4pool and 5pool comparison:
Using bloodbath, bottom right position, good splits.
4pool - 1:52 and ended with 4 drones
5pool - 1:55 and ended with 6 drones

TheGreatOne

United States534 Posts

September 09 2006 07:42 GMT

#26

Dont matter 4/5 pool are weak builds 9 pool is much better than both.

Blind

United States2528 Posts

September 09 2006 07:58 GMT

#27

On September 09 2006 15:33 8882 wrote:

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drones and probes regenerate for free

The regeneration isn't nearly fast enough. Just like 1 scv vs 1 probe or 1 scv vs 1 drone, scv always wins, this is 10 scv vs 10 probe or 9 drone. (Zerg is still waiting on ovie to finish and toss's pylon finished so they're 10th probe is starting. Maybe 11th.) 10 scvs could very likely work even if they other person had 1 extra worker. The problem is their 1 zealot or lings are in production, so that's where the trouble is. This post is just to say that the regeneration factor isn't the reason scv rush doesn't work.

sdpgposd

United Kingdom1464 Posts

September 09 2006 08:04 GMT

#28

are u kidding, 4 pool works in every position :D

Patriot.dlk

Sweden5462 Posts

September 09 2006 08:30 GMT

#29

lol scvs are not stronger then probes and drones... They have smaller range and dont regenerete.. 10 scv attack is sure death. unless opponent is totally dumb and combat scv straight up.

Of course one scv beat one probe if it's a battle to death but not if the probe backs of and regenerate energy..

First zealot / lings will be of more use then first marines.

Blind

United States2528 Posts

September 09 2006 08:39 GMT

#30

On September 09 2006 17:30 Patriot.dlk wrote:
lol scvs are not stronger then probes and drones... They have smaller range and dont regenerete.. 10 scv attack is sure death. unless opponent is totally dumb and combat scv straight up.

Of course one scv beat one probe if it's a battle to death but not if the probe backs of and regenerate energy..

First zealot / lings will be of more use then first marines.

lol Do you think you're going to be able to spend all day waiting for regeneration? Are you ever going to be able to use that extra range in a b.net game where there's latency?

KrAzYfoOL

Australia3037 Posts

September 09 2006 09:53 GMT

#31

On September 09 2006 13:20 MyLostTemple wrote:
just pick terran and send 10 scvs when u get them and rape all their shit and win

that actually does work, esp. in 2v2 when your teammate also is T.

L!MP

Australia2067 Posts

September 09 2006 10:11 GMT

#32

to all those suggesting that 10scv rush would actually work i suggest you actually try it out in a real game. it's good in theory i guess, but by the time you get to their base they already outnumber you and also have the advantage of having more workers joining the fray while the battle is underway. it IS certain death and the only way scv rushing is ever effective is when you have a partner scv rushing with your.

Kaotu

United States986 Posts

September 09 2006 10:17 GMT

#33

too much talk

meet me in channel: blood bath @west for some 1on1 blood bath action

Blind

United States2528 Posts

September 09 2006 10:37 GMT

#34

On September 09 2006 19:11 L!MP wrote:
to all those suggesting that 10scv rush would actually work i suggest you actually try it out in a real game. it's good in theory i guess, but by the time you get to their base they already outnumber you and also have the advantage of having more workers joining the fray while the battle is underway. it IS certain death and the only way scv rushing is ever effective is when you have a partner scv rushing with your.

I have tried it out in a real game and had it work. With that aside, I was only arguing with those who said it wouldn't work because probes/scvs have regeneration.

edit: That is, if it doesn't work, it's because they're producing zealots/lings, not because they're getting extra workers with regeneration.

Message me FightAsBlind on west and I'll try it.

KwarK

United States41878 Posts

September 09 2006 10:51 GMT

#35

Surely they don't fight your scvs straight up. They wait on zeal/lings. If you attack a building they try and gank an scv, when you turn to fight, they're gone. So either you chase them round while zee builds or you slowly lose through attrition.

TheGreatOne

United States534 Posts

September 09 2006 12:56 GMT

#36

Yes it's not the regeration factor at all its the fact that if scvs target one worker you can run it around for 3 or 4 seconds. So on and so on just bying time to eventualy just outmicro with workers or get a zea/lings/or rines then its over.