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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
December 02 2013 09:32 GMT
#21
On December 02 2013 18:28 Hyeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 18:24 rabidch wrote:
stupid. if china wants to invite savior then they can invite savior, even if i think he shouldnt be allowed to play, and blizzard shouldnt be touching this at all


It's blizzard game, not Chinese game.
Blizzard had to allow and allowed chinese to host this.

So? Chinese want to invite Savior?

Then play Blood war, chinese are good at copying.


I think everyone gets the rages about savior. However, both Blizzard and KeSPA decided at one point to give up on Brood War. Personally, Blizzard died for me when they called up Sonic shortly before SSL, not to mention their role in the Copyright issue bullshit war against KeSPA. This was such a sloppy move. If any of the two punks try to interfere with BW again they should do it, because they want to support the scene. Furthermore, what does KeSPA think they do? It's not like they gave a crap about the foreign world in general. They chose SCII, so they should stick with it.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
December 02 2013 09:34 GMT
#22
I was not happy to see Savior making money, but the Chinese company is free to invite Savior to its tournament.
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Hyeon
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Korea (South)462 Posts
December 02 2013 09:44 GMT
#23
okay, so let me tell you this.

There was a match fix in Korean football league.
One of the guy was banned from Korean league.
He tried to play in Croatia league but Korea football association asked FIFA to block that guy to play in proleague.

So?

Let's put KFA as KeSPA
Blizzard as FIFA
Croatia league as Chinese league.

answer?
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 12:24:39
December 02 2013 09:44 GMT
#24
25,000 USD
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
December 02 2013 09:46 GMT
#25
On December 02 2013 18:44 Hyeon wrote:
okay, so let me tell you this.

There was a match fix in Korean football league.
One of the guy was banned from Korean league.
He tried to play in Croatia league but Korea football association asked FIFA to block that guy to play in proleague.

So?

Let's put KFA as KeSPA
Blizzard as FIFA
Croatia league as Chinese league.

answer?

Football =/= Broodwar

A better example:
FIFA and KFA stopped caring about football, begin being all about basketball.

There was a match fix in Korean football league.
One of the guy was banned from Korean league.
KFA stopped doing football.
FIFA stopped doing football.
He tried to play in Croatia league but Korea football association asked FIFA to block that guy to play in proleague.

You see the difference?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
December 02 2013 09:47 GMT
#26
I doubt this SCNTV even gets a tournament license from Blizzard in the first place because in China everyone doesn't care about that.
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Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 02 2013 09:54 GMT
#27
This is an expected follow-up to how savior's participation is perceived in Korea, I.e. unlike on TL, which is irrelevant, 30:1 people hate the idea of him making money in BW.

Now kespa and blizzard can use this opportunity to 1) send a message to all matchfixers 2) kick the dying dog that is BW.

Who should we be mad at? Savior is well aware of his presence hurting what's left of the scene but does he give a shit? He just had a great trip and made 25k. So much for your hero reviving BW.
En Taro Violet
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2750 Posts
December 02 2013 09:54 GMT
#28
move on already!!
as any other sports, if someone is caught cheating there is a timeframe for the punishment and then you let them play again.
give it up already kespa >.<
I bet they have learnt their lesson
rommel917
Profile Joined June 2013
Croatia11 Posts
December 02 2013 09:55 GMT
#29
On December 02 2013 18:44 Hyeon wrote:
okay, so let me tell you this.

There was a match fix in Korean football league.
One of the guy was banned from Korean league.
He tried to play in Croatia league but Korea football association asked FIFA to block that guy to play in proleague.

So?

Let's put KFA as KeSPA
Blizzard as FIFA
Croatia league as Chinese league.

answer?


In HNL (Croatian football leauge) matchfixing is normal, everybody does it.
Weryeery
Profile Joined June 2008
288 Posts
December 02 2013 09:57 GMT
#30
Nice to hear that kespa is still interested with BW, furthermore a foreign tournament...
So they want to use savior to kill a reviving BW?
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
December 02 2013 09:58 GMT
#31
On December 02 2013 18:54 ThePhan2m wrote:
move on already!!
as any other sports, if someone is caught cheating there is a timeframe for the punishment and then you let them play again.
give it up already kespa >.<
I bet they have learnt their lesson

Except he never apologized, if I understand correctly. I think people would be more likely to forgive somewhat if he apologized and never played BW again, but he keeps on making money from it so people keep hating. And I completely understand that.
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L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
December 02 2013 10:02 GMT
#32
Kespa, why don't you just mind your own business? How much money have you invested into BW lately? I would never support a BW tournament involving Savior, but if some organizer wants to involve him, then fine. If Kespa hadn't destroyed the BW scene, there wouldn't even have been a demand for Savior.

This is just a bunch of ppl on Kespa who is still butthurt about the matchfixing, and now they're trying to use their favourable position with Blizzard to punish Savior. This has nothing to do with them wanting a clean BW scene. If they really cared about BW, they would host a BW tournament. They just want to punish Savior, again, for what he did, which is pretty lame.
vanatir
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany355 Posts
December 02 2013 10:04 GMT
#33
dont know why the chinese decided to invite abusers in their tour, but i dont think there is anything blizzard or kespa can do. the chinese orgas should know it better...
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
December 02 2013 10:06 GMT
#34
blizzard has done so much more to hurt BW than Savior & co ever did
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
BoxvsYellow
Profile Joined December 2013
Canada1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 10:14:40
December 02 2013 10:08 GMT
#35
For more details, here's the translation of the entire Korean news article stating the incident.

The victory of Ma JaeYoon (Savior) in the Chinese starcraft championship, the player who has been charged with a year long sentence and two years of probation for the Starcraft Match Fixing Scandal, has recently became the controversy,

KesPa has not only taken away Ma's eligibility as a professional plyer, but the organization also has banned Ma from any E-sports related events.

On December 1st, 2013, after participating with his Chinese teammate, Ma has won 15,000 Yuan from the Starcraft 1 championship held by the Chinese online media called "SCNTV"

Although he was officially invited by the administration staffs of the championship and such event was "for the show" instead of the competition, it is hard to igore the fact that he acted as a professional player.

It is suspected that the championship was held without the approval of Blizzard. On December 2nd, KesPa staff has stated "Blizzard did not know about Ma's participation in the tournament at all. Blizzard is currently under their investigation regarding the championship. It seems that the championship was held without Blizzard's approval."

Any championship that involves Blizzard's game must gain the approval from Blizzard regarding the license.

Article: http://mbn.mk.co.kr/pages/news/newsView.php?category=mbn00012&news_seq_no=1566523
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 02 2013 10:10 GMT
#36
ok now I take this negativity against KeSPA as people want to revive BW by using savior
I mean, really guys?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 02 2013 10:11 GMT
#37
Who is Kespa? ~_^ Hope this fails. Long live Savior and hope he wins many other prizes in BW.
The only positive thing in their action, if any, is - wtf, "ded gaem?!" Not so ded anymore, as you can see! Lawyers are about to fight over it again. So it appears that the controversy/greatness of Savior can actually bring life to a scene, just you wait.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
December 02 2013 10:15 GMT
#38
On December 02 2013 19:11 figq wrote:
Who is Kespa? ~_^ Hope this fails. Long live Savior and hope he wins many other prizes in BW.
The only positive thing in their action, if any, is - wtf, "ded gaem?!" Not so ded anymore, as you can see! Lawyers are about to fight over it again. So it appears that the controversy/greatness of Savior can actually bring life to a scene, just you wait.

KeSPA and Blizzard will gangbang the chinese scene and make sure BW Asia Open doesn't happen for a long time. That's all Savior managed to do for this game. gj
En Taro Violet
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 10:19:58
December 02 2013 10:17 GMT
#39
On December 02 2013 19:15 Stratos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 19:11 figq wrote:
Who is Kespa? ~_^ Hope this fails. Long live Savior and hope he wins many other prizes in BW.
The only positive thing in their action, if any, is - wtf, "ded gaem?!" Not so ded anymore, as you can see! Lawyers are about to fight over it again. So it appears that the controversy/greatness of Savior can actually bring life to a scene, just you wait.

KeSPA and Blizzard will gangbang the chinese scene and make sure BW Asia Open doesn't happen for a long time. That's all Savior managed to do for this game. gj

Oh, and suddenly Blizzard even knows that BW exists??
And Kespa have anything to do with existing BW scene??
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
December 02 2013 10:20 GMT
#40
Why sAviOr couldn't play a foreign non-kespa league ?
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
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