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prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
July 25 2016 05:55 GMT
#221
"hydra" is old news, that account hasn't signed on for a week Tried a /finger and "hydra", "c-jem" and "jiko" all have different IPs, which is peculiar...

Many Ygosu folks seem to be be convinced "jiko" is the one, fawning over his ZvT micro Looks like whoever signed up for the username did so in November 2015

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/333804
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/333873
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 25 2016 06:40 GMT
#222
Jiko= Jaedong In KOrea
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
SonnyC
Profile Joined May 2016
Netherlands17 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 07:18:42
July 25 2016 07:17 GMT
#223
On July 25 2016 14:55 prech wrote:
"hydra" is old news, that account hasn't signed on for a week Tried a /finger and "hydra", "c-jem" and "jiko" all have different IPs, which is peculiar...

Many Ygosu folks seem to be be convinced "jiko" is the one, fawning over his ZvT micro Looks like whoever signed up for the username did so in November 2015

http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/333804
http://www.ygosu.com/community/st/333873


Bisu is playing this Hydra as we speak. Bisu won 2 games in a row, but I just tuned in on the stream so I don't know how long they've been playing..

Who is this Hydra?
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 25 2016 07:54 GMT
#224
Haha, I see. Well maybe this "hydra" account is a sort-of community account, lol?
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 25 2016 11:27 GMT
#225
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
July 25 2016 11:34 GMT
#226
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
July 25 2016 11:39 GMT
#227
On July 25 2016 20:34 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?

On official matches Bisu has the better head to head. But Bisu once told a story of a zerg online he could not beat. He was shocked when his teammate revealed it was Jaedong's account, hence his constant reference to him when he encounters a tough Zerg on ladder.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 13:16:01
July 25 2016 13:15 GMT
#228
On July 25 2016 20:39 c3rberUs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 20:34 Wrath wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?

On official matches Bisu has the better head to head. But Bisu once told a story of a zerg online he could not beat. He was shocked when his teammate revealed it was Jaedong's account, hence his constant reference to him when he encounters a tough Zerg on ladder.

I think in such manner he just wanted to praise JD's skills than pin-point how he was inferior to JD.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 25 2016 13:33 GMT
#229
On July 25 2016 22:15 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 20:39 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:34 Wrath wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?

On official matches Bisu has the better head to head. But Bisu once told a story of a zerg online he could not beat. He was shocked when his teammate revealed it was Jaedong's account, hence his constant reference to him when he encounters a tough Zerg on ladder.

I think in such manner he just wanted to praise JD's skills than pin-point how he was inferior to JD.


There are numerous tales of how Jaedong was simply untouchable to protosses during practice. The tale Bisu told was to highlight how flawless Jaedong was when it came to pure standard play during practice, but he did mention that he was easier to defeat during broadcasted games, although I'm not sure whether the context is that Jaedong performed worse on television, or whether Jaedong was easier to overcome with a particular style of play.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 25 2016 14:43 GMT
#230
On July 25 2016 22:33 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 22:15 letian wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:39 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:34 Wrath wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?

On official matches Bisu has the better head to head. But Bisu once told a story of a zerg online he could not beat. He was shocked when his teammate revealed it was Jaedong's account, hence his constant reference to him when he encounters a tough Zerg on ladder.

I think in such manner he just wanted to praise JD's skills than pin-point how he was inferior to JD.


There are numerous tales of how Jaedong was simply untouchable to protosses during practice. The tale Bisu told was to highlight how flawless Jaedong was when it came to pure standard play during practice, but he did mention that he was easier to defeat during broadcasted games, although I'm not sure whether the context is that Jaedong performed worse on television, or whether Jaedong was easier to overcome with a particular style of play.


Actually that online zerg Bisu could not beat was Shine. His teammates just tried to not trigger him. True story
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 15:25:18
July 25 2016 14:48 GMT
#231
On July 25 2016 23:43 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 22:33 Letmelose wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:15 letian wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:39 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:34 Wrath wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?

On official matches Bisu has the better head to head. But Bisu once told a story of a zerg online he could not beat. He was shocked when his teammate revealed it was Jaedong's account, hence his constant reference to him when he encounters a tough Zerg on ladder.

I think in such manner he just wanted to praise JD's skills than pin-point how he was inferior to JD.


There are numerous tales of how Jaedong was simply untouchable to protosses during practice. The tale Bisu told was to highlight how flawless Jaedong was when it came to pure standard play during practice, but he did mention that he was easier to defeat during broadcasted games, although I'm not sure whether the context is that Jaedong performed worse on television, or whether Jaedong was easier to overcome with a particular style of play.


Actually that online zerg Bisu could not beat was Shine. His teammates just tried to not trigger him. True story

Haha.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 25 2016 14:50 GMT
#232
On July 25 2016 23:43 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2016 22:33 Letmelose wrote:
On July 25 2016 22:15 letian wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:39 c3rberUs wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:34 Wrath wrote:
On July 25 2016 20:27 c3rberUs wrote:
Only when a zerg player consistently smashes Bisu will I believe it's Jaedong.


Was it that one sided in the KeSPA era?

On official matches Bisu has the better head to head. But Bisu once told a story of a zerg online he could not beat. He was shocked when his teammate revealed it was Jaedong's account, hence his constant reference to him when he encounters a tough Zerg on ladder.

I think in such manner he just wanted to praise JD's skills than pin-point how he was inferior to JD.


There are numerous tales of how Jaedong was simply untouchable to protosses during practice. The tale Bisu told was to highlight how flawless Jaedong was when it came to pure standard play during practice, but he did mention that he was easier to defeat during broadcasted games, although I'm not sure whether the context is that Jaedong performed worse on television, or whether Jaedong was easier to overcome with a particular style of play.


Actually that online zerg Bisu could not beat was Shine. His teammates just tried to not trigger him. True story


The idea of Shine playing ten standard games in a row is more amazing than the fact that it was indeed him that humbled Bisu.
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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 25 2016 15:29 GMT
#233
Well, after watching JD games against Ample, Light and Piano, he looked pretty on point most of the games. Maybe a little rusty but decent macro. It was really fun to watch his ZvT, much more than Larva's "failed queens showcase".
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 25 2016 16:02 GMT
#234
You know what I hope the most? That Jaedong stream on twitch and talks english. What the foreign scene is clearly missing are english scbw streams. I would watch the shit out of Idra, Mondragon, ret streaming BW
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
n3p
Profile Blog Joined July 2016
93 Posts
July 25 2016 16:08 GMT
#235
On July 26 2016 01:02 duke91 wrote:
You know what I hope the most? That Jaedong stream on twitch and talks english. What the foreign scene is clearly missing are english scbw streams. I would watch the shit out of Idra, Mondragon, ret streaming BW


The unfortunate thing is, I'm not too sure how accepting the foreign scene as a whole would be with watching BW. A lot of people are brainwashed by Graphics>Everything and New>Old to the point where the only people watching BW would be mostly BW enthusiasts and maybe some SC2 players. It's just much more lucrative for Koreans to stream BW on their own web platform.
This is a fucking joke. Fuck you. - RIP IdrA
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 25 2016 16:19 GMT
#236
On July 26 2016 01:08 n3p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 01:02 duke91 wrote:
You know what I hope the most? That Jaedong stream on twitch and talks english. What the foreign scene is clearly missing are english scbw streams. I would watch the shit out of Idra, Mondragon, ret streaming BW


The unfortunate thing is, I'm not too sure how accepting the foreign scene as a whole would be with watching BW. A lot of people are brainwashed by Graphics>Everything and New>Old to the point where the only people watching BW would be mostly BW enthusiasts and maybe some SC2 players. It's just much more lucrative for Koreans to stream BW on their own web platform.


Well the SSBM community was certainly vocal enough. As long as we brainwash back, some people will flock over.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 25 2016 16:56 GMT
#237
On July 26 2016 01:19 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 01:08 n3p wrote:
On July 26 2016 01:02 duke91 wrote:
You know what I hope the most? That Jaedong stream on twitch and talks english. What the foreign scene is clearly missing are english scbw streams. I would watch the shit out of Idra, Mondragon, ret streaming BW


The unfortunate thing is, I'm not too sure how accepting the foreign scene as a whole would be with watching BW. A lot of people are brainwashed by Graphics>Everything and New>Old to the point where the only people watching BW would be mostly BW enthusiasts and maybe some SC2 players. It's just much more lucrative for Koreans to stream BW on their own web platform.


Well the SSBM community was certainly vocal enough. As long as we brainwash back, some people will flock over.

Some ppl is not enough.
Foreign BW community is minute. The amount of watched BW views on youtube is pretty self-explanatory. It is a miracle we still have these awesome guys who upload stuff.
On a positive note, the scene is somewhat reviving in Korea. I will be just happy if we shall have more korean tournaments. It is ok if our community won't grow here which is pretty understandable but Korean community and the reappearance of young players is more important tbo.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 25 2016 18:16 GMT
#238
On July 26 2016 00:29 letian wrote:
Well, after watching JD games against Ample, Light and Piano, he looked pretty on point most of the games. Maybe a little rusty but decent macro. It was really fun to watch his ZvT, much more than Larva's "failed queens showcase".

Where did you see this? Are there vods anywhere?
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-25 18:53:21
July 25 2016 18:48 GMT
#239
On July 26 2016 03:16 nbaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2016 00:29 letian wrote:
Well, after watching JD games against Ample, Light and Piano, he looked pretty on point most of the games. Maybe a little rusty but decent macro. It was really fun to watch his ZvT, much more than Larva's "failed queens showcase".

Where did you see this? Are there vods anywhere?

Probemicro and vhvvx777 posted the games in "Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) - Page 95"

Light vs jiko: Game1 part1, Game1 part2
Ample vs jiko: Game1, Game2
Piano vs jiko: Game1, Game2, Game3 (hilarious game!)

duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
July 25 2016 20:18 GMT
#240
Judging by that muta micro, it's jaedong or yellow[arnc]
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