EPTSo while i perfectly understand your frustration and i agree you were treated in a unfair way, perhaps it's helps you knwoing you were in a lucky spot to begin with.
Tasteless and Artosis will cast VNSL semi-finals and final…
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
So while i perfectly understand your frustration and i agree you were treated in a unfair way, perhaps it's helps you knwoing you were in a lucky spot to begin with. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
This is super awesome, though, i really hope they'll cast more! | ||
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phfantunes
Brazil170 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On January 13 2016 19:52 Endymion wrote: didnt artosis say that sc2 was more strategically deep than scbw? lmfao, i hope tasteless comes back but tbh artosis just jumps where the money is... afreeca should get little 작은 수지 instead, if she wants to come back... artosis is a sell out and has been since sc2 came out tbh | ||
prech
United States2948 Posts
 Can very much empathize with being usurped, it really is a shame how things transpired so underhandedly... On January 16 2016 07:43 Musicus wrote: So is the VANT Starleague sponsored by Afreeca or what (besides VANT of course  )? Because I don't think bringing Tastosis to cast this will do a lot in the long run. Only by bringing the stream to twitch would the foreign BW scene grow imo. They should just let BD and amazingxkcd cast this on twitch instead of bringing Tastosis to afreeca.tv if they want more english viewers.Afreeca seems to be subsidizing the VNSL quite a bit, from providing venue and casters to the broadcasting infrastructure and marketing (heavily, all throughout the Afreeca sites), etc. Twitch may indeed bring more viewers, but Afreeca has set its sights on expanding outside Korea, i.e. as a direct competitor to Twitch, so I don't envision them supporting BW events/casts being simul-streamed on Twitch... | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:11 prech wrote: Twitch may indeed bring more viewers, but Afreeca has set its sights on expanding outside Korea, i.e. as a direct competitor to Twitch, so I don't envision them supporting BW events/casts being simul-streamed on Twitch... Won't happen. Twitch was popular when international streaming became mainstream and at this point, they are too big to fail (despite several missteps in the past two years). Big crouds attract a lot of streamers and a lot of streamers attract big crouds. Youtube can be the only worthy competitor if they do it right but I doubt it since they have several issues (no livestreaming on Youtube allowed in Germany for example). Local livestreaming services should pander only to the local people, everything else is wasted money. I told that the nico² people but they still tried and obviously failed. | ||
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pEcul!Ar
52 Posts
Anyways, if this would've happened 4 years ago, I might've (and probably would've) been excited, now I'm just wondering if they're actually going to be capable of commentating without fucking about more than usual just to cover up the lack of knowledge of the current scene and how the game's played nowadays. Awk well, probably not going to bother watching it, as I predict the commentary to be subpar in terms of knowledge. | ||
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CheAse
Canada919 Posts
I've missed Tasteless BW. Just hasn't been as good for me since sc2. Please please please keep doing more. | ||
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Befree
695 Posts
Wonderful news people have been asking for for 6 years. Clearly a positive step forward for Brood War. It will surely bring back some viewers who had left long ago. edit: But wow did Wolf seem to not remotely comprehend the importance of what Tasteless was saying during that announcement. He interrupted him to read a sign in the crowd lol. | ||
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neptunusfisk
2286 Posts
On January 16 2016 04:28 AncientSionX wrote: They abandoned it for SC2. They should stay there. just like bisu, zero, soulkey, piano, flash, jangbi and the other returning pros as well? traitors, scumbags, i was so pissed how bisu won a SSL after playing that scumbag game professionally because his employers wanted him to | ||
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palexhur
Colombia730 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:44 neptunusfisk wrote: just like bisu, zero, soulkey, piano, flash, jangbi and the other returning pros as well? traitors, scumbags, i was so pissed how bisu won a SSL after playing that scumbag game professionally because his employers wanted him to Well the didnt join an on going tournament and play only Finals or Semifinals, didnt they? | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:11 prech wrote: Very much support BD and XKCD's continued efforts, persistently slogging it through the trenches with casting BW in recent years even as the foreign audience has continued to shrink. Can very much empathize with being usurped, it really is a shame how things transpired so underhandedly... Afreeca seems to be subsidizing the VNSL quite a bit, from providing venue and casters to the broadcasting infrastructure and marketing (heavily, all throughout the Afreeca sites), etc. Twitch may indeed bring more viewers, but Afreeca has set its sights on expanding outside Korea, i.e. as a direct competitor to Twitch, so I don't envision them supporting BW events/casts being simul-streamed on Twitch... Okay, thanks for the info. Just thought it might be possible, since the Afreeca GSL is also streamed on twitch. | ||
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NiGoL
1868 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:08 arb wrote: artosis is a sell out and has been since sc2 came out tbh Lol that is so false. Don't talk about people you don't know anything about | ||
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feckless
1099 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:44 Befree wrote: Hopefully just a vocal minority here with the bitterness. Ridiculous reactions from some people. Wonderful news people have been asking for for 6 years. Clearly a positive step forward for Brood War. It will surely bring back some viewers who had left long ago. edit: But wow did Wolf seem to not remotely comprehend the importance of what Tasteless was saying during that announcement. He interrupted him to read a sign in the crowd lol. Here's how I see it: we have two amazing members of the BW community who have contributed and put time in an otherwise "dead game" (as many call it). Seems to me that strengthening the existing, and die-hard, community of fans was reward in itself. But they get an even bigger reward when they finally got hired on to cast Then suddenly, two other guys, the "big dogs", come calling around. These are two guys who left BW for the "greener pastures" of SC2. On the other hand, it seems to be pretty clear how passionate BD/xkcd are. But the "big dogs" are, well, the "big dogs". So they unceremoniously kick out the guys they originally hired and then bring in the "big dogs" to cast the last few matches? What the hell is that? To me it seems very distasteful (tasteless, even). From a strictly business and/or professional point-of-view, it seems very unsavory. This is regardless of casting quality. I apologize in advance if you think that that is a "ridiculous reaction". Also, I'm not saying it's not a "positive step" for BW. But some people need to take this in stride. Will they stick around? Will they cast these last few matches and then go away again? Will the people who "return" to watch BW stick around, as well? Or are they just following the casters? On the other side, I have no doubt that BD/xkcd are going to stick around. | ||
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Mengmeng
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feckless
1099 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:50 palexhur wrote: Well the didnt join an on going tournament and play only Finals or Semifinals, didnt they? Exactly. This isn't about whether or not Tasteless and/or Artosis are "traitors". It's about how they decided to "return" and how the whole thing has been handled. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On January 16 2016 10:18 feckless wrote: Here's how I see it: we have two amazing members of the BW community who have contributed and put time in an otherwise "dead game" (as many call it). Seems to me that strengthening the existing, and die-hard, community of fans was reward in itself. But they get an even bigger reward when they finally got hired on to cast Then suddenly, two other guys, the "big dogs", come calling around. These are two guys who left BW for the "greener pastures" of SC2. On the other hand, it seems to be pretty clear how passionate BD/xkcd are. But the "big dogs" are, well, the "big dogs". So they unceremoniously kick out the guys they originally hired and then bring in the "big dogs" to cast the last few matches? What the hell is that? To me it seems very distasteful (tasteless, even). From a strictly business and/or professional point-of-view, it seems very unsavory. This is regardless of casting quality. I apologize in advance if you think that that is a "ridiculous reaction". Also, I'm not saying it's not a "positive step" for BW. But some people need to take this in stride. Will they stick around? Will they cast these last few matches and then go away again? Will the people who "return" to watch BW stick around, as well? Or are they just following the casters? On the other side, I have no doubt that BD/xkcd are going to stick around. finally a sensible post not to mention a certain "big dog" has even dissed BW, on tumblr (lol) of all places, of how sc2 is more "strategically" better than BW. so i guess now hes gonna a 180 on this cast and call BW beautiful and best game of all time. superficial sellout guy through and through. bandwagon-ners will still lap it up all the same. | ||
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KameZerg
Sweden1769 Posts
On January 16 2016 09:08 arb wrote: artosis is a sell out and has been since sc2 came out tbh lol Artosis took on another style when he switched to sc2, Nick strikes me as a bit more genuine. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On January 16 2016 10:43 ICanFlyLow wrote: lol Artosis took on another style when he switched to sc2 nice editing out "superficial" | ||
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