Afreeca to sponsor 2 BW Tournaments in 2016 - Page 7

On May 23 2016 04:45 palexhur wrote:
@Jealous, please respect the others opinion, in every thread you are defending your linear point of view and for you is the only one that exist, if he thinks that Afreeca doesnt give a shit about BW, he has the right to say so, and yes they are not making this service to BW for free, you know that Afreeca makes money from the streamers?, so it is not like: oh please everybody worship Afreeca, BW community is feeling dissapointed about not having news on these two tournaments, it gives the impression that they only care about the profit from the ex pros but not making bigger things happening for the whole scene, besides here comes this guy from Afreeca and only says vague things.

On May 23 2016 05:44 _Animus_ wrote:
Guys the first post speaks for itself.



This making me think that there should be happening a tournament already, with no news so far it looks more or less abandoned. Why making public announcements like this when no word about it after? A bit bitchy.

On May 23 2016 05:45 Jealous wrote:

Respecting another's opinion isn't just a blanket that you throw on to cover all opinions. Some opinions are less valid than others. The opinion that 1 + 1 = 3 is not valid. The opinion that Afreeca doesn't care about BW is one that falls in the "less valid" category, especially when presented in the way that he did. That is actually the crux of the matter for me; the tone in which he talks about a service that has provided and continues to provide the backbone to the very scene he says Afreeca is killing. This is why is I can respect the way you presented a similar stance.

I can understand disappointment, and I know that Afreeca has fiscal compensation. I'm not saying everyone should worship Afreeca either, but to make ignorant and disrespectful statements is a little too much for me to accept.

@Wrath: "Keep failing to understand' is a bit of a stretch considering that it wasn't brought up in my conversation with Outscar or any other conversation I've had, for that matter. I can understand the desire for an offline league, I share in it. However, that doesn't mean we have to start talking down to the very people that provide these tournaments.




http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/502705-afreeca-to-sponsor-2-bw-tournaments-in-2016?page=6#111

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Adapted quote from "A Few Good Men"

"[Afreeca] has neither the time nor the inclination to explain [it]self to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very [Brood War] that [they] provide, and then questions the manner in which [they] provide it. [They] would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, [they] suggest you pick up a [server], and [start a streaming service of your own, or donate money, or run a tournament of your own instead of crying and saying things like "bitchy" or "Afreeca doesn't care about Brood War"]. Either way, [they] don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. "

On May 23 2016 07:47 _Animus_ wrote:

hmm im doing what i can about foreign tours and its nothing i can do for (their) offline tournaments right? They doesnt appear with anything on the matter, and when someone said wtf is happening you appear calling him like crybaby. Having progamers streaming is not like having tournaments like last VNSL. If you are satisfyed to watch just streams many people including me are not, i dont find any hype in watching streams more than killing some time. BTW do you get any money from afreeca?

On May 23 2016 07:58 Jealous wrote:


To be fair you said that it was "A bit bitchy," to make an "announcement and then post no word about it after" and I promptly provided you with a post that happened less than a month ago that is on the previous page, meaning that you didn't put in the tiny amount of effort necessary to satisfy your query before you to complain and point fingers about it.

On May 23 2016 07:58 Jealous wrote:

Also, they didn't come in and just say "wtf is happening," which is a valid question, and instead shifted straight to the blame game saying "Afreeca doesn't care about BW." These are vastly different things. I already conceded that the lack of offline leagues is saddening and that I too would like another, but bitching about it on forums accomplishes nothing and only makes that poster seem like a child who didn't get his candy when he expected it.

On May 23 2016 07:58 Jealous wrote:
Lol yea Afreeca funneled some of that BW money into having me post on TL shutting down entitled people instead of investing it into an offline tournament, you got me there.

On May 23 2016 19:24 c3rberUs wrote:
If we're guaranteed 2 leagues in the future I'll take it even if it's late 2016 and in 2017. BW fighting!

Jealous, how much are they paying you?

On May 26 2016 06:52 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Apologies for being vague before, but it was the most information I had received at the time. Two more tournaments are still being planned for this year, but the second one will likely run into the beginning of next year.

On May 26 2016 07:27 duke91 wrote:
People on here are always so negative....

On May 26 2016 06:52 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Apologies for being vague before, but it was the most information I had received at the time. Two more tournaments are still being planned for this year, but the second one will likely run into the beginning of next year.