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goody153
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On December 02 2013 20:24 goody153 wrote: as far as i know blizzard cant give a fuck on who plays their game as long as they brought it right? even if blizzard would want to intercept i dont think they could If you want to stream a BW tournament and make money of it, you need to obtain a license from Blizzard. Seems like Chinese don't care about that stuff too much and probably didn't bother getting one. Will they just show Blizzard the middle finger? I have no idea how this stuff works on international grounds. | ||
2Pacalypse-
Croatia9567 Posts
On December 02 2013 19:34 Stratos wrote: Btw. even if Blizzard ends up doing nothing this is bad news for SoSPA anyway. Sonic is soon to be dealing with major companies to sponsor SSL9 and this kind of news won't be very beneficial. It probably wouldn't matter to the sponsors that Savior wasn't and isn't allowed in SoSPA. They might just see some controversial news in the scene and put their hands away. As you may or may not know, Sonic also requested Savior's participation would be cancelled. He was in one way or another told to go fuck himself by the Chinese organizators. That's also very healthy for the scene. +2 for savior I guess? This is the best and most important post to get from all of this. All of you who support savior in any way are too short-sighted to see what kind of potential problems this might bring to the SOSPA. It's amazing that he's managing to help destroy the BW scene for the second time, this time even before it reached its full potential. I just hope Sonic and SOSPA still manage to give us good news like this even despite this very annoying problem that they could very well do without. But don't get me wrong, just because savior is a bad guy here, doesn't automatically means that KeSPA is a good guy. Unfortunately, there are no good guys here (except Sonic who is not mentioned in this news). In the end, it doesn't really matter that KeSPA is doing this, because savior was already doing harm to potential Sonic's sponsors even without, now increased, media attention. But yeah, as nina said, KeSPA should stay quiet until they host a BW tournament which I somehow doubt will happen, so we need to put all our trust and faith into the Sonic and help him in any way we can. | ||
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goody153
44309 Posts
On December 02 2013 20:27 Stratos wrote: If you want to stream a BW tournament and make money of it, you need to obtain a license from Blizzard. Seems like Chinese don't care about that stuff too much and probably didn't bother getting one. Will they just show Blizzard the middle finger? I have no idea how this stuff works on international grounds. many are streaming broodwar tournaments. So i guess getting the license is not so important. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On December 02 2013 20:43 goody153 wrote: many are streaming broodwar tournaments. So i guess getting the license is not so important. It gets more important with the scale of the tournament you're hosting. Sonic had to get one too, he found out just before his offline finals but someone high up in Blizzard was notified and made sure everything went smooth. | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On December 02 2013 20:31 2Pacalypse- wrote: This is the best and most important post to get from all of this. All of you who support savior in any way are too short-sighted to see what kind of potential problems this might bring to the SOSPA. It's amazing that he's managing to help destroy the BW scene for the second time, this time even before it reached its full potential. I just hope Sonic and SOSPA still manage to give us good news like this even despite this very annoying problem that they could very well do without. But don't get me wrong, just because savior is a bad guy here, doesn't automatically means that KeSPA is a good guy. Unfortunately, there are no good guys here (except Sonic who is not mentioned in this news). In the end, it doesn't really matter that KeSPA is doing this, because savior was already doing harm to potential Sonic's sponsors even without, now increased, media attention. But yeah, as nina said, KeSPA should stay quiet until they host a BW tournament which I somehow doubt will happen, so we need to put all our trust and faith into the Sonic and help him in any way we can. See I don't like savior, but at least he didn't trick me into giving him 120 euro for two piece of shit games and then proceed to kill a game he didn't even make. Anyone or anything that in anyway does anything to harm and/or piss off those cunts in Irvine has my full support, if savior started carrying a sign around with him wherever he went that said FUCK BLIZZARD he would be in a moral sense the best player in our scene right now. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On December 02 2013 20:53 zeo wrote: See I don't like savior, but at least he didn't trick me into giving him 120 euro for two piece of shit games and then proceed to kill a game he didn't even make. Anyone or anything that in anyway does anything to harm and/or piss off those cunts in Irvine has my full support, if savior started carrying a sign around with him wherever he went that said FUCK BLIZZARD he would be in a moral sense the best player in our scene right now. So you'd support someone for insulting a company that has barely any impact at the expense of the currently re-growing BW scene? Weird logic. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1982 Posts
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Cam Connor
Canada786 Posts
That motherfucker should never get a dime from brood war ever again | ||
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On December 02 2013 20:57 Stratos wrote: So you'd support someone for insulting a company that has barely any impact at the expense of the currently re-growing BW scene? Weird logic. You really think Blizzard should have a say in anything to do with Brood War? It is up to us, the community, to figure out if we should watch/support a tournament with savior in it. Not Blizzard. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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soujiro_
Uruguay5195 Posts
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DarkNetHunter
1224 Posts
The bad thing about this is it gives BW bad press, which sucks in general. As for Sonic requesting that they don't let savior play, that was good, at least he took a stand. However if they truly had wanted to enforce it, Sonic would have had to call an ultimatum such as : no SoSPA players are allowed to play in a tournament with the matchfixers, which would've meant Scan and Movie would not have been playing,and that might've pressured the Chinese more. Sadly he can't do that because he can't compensate players for the lost money, but this is essentially why we need a more professional body again. | ||
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9567 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:10 zeo wrote: You really think Blizzard should have a say in anything to do with Brood War? It is up to us, the community, to figure out if we should watch/support a tournament with savior in it. Not Blizzard. What kind of world do you live in? You're angry at a business company for doing business, successfully at that. And you expect community to come to the sensible consensus and agree on something controversial as savior? | ||
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Hyeon
Korea (South)462 Posts
On December 02 2013 18:47 digmouse wrote: I doubt this SCNTV even gets a tournament license from Blizzard in the first place because in China everyone doesn't care about that. I found another Korean news, and it said SCNTV didn't get license from China Blizzard. On December 02 2013 18:46 Grovbolle wrote: Football =/= Broodwar A better example: FIFA and KFA stopped caring about football, begin being all about basketball. There was a match fix in Korean football league. One of the guy was banned from Korean league. KFA stopped doing football. FIFA stopped doing football. He tried to play in Croatia league but Korea football association asked FIFA to block that guy to play in proleague. You see the difference? ??? On December 02 2013 18:55 rommel917 wrote: In HNL (Croatian football leauge) matchfixing is normal, everybody does it. interesting. but i heard HNL admitted FIFA's requirement? On December 02 2013 18:57 Weryeery wrote: Nice to hear that kespa is still interested with BW, furthermore a foreign tournament... So they want to use savior to kill a reviving BW? you want to revive bw by using matchfix guy? lol ======================================== I'm sick of seeing you guys blame KeSPA with this. Why not blame Savior? It seems you guys don't know why BW league gone? LOL | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:10 zeo wrote: You really think Blizzard should have a say in anything to do with Brood War? It is up to us, the community, to figure out if we should watch/support a tournament with savior in it. Not Blizzard. When did I say anything like that? I didn't. Either way - what us, the foreign community, figures out is mostly irrelevant. What's relevant is what Korea thinks about Savior and that is... Best comments from related news on this topic: +3809 -200 This is so shameless what's the reason for this? Take your responsiblity for breaking Star 1 at once. +2588 -103 Savior's second (adopted) home +2513 -97 It's a shame someone like Savior was a progamer. +2326 -88 Savior conscience boso (I think that's supposed to be "boss") +2291 -98 If Savior really had any conscience he wouldn't participate. ^ and this was before he won the $25,000. China mostly doesn't seem to care but if KeSPA and Blizz opt to gang up on them it's thanks to this atmosphere in Korea that they can do so. | ||
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:24 Hyeon wrote: I'm sick of seeing you guys blame KeSPA with this. Why not blame Savior? It seems you guys don't know why BW league gone? LOL It's gone not because of one, but of the combination of all related factors. | ||
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Mewka
Poland1458 Posts
I'm sick of seeing you guys blame KeSPA with this. Why not blame Savior? It seems you guys don't know why BW league gone? LOL So you are saying that KeSPA stopped doing BW tours and league cause of few guys matchfixed? In my opinion it doesn't make sense. Anyway pro BW existed like 2 yaers after matchfixing, but was gradually 'dying' for favor of starcraft 2. | ||
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
I dont think kespa and blizzard (should) have anything to say about it though.. | ||
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