wow, if I had alot of free cash I would take testies offer... that is reeeeeally cheap to learn from the best non-korean BW player
even a highschool maths tutor gets like $20 per hour.

unfortunately I barely have enough money to pay for food atm

boghat

United States2109 Posts

February 22 2007 06:04 GMT

#43

If you have that much of a desire to be good that you'd pay money just practice 8-12 hours a day for awhile and I guarantee you'll be fucking unbelieveable as long as you practice in a good way and have at least average intelligent to comprehend strategies. Here's the secret to be as good as pro: practice 8 hours a day for 2 years like they all have, PRETTY SIMPLE.

edit: If you want quick improvement this is still pointless. The person who practiced rigorously for a year will still be much better than the person who took lesson from a pro for 6 months. There's really no point in improving fast so you might as well practice your ass off if you want to be good.

itemlock

United States256 Posts

February 22 2007 06:13 GMT

#44

I will vote "yes", but it really depends on how much it is and how serious the person teaching is about teaching. Many people would ask why one would pay to learn how to play a game when you have so many resources available, but then again you could just as validly ask why someone would pay for a music teacher when you have so many resources available online. Learning yourself is different from having a professional there to help you along the way. Granted, you can learn by yourself, but it's simply better in most cases when you have someone to teach you... And if it's a hobby that you're devoting any significant portion of your time and effort to, why wouldn't it be worth a bit of money to get better at it?

When it comes to how much I'd actually pay, it would really depend on the type of instruction it is. The reason you can't really put an hourly rate on something like BW is simply because you have to divide a lesson into a game played, review of a replay, lecture on mistakes, a bit of practice on key points (maybe using UMS maps?), and then cover other things that a student might ask. All in all, it's generally a lot of stuff to cover and takes a lot of time. And you wouldn't improve by having 1 lesson a week either so consider this... If it were actual in-person instruction, I'd probably be willing to pay up to $10 depending on who it was that was teaching me. If it's an over-the-net type of instruction, then I'd probably set my limits at $5 and hour since I would imagine the lesson to be relatively lax and also the nature of the internet can be annoying at times (it would suck to lose lesson time to lag...)

NubainMuscle

South Africa423 Posts

February 22 2007 06:16 GMT

#45

On February 22 2007 13:10 Sacajawea wrote:
If you can't improve on your own, you have learning deficiency and need to go see a doctor.

The best learning / improvement has always taken place within a community.
Training in a vacuum will severely stunt your progress, regardless of the activity.

The point of paying for lessons is to gain access to expertise that would normally not be available.

Edit1: Its not a substitute for private practice or individual progress, but a supplement to ensure that THE METHOD of training remains effective.

Loveletter

United States543 Posts

February 22 2007 06:18 GMT

#46

not at all. haha

jtan

Sweden5891 Posts

February 22 2007 06:19 GMT

#47

definately not

rel

Guam3521 Posts

February 22 2007 06:20 GMT

#48

Keep taking your creatine...

siro)

Australia848 Posts

February 22 2007 06:33 GMT

#49

$5/$10 an hour is really cheap

Silver

New Zealand378 Posts

February 22 2007 06:41 GMT

#50

On February 22 2007 15:04 boghat wrote:
If you have that much of a desire to be good that you'd pay money just practice 8-12 hours a day for awhile and I guarantee you'll be fucking unbelieveable as long as you practice in a good way and have at least average intelligent to comprehend strategies. Here's the secret to be as good as pro: practice 8 hours a day for 2 years like they all have, PRETTY SIMPLE.

edit: If you want quick improvement this is still pointless. The person who practiced rigorously for a year will still be much better than the person who took lesson from a pro for 6 months. There's really no point in improving fast so you might as well practice your ass off if you want to be good.

well, i remember an chess grandmaster once saying that 1 hour of focused teaching gives the same improvement in a students game as that student learning from playing for 1 year.
... but then, starcraft isn't chess.

BrutalMenace

United States1237 Posts

February 22 2007 06:46 GMT

#51

if i still played the game maybe i would. But then again there were ladders back then so you got a lot of help back then watching replays of others and playing people ur skill lvl.

Ganfei1

China667 Posts

February 22 2007 06:51 GMT

#52

I'd pay $100 to instantly become Testie+ level

rel

Guam3521 Posts

February 22 2007 06:56 GMT

#53

I'd rather put money toward, a decent ladder.

decafchicken

United States20017 Posts

February 22 2007 06:56 GMT

#54

The problem i see is that 1-2 games + replays could easily be an hour, and its just not enough quantity for the money, whereas in music, math, etc. you can review several concepts/things faster in less time.

bine

United States2352 Posts

February 22 2007 06:56 GMT

#55

I would pay someone like testie, but not for regular lessons in the way I would a music teacher or something. Within my personal financial range, it would be more like a few of hours once a month, where he would look at specific aspects of my game in replays, and give me some sort of "homework" to work on until the next monthly meeting or w/e, where i would show him reps of me trying to do the homework, and then he would look at the next thing i need to improve, and do that.

I might consider something like that, but I couldn't afford like $100 a month in BW lessons.

I'd do it because it would be fun, and because it would be fun to be better at BW. It's not so fun being sucky and losing all the time.

Xeris

Iran17695 Posts

February 22 2007 08:50 GMT

#56

Thanks guys for your input , keep voting and keep discussing

Seraphim

United States4467 Posts

February 22 2007 08:51 GMT

#57

Look,

If i could pay money, just to get better, like, buying liquid skill, I would do it. Otherwise, no.

FConnectionUK

United States316 Posts

February 22 2007 09:11 GMT

#58

$10 an hour seems too much for me,
I would pay like 75 cents per game. Not because I want to learn(partialy true), but because I would never get an opportunity to play the best/extremely skilled. Playing a world's best a BO5 at the price under $4 isn't bad at all. Heck, if I'm satisfied, i throw in another 50 cents!

evanthebouncy!

United States12796 Posts

February 22 2007 09:13 GMT

#59

I'm fast learner. I'd pay for... hmm 10 dollars per hour, once a week, from say... Nal_rA or some gosu toss.
:D

Heen

Korea (South)2178 Posts

February 22 2007 09:14 GMT

#60

I don't think BW is complex enough of a game to need teaching. That isn't to say that it's an easy game, just a game where practice and motivation makes perfect.

Sometimes, I can feel that my game has gotten better just by thinking (image training?) about it.

Of course, if we're talking about guaranteed improvement in skill, I might pay a four digit amount to become pro-level. But I'd assume that most others here would too