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Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24591 Posts
January 13 2016 20:18 GMT
#41
Panda bear guy nooooooooooooooooooooo!
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 20:23:48
January 13 2016 20:21 GMT
#42
Tasteless my brother from another mother

I could ask nick if he wants to do something on BW again he follows me on twitter. I doubt he will tho.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10230 Posts
January 13 2016 21:03 GMT
#43
On January 13 2016 21:23 BisuDagger wrote:
If they return, I'll retire as a caster. There's really no point in casting anymore if they come back. I've casted the game the past 4 years because I love the game and did this with a full time job. To them, casting is a full time job and another way for them to make money. I can't and won't compete with that.

i wouldnt want you to leave :c you're practically my mentor/brother when i came onto the staff and tried to get me to cast more games and such. I would hate to see you retire. Maybe we can just do our stupid sc2 LotV casts and do some unofficial BW re-broadcasts or such.
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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
January 13 2016 21:29 GMT
#44
On January 13 2016 19:52 Endymion wrote:
didnt artosis say that sc2 was more strategically deep than scbw? lmfao, i hope tasteless comes back but tbh artosis just jumps where the money is... afreeca should get little 작은 수지 instead, if she wants to come back...


typical instance of absolute vs comparative advantage. SC2 is comparatively more strategy focused, but BW is still strategically deeper. It is just that BW is even more mechanically demanding than strategically demanding. Doesn't imply that SC2 is more strategically demanding, but just more focused on that given its very weak demands on mechanics.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 21:40:39
January 13 2016 21:34 GMT
#45
i love kiante casts did he do anything in the last X years?


are kiantes casts all lost? nothing comes up here

http://www.twitch.tv/kiante/profile

ok there is some stuff under Highlights tab

there are lots of games here

https://www.youtube.com/user/TorenhireStarleague/videos

is there gem league vods anywhere? or was gem league a 1 off thing
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8587 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 21:36:54
January 13 2016 21:36 GMT
#46
On January 14 2016 06:29 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 19:52 Endymion wrote:
didnt artosis say that sc2 was more strategically deep than scbw? lmfao, i hope tasteless comes back but tbh artosis just jumps where the money is... afreeca should get little 작은 수지 instead, if she wants to come back...


typical instance of absolute vs comparative advantage. SC2 is comparatively more strategy focused, but BW is still strategically deeper. It is just that BW is even more mechanically demanding than strategically demanding. Doesn't imply that SC2 is more strategically demanding, but just more focused on that given its very weak demands on mechanics.


lol, this is very well formulated and on point. It's also the first time I read this in precise words like this and I'm here for quite a while now...

On January 14 2016 06:34 FFGenerations wrote:
i love kiante casts did he do anything in the last X years?


are kiantes casts all lost? nothing comes up here

http://www.twitch.tv/kiante/profile


Yeah, Kiante is awesome! :D
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
January 13 2016 22:28 GMT
#47
No I want to hear him cast in Spanish.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 13 2016 23:14 GMT
#48
On January 13 2016 21:58 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2016 21:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On January 13 2016 21:23 BisuDagger wrote:
If they return, I'll retire as a caster. There's really no point in casting anymore if they come back. I've casted the game the past 4 years because I love the game and did this with a full time job. To them, casting is a full time job and another way for them to make money. I can't and won't compete with that.

it doesnt make any sense.should we all retire cuz old school players re coming back ?

I'd focus more on writing news article and helping with foreign BW events to be honest. But my casting schedule is best fit for korean tournaments because I can cast from 4am-8am and then go in to work.

edit: To add perspective, I get paid for afreecaTV. Yes, I finally get paid for casting BW. This is the equivalent to you winning the TLS/TLC. Except for me, if I cast past 7am I've actually lost money at this point cause it cuts into my work hours. There is the potential I actually lost $150-$200 a week depending on how long a cast goes and if I don't get the opportunity to work a 42+ hour work week to recoup the cost. So since the start of VNSL I've lost close to $800 just to cast this league. Which, who cares about the money, I get to cast VNSL!

Look, my perspective is entirely selfish. Tastosis returning to Brood War would be amazing for the scene. I would welcome them and offer them any help I could and their return is probably one of the best things possible. But for me personally, it just really really sucks.

Eh? Noway they'll cast all BW events!
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Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1012 Posts
January 13 2016 23:22 GMT
#49
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 23:33:58
January 13 2016 23:30 GMT
#50
On January 14 2016 08:22 Freezard wrote:
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.


I've been talking to a few pros and they think that LotV is way better than the previous expansion. It's fast paced and everything is just better. But the fact that sc2 imo is a very bad game compared to broodwar might be enough for LotV to die as a game. Just watch the viewers count on twitch and it says a lot. even tho it might get higher with LotV.

But people coming back to broodwar playing seriously/competitively wont ever happen. At least not for the foreign scene. Companies wont spend 1 cent on a game that has been dead for so many years now. And the amount of work and motivation the players need to make for this game to be competitive/active again is too much of a struggle.

So even tho people love broodwar it wont be like it was years ago. Sorry to break it down to you.

Well if "EVERY" big streamer came back and streamed BW on a daily basis that would help tho, but since the SC2 viewers count has been extremely low compared to the big games it wont do much i think.
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DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
January 13 2016 23:31 GMT
#51
Bring back the panda man
Dance.943 || "I think he's just going to lose. There's only so many ways you can lose. And he's going to make some kind of units. And I'm going to attack him, and then all his stuff is going to die. That's about the best prediction that I can make" - NonY
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 13 2016 23:35 GMT
#52
haha people clamoring for tasteless and artosis to cast brood war. I'm all for more interest into brood war but now me and bisudagger got stiff competition to prove that we are the better casting archon :D
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
January 13 2016 23:35 GMT
#53
I have so many questions

1) Are they good at liquibet (50+ right now)

2) Has tasteless finally found out what a "group" of Mutalisk is called (is it a flock ?? a gaggle ???)

3) Is SDM coming back

4) When are they starting

5) Why haven't they started already
Where is my ACE flair
tanngard
Profile Joined April 2011
Norway1325 Posts
January 13 2016 23:38 GMT
#54
On January 14 2016 08:22 Freezard wrote:
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.

No small VOD thread? Just look at the tournament section and you will find small VOD thread 2.0. We got everything on there.
Freezard
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Sweden1012 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-13 23:44:37
January 13 2016 23:43 GMT
#55
On January 14 2016 08:30 NiGoL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 08:22 Freezard wrote:
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.


I've been talking to a few pros and they think that LotV is way better than the previous expansion. It's fast paced and everything is just better. But the fact that sc2 imo is a very bad game compared to broodwar might be enough for LotV to die as a game. Just watch the viewers count on twitch and it says a lot. even tho it might get higher with LotV.


I have watched some LotV and yes it's definitely an improvement, but like you said I think it's a little bit too late. SC2 is still SC2 and LotV is what it should have been on release (many pros also said this). I like that LotV is more micro oriented because that's the fun part when it comes to spectating, although it's still just a group of units vs another group of units with some shooting back and forth.

It's not impossible that BW returns because BW died because of SC2, and if SC2 dies... well, why not bring back the game whose scene just abruptly ended? Of course I'm talking about some kind of HD version of BW being released as well for it to happen, it wouldn't be the first time people go back to an old game that was modernized.

On January 14 2016 08:38 tanngard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 08:22 Freezard wrote:
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.

No small VOD thread? Just look at the tournament section and you will find small VOD thread 2.0. We got everything on there.


Ah thanks! I've been away too long from these forums, I was looking in the general thread Now I'll watch some BW for sure, especially since I saw Bisu was playing :D
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
January 13 2016 23:55 GMT
#56
Just do it
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 00:45:02
January 14 2016 00:44 GMT
#57
i'd not get overhyped people. It would be nice if Tastosis did cast BW but im gonna believe it when i see it.
Broodwar for life!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 14 2016 02:02 GMT
#58
Um, YES??????
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NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-14 02:38:42
January 14 2016 02:35 GMT
#59
On January 14 2016 08:43 Freezard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 08:30 NiGoL wrote:
On January 14 2016 08:22 Freezard wrote:
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.


I've been talking to a few pros and they think that LotV is way better than the previous expansion. It's fast paced and everything is just better. But the fact that sc2 imo is a very bad game compared to broodwar might be enough for LotV to die as a game. Just watch the viewers count on twitch and it says a lot. even tho it might get higher with LotV.


I have watched some LotV and yes it's definitely an improvement, but like you said I think it's a little bit too late. SC2 is still SC2 and LotV is what it should have been on release (many pros also said this). I like that LotV is more micro oriented because that's the fun part when it comes to spectating, although it's still just a group of units vs another group of units with some shooting back and forth.

It's not impossible that BW returns because BW died because of SC2, and if SC2 dies... well, why not bring back the game whose scene just abruptly ended? Of course I'm talking about some kind of HD version of BW being released as well for it to happen, it wouldn't be the first time people go back to an old game that was modernized.

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 08:38 tanngard wrote:
On January 14 2016 08:22 Freezard wrote:
Haven't watched BW since it all died off, would defo watch BW again if Tasteless and/or Artosis returns. Tried to find VODs for the VNSL tournament that is going on currently but there doesn't seem to be any small VOD thread like there used to be. Anyway, I don't care much about SC2 anymore, I only watch the really big events and even then I mostly have it on in the background... it just never was as exciting to watch (or play) as BW was. Hopefully BW can return once LotV fades off and the modern BW version is released.

No small VOD thread? Just look at the tournament section and you will find small VOD thread 2.0. We got everything on there.


Ah thanks! I've been away too long from these forums, I was looking in the general thread Now I'll watch some BW for sure, especially since I saw Bisu was playing :D



HD version of BW? You mean some type of BW Remake or a new expansion with better graphics and same playstyle? Yeah if that happens IT MIGHT happen. But they haven't announced anything close to that happening.

Yes BW died because SC2 was released. Also because BW foreign scene had almost no competitive tournaments left except teamliquids own tournament. Which affects every pro player to play this game. No money no motivation anymore. The thing that made BW so good even before the money came to the scene was that people played it with passion/love for the game. StarCraft2 never had that because it started with tournament winnings/salaries and streaming.

The passion is not there anymore for people who played BW. The only reason pros would pick BW over any popular game these days if the game was PUMPED with money and tournaments offline/online and companies supporting . I can't see that happening at all. And another type of BW coming out wont happen either, I'm pretty sure of that. And i think i read some statement from the blizzard employees that it wont. I'm not 100% sure of this but I think I've seen it somewhere before SC2 came out.

People still love BW and plays it occasionally under smurf nicks.
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Monochromatic
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States998 Posts
January 14 2016 03:05 GMT
#60
I'd love for tasteless to cast BW. I'd love to start watching the game, but there a couple things that have kept holding me back.

The first issue I have is that I don;t understand how things work. A good caster can fix this problem for me.

The second problem is the low quality in many older vods. New casts would fix this problem.

I'd love it if Tasteless started casting BW, if only because it would introduce me to the game.
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