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KT Giga Showmatch: Jaedong, Flash, Bisu, Stork! - Page 27

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Link for Tastosis - http://afreeca.tv/36872425
Link for Sayle - http://afreeca.tv/36882510
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 19 2016 18:21 GMT
#521
Games weren't too bad, Stork vs Flash and first game of JD vs Bisu were the definite highlights imo. Hopefully they all keep practicing and qualify for ASL2 making it to the later stages. The hype would be out of this world! Sayle was also on point with his casting, great stuff as usual Sayle. Thanks for the great cast!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-19 18:43:22
November 19 2016 18:42 GMT
#522
I just finished watching it, very entertaining games...
Bisu vs Flash had me screaming at the edge of my chair for as long as that contain/gg move flash almost get done at Bisu's door. JD vs Bisu's 1st game was pretty awesome too, I'm very happy to see the Tyrant getting in shape and beeing able to get a win from one of the scariest oponents around.
Unlike some stupid/hate comments suggested, I did enjoyed Artosis & Tasteless cast pretty much... Overall, I say it's really a good time for BW's lovers to be around, and to have well mannered, well intentioned and trully interested people putting their time and energy and showing their love for something I love too just suits me perfectly.
Long live BW, TBLS Hwaiting, have a good day you all
Standard Queens
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
November 19 2016 19:03 GMT
#523
Can't wait for ASL. BW 2017 is gonna be fantastic. It just keeps getting better and better.
T P Z sagi
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
November 19 2016 19:20 GMT
#524
On November 19 2016 20:56 Sayle wrote:
Thanks everyone for tuning in! And a huge thanks to Afreeca for reaching out and helping me do this stream. The global Afreeca site actually looks and works really well so I'd recommend everyone give it a try. I'll probably dual stream on Afreeca and Twitch going forward.

It was a great cast. So refreshing. You still have it in you Sayle.

Can we expect more commentary from you in the future? Perhaps you could cast together with somebody if a solo cast is too much of a burden for you.
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
November 19 2016 19:52 GMT
#525
disappointed we didn't get flash vs jd, but bisu vs jd game 1 made up for that
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
November 19 2016 19:54 GMT
#526
What's the game Artosis mentionned where Stork lost a shuttle full of hts on a single turret and still won?
Calendaraka Foxhan
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-19 21:29:41
November 19 2016 21:28 GMT
#527
Oh man, talk about a 1000th post of shame, I can't believe I managed to sleep through the live broadcast even though it was during primetime for Singapore...

Glad I sat through the entire VOD. I'll echo the common opinion here that Bisu vs Flash and Bisu vs Jaedong game 1 were the standout games. I was exceptionally happy with the plays they managed to pull off - Jaedong's especially, was not expecting Ling micro of that caliber yet - the sheer awe that I hadn't felt for a long time, where I couldn't help but mutter to myself in their presence, was a great feeling to have.

Considering the potential diversity of their audience, commentary was stellar. Tastosis wasn't pandering to try and cater to SC2 fans either for the most part; they clearly knew what these games meant to the BW crowd and casted accordingly. I felt that they hit most of the right points (they even managed a pandabearguy throwback on Destination, which is what I started watching BW with - GOMTV Classic), with the knowledge they dropped (obviously not to the degree of us TL nerds, but it was a huge improvement over ASL casts), and were able to present TBLS in a manner they deserved, all while emanating their BW passion for all to see. All the credit needs to be given.

Production was on point too. The classic zoom in into the start of the game was there as expected. And after the games were played and TBLS were lined up and giving the post-match interviews, they were playing Black Parade (a song they played a lot in old KeSPA tournaments and highlight vids), and the whole "we'll carry on" thing added so much to the atmosphere. Those glorious bastards in the back still have their impeccable music selection sense it seems.

Ahh what an amazing day to be a BW fan.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8587 Posts
November 19 2016 21:49 GMT
#528
On November 20 2016 01:44 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2016 01:20 LML wrote:
Please, they claimed that the Shield upgrade for Protoss increases the shield's regeneration rate in ASL. That's not even close to being an expert. Also many strategies they claimed as new were already being played 5 years ago. It's just new to them because they stopped doing BW when SC2 came out.

Sure, there's a difference between current knowledge, but that's not really the point here. You're absolutely right that they're not up to par with how the game is played in the present, but that doesn't make them not understand the game any longer.
They've been involved in the BW scene for a long time and going back to it simply refreshes everything. Even if they lag behind, it's not like they're completely out of the loop by seeing how the current meta is like. I think they can analyse how something works when it's played in a different way.


Yeah but basic things like probe+zealot hits for a drone kill should be basic knowledge. How did they forget that? I dunno, I liked Artosis a lot because of his analytical style but he has to step it up with his knowledge again or he lost his trademark.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1772 Posts
November 19 2016 21:58 GMT
#529
On November 20 2016 03:21 BigFan wrote:
Games weren't too bad, Stork vs Flash and first game of JD vs Bisu were the definite highlights imo. Hopefully they all keep practicing and qualify for ASL2 making it to the later stages. The hype would be out of this world! Sayle was also on point with his casting, great stuff as usual Sayle. Thanks for the great cast!


Stork vs FlaSh was just a perfect display of how shitty Destination is for PvT. FlaSh did a perfect job of abusing the map for an easy win.
LML
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
November 19 2016 23:40 GMT
#530
On November 19 2016 21:38 HaN- wrote:
Artosis : "There's a lot of stuff we aren't allowed to tell you is coming yet, but 2017 is going to be a great year for Brood War"

What do you think this can mean ?


link and which minute/second to watch for please?
Enjoy the game
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
November 19 2016 23:41 GMT
#531
On November 20 2016 08:40 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 21:38 HaN- wrote:
Artosis : "There's a lot of stuff we aren't allowed to tell you is coming yet, but 2017 is going to be a great year for Brood War"

What do you think this can mean ?


link and which minute/second to watch for please?

don't bother, this is how stupid rumors like BW hd get started
TentatvePnda
Profile Joined November 2016
4 Posts
November 19 2016 23:50 GMT
#532
Are there any VODs I could get a hold of?
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-20 01:00:39
November 20 2016 01:00 GMT
#533
On November 19 2016 21:23 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 21:19 Filco wrote:
Can anyone find a link to archives? VODs? I just missed it this morning TT_TT.



i gotchu

HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
November 20 2016 01:02 GMT
#534
On November 20 2016 08:40 LRM)TechnicS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 21:38 HaN- wrote:
Artosis : "There's a lot of stuff we aren't allowed to tell you is coming yet, but 2017 is going to be a great year for Brood War"

What do you think this can mean ?


link and which minute/second to watch for please?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iMWSv3lvk&feature=youtu.be&t=3h2m34s
Calendaraka Foxhan
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
November 20 2016 04:17 GMT
#535
The entire time I'm watching this all I could think about was, it's the end of 2016 and I'm able to watch TBLS play in a BW tournament. I had to pinch myself several times to make sure it was real. I couldn't be happier. It's starting to feel like 2009 all over again.
STX Fighting!
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
November 20 2016 04:39 GMT
#536
On November 20 2016 06:28 IntoTheEmo wrote:
they were playing Black Parade (a song they played a lot in old KeSPA tournaments and highlight vids)


OK nice, now imagine when they play THIS... I'm wating for that moment
Standard Queens
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
November 20 2016 06:21 GMT
#537
On November 20 2016 10:00 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 21:23 Probe1 wrote:
On November 19 2016 21:19 Filco wrote:
Can anyone find a link to archives? VODs? I just missed it this morning TT_TT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2iMWSv3lvk

i gotchu


Can we have one without English commentary please -_-; Korean VOD
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
November 20 2016 07:59 GMT
#538
pretty sure black parade is like Bisu's theme
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
November 20 2016 09:28 GMT
#539
Lol yeah they love Galneryus at PL huh.

On November 20 2016 16:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:
pretty sure black parade is like Bisu's theme


Yeah? I wasn't around when that was a thing then. Must've heard it through VODs. Might need to pursue that music thread again.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 20 2016 09:35 GMT
#540
On November 19 2016 22:25 Uldridge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2016 21:10 Cele wrote:
nice cast by Tastosis. But they're trying to sell the point that they are super duper experts in the game and the scene a bit to hard when they're not.

+ Show Spoiler +
I mean every average guy still playing the game prolly

- doesn't have to ask himself how many zeal+probe hit it takes to kill a drone with +0/+1
- is not surprised how good JD is; we know which accounts he plays on fish
- doesn't call the citadel of Adun twilight council by mistake


Again, i like the casts but stop acting like you know everything and are such high level experts etc when you're just not.

I don't get this sentiment.. They catered more to the people that aren't the average guy you mentioned (people flowing over from SCII).
They are super duper experts because they were the original english casters for big tournaments like GOM. And Artosis was a pretty high level BW player. You probably know this, but I think your post is pretty condescending towards them and I won't eat it up.


i think you're taking this a little personal. I'm not condescending when i say i liked the cast and i simply mentioned their self-presentation of being an expert doesn't match certain gaps in their ingame knowledge.

Yeah im aware- im fact i loved to watch GOM TV Classic Series with Tasteless+Littlesusie and Superdanielman later. Artosis never casted that, but he he did a lot of awesome things.

I think i simply have high expectations towards the premier casters of this game. Tastosis casts used to entertain and educate me on the highest level and i'd like to have that back. That would require them to get into touch with the metagame, developments in the game and the competitive scene a bit more than they currently are.

Asking for that seems like a reasonable request to me and no "heresy" towards the godstatus of Tastosis, as you seem to perceive it.

By the way: Yeah i recall Artosis as a good foreigner, here's a list of his ahcievements achievementst How that makes my point being condescending, is beyond me tho. Care to elaborate?
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