20:52 GMT
#53
Bisu
Hero
Flash
Stork

Bisu
Stork

Stork

Disappointed we didn't get a TvZ. I know it would have meant a PvP, but that's fine as we would have gotten all 3 non-mirror matches if we swapped Guemchi and Hero. Ah well. We could get a TvZ if Sea beats Bisu or Jaedong beats Stork.

Yes, I think that Flash > Guemchi and Hero > Best are nearly sure things. The other 2 are closer, imo.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
December 27 2016 20:57 GMT
#54
On December 27 2016 23:52 endy wrote:
I was hoping for a TBLS Ro4.
But we can't really complain, all matchups are pretty good, no hero vs JD ZvZ or other dumb mirrors.

Hype Hype Hype

Yep, I can agree with this.

On December 28 2016 03:18 WGT-Baal wrote:
Good i m off on Jan 3rd! Great draw!

Lucky bastard.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 27 2016 21:01 GMT
#55
My boy flash with an easy road to the finals, haha ! I hope Best will show us the same level of pvz he did against jaedong. Same for sea he showed good tvp !
I don't think stork has any chance at all, if he somehow wins he will get destroyed by flash.

Prediction :
Bisu
hero
flash
jaedong

Flash
Bisu

Flash
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-27 21:35:24
December 27 2016 21:02 GMT
#56
On December 28 2016 05:13 gngfn wrote:
As far as I can tell, there has only ever been one other standard individual league with all of TBLS in the Ro8. That was Bacchus OSL 2008, where Flash famously defeated all three of the other members to take first place. The first game of the quarterfinals took place on February 15, 2008--nearly nine years ago.

Including less prominent leagues, this phenomenon occurred most recently during WCG Korea 2009. There, the top three were Bisu, Stork, and Jaedong. (Flash lost to Bisu in the Ro8.) It also happened in the GomTV Star Invitational, where Flash's victory hinted at the eventual outcome of Bacchus '08.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/EVER2007_OSL
and
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2008_Bacchus_OSL

Were the only 2 ever. They also had 3/4 TBLS make the top 4, and ended as one would expect (Stork silver both).

2008 Bachhus OSL Ro8 also contains 5 of the players in ASL Season 2 Ro8! So does http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2009_Batoo_OSL !

Seriously, this top 8 is as good as any ever, even though it may be questionable how far from peak form some of them are, these could have fit in anywhere from 2007-2012 Pro BW. Only Guemchi never making a Ro8 in pro-BW really stands out.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 27 2016 21:30 GMT
#57
I feel like Jaedong can beat Stork and got a nice draw. Unfortunately, no matter how much i wish was the case, I know that Jaedong still isn't in top form and hasn't had as much time as Flash to get back into it, so if they both do meet in the semifinals, I won't be surprised for a 3-0 flash .

Hoping Jaedong does beat Stork and somehow surprises in the semi finals though.
When I think of something else, something will go here
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
December 27 2016 21:33 GMT
#58
On December 28 2016 06:02 Crisium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2016 05:13 gngfn wrote:
As far as I can tell, there has only ever been one other standard individual league with all of TBLS in the Ro8. That was Bacchus OSL 2008, where Flash famously defeated all three of the other members to take first place. The first game of the quarterfinals took place on February 15, 2008--nearly nine years ago.

Including less prominent leagues, this phenomenon occurred most recently during WCG Korea 2009. There, the top three were Bisu, Stork, and Jaedong. (Flash lost to Bisu in the Ro8.) It also happened in the GomTV Star Invitational, where Flash's victory hinted at the eventual outcome of Bacchus '08.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/EVER2007_OSL
and
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2008_Bacchus_OSL

Were the only 2 ever. They also had 3/4 TBLS make the top 4, and ended as one would expect (Stork silver both).

2008 Bachhus OSL Ro8 also contains 5 of the players in ASL Season 2 Ro8! So does http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2009_Batoo_OSL !

Seriously, this top 8 is as good as any ever, even though it may be questionable how far from peak form some of them are, these could have fit in anywhere from 2007-2012 Pro BW. Only Guemchi never making a Ro8 in pro-BW really stands out (or Bisu never making a Ro8 after early 2009 ).


Given that JD and Bisu already won against Stork with a Ro8 TBLS, it could only mean that Bisu vs Stork will be the final, with Bisu being the winner and Stork getting silver.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Improvement
Profile Joined March 2003
203 Posts
December 28 2016 00:21 GMT
#59
Wow, just wow. This tournament is so great.

My predictions:

Bisu vs Sea (65/35)
Hero vs Best (75/25)

Flash vs Guemchi (90/10) Poor Guemchi, going to get raped for sure :/
Jaedong vs Stork (70/30)

Hoping for Bisu vs Flash finals. But anything would be great tbh.
Hmm
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
December 28 2016 01:28 GMT
#60
Best vs Flash finals
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