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Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
August 30 2019 14:21 GMT
#1941
On August 30 2019 22:37 AttackZerg wrote:
Bisu is such a special player to watch.

Much closer to watching Flash then watching Rain.
He has such agility and speed. He does seem to change screens slower rate then before but... he is so fast that at times you can see him take a second and think.

I didn't realize how much I missed him until he came back.

Sadly we will never have Flash, Jaedong and Bisu as the god-heads of broodwar again.... but we may get a champion Bisu in a coming season and that is pretty special.


I am sad to see Flash go, but having Bisu coming back eases my mind about having some 'anticipation' going into each and every tournament. The anticipation being almost the expectation that they can win or there will be a great series to knock them out (snow vs flash). I hope Bisu can approach his skill ceiling in soonish but how can you rush a good thing
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium3999 Posts
August 30 2019 17:21 GMT
#1942
Bisu is on another level. This is where he is so close to Flash - he stretches the limits of his race doing what for most others is simply unthinkable. In my personal rating Flash, Bisu and Effort are the three most incredible players of each other's race. Glad to have him back!
Drone is a way of living
LV_426
Profile Joined December 2009
Poland432 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-30 19:14:44
August 30 2019 18:22 GMT
#1943
Bisu is great, but he has long way to be anywhere near Flash level...
if his pvt and pvp were on the pvz level, that would be different story...
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-31 10:51:49
August 31 2019 10:51 GMT
#1944
@attackzerg i wish the spoilers had vods in them :p
i can't stream afreeca very well. as in not at all. really pisses me off. i really want to see bisu play. anyone have youtube vods?
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VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-31 13:33:52
August 31 2019 13:23 GMT
#1945
Bisu lost a Bo3 Last, where Last completely shut down his drops with perfect base mine placement.

Now started a Bo3 vs Stork.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
August 31 2019 15:16 GMT
#1946
On August 31 2019 19:51 Alejandrisha wrote:
@attackzerg i wish the spoilers had vods in them :p
i can't stream afreeca very well. as in not at all. really pisses me off. i really want to see bisu play. anyone have youtube vods?


Afreeca streams terrible on my mobile, but is good on my PC. Maybe try a comp if you haven't yet
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 31 2019 16:29 GMT
#1947
On September 01 2019 00:16 Brainojack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2019 19:51 Alejandrisha wrote:
@attackzerg i wish the spoilers had vods in them :p
i can't stream afreeca very well. as in not at all. really pisses me off. i really want to see bisu play. anyone have youtube vods?


Afreeca streams terrible on my mobile, but is good on my PC. Maybe try a comp if you haven't yet

will try. thanks!
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ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-01 11:22:24
September 01 2019 07:31 GMT
#1948
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvt but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
September 01 2019 11:03 GMT
#1949
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvz but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

rain is the pvp goat. i don't know if even bisu is brainy enough to compete with him even when he is back in form
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10115 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-02 03:37:07
September 02 2019 03:36 GMT
#1950
On September 01 2019 20:03 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvz but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

rain is the pvp goat. i don't know if even bisu is brainy enough to compete with him even when he is back in form

I don't understand how you can dish out terms like "GOAT" towards Rain in PvP given Bisu's actual record both pre- and post-KeSPA. Bisu was THE PvP standard for many years in a row - Rain has only become so in the time of Bisu's absence IMO.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
LocoBolon
Profile Joined June 2012
Argentina243 Posts
September 02 2019 04:21 GMT
#1951
On September 02 2019 12:36 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 20:03 Alejandrisha wrote:
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvz but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

rain is the pvp goat. i don't know if even bisu is brainy enough to compete with him even when he is back in form

I don't understand how you can dish out terms like "GOAT" towards Rain in PvP given Bisu's actual record both pre- and post-KeSPA. Bisu was THE PvP standard for many years in a row - Rain has only become so in the time of Bisu's absence IMO.


Yes, many people are beeing victims of the goat fever, Today I got tired of hearing Teasteless call Snow the PvT goat, throwing it so easily like it's a given, when there was Stork and there was Jangbi... chill your pants grampa.
Goat is more than the top of the very top. Goat is Flash. When people claim goat so carelessly they are disrespectig God
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
September 03 2019 05:12 GMT
#1952
On September 01 2019 20:03 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvz but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

rain is the pvp goat. i don't know if even bisu is brainy enough to compete with him even when he is back in form

This would be a pvp finals I wouldnt mind to watch
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
September 05 2019 02:45 GMT
#1953
Hilarious that video of Bisu giving balloons to Denzie and complementing her zerg (: his English was so funny 😂 same day she beat Zero 2:1 in his off race Terran (and -1 scv handicap).
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
PorkSoda
Profile Joined September 2015
170 Posts
September 05 2019 02:49 GMT
#1954
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvt but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

Well he has been in the military for the last year and a half...
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-06 05:52:00
September 06 2019 05:08 GMT
#1955
i agree i am a victim of goat fever when it comes to rain's pvp. i wasn't watching bw as much as you were in bisu's peak, jealousy, but was he really able to take down the top protosses effortlessly and win even in so-called bo/losses? and win every mind game alsmost every game. i will look for some vods. do you have a recommended year for bisu's pvp?
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 06 2019 05:23 GMT
#1956
On September 05 2019 11:49 PorkSoda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvt but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

Well he has been in the military for the last year and a half...


his pvz is still class and pvt okish as expected when his old form is taken into account. not pvp though. it has eerie vibes to how JD completely lost his zvz mojo as well. might have been how their stellar mirror matchup quality is due to how finetuned and precise their mechanics are back in the day, which is no longer case in a more casual streamer era
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4315 Posts
September 06 2019 09:58 GMT
#1957
His PvT is getting top notch already. He's beating sharp rush and mong most games, and last more than half, basically just hasn't played flash yet. But his PvP needs a ton of work yes.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
September 06 2019 12:16 GMT
#1958
On August 31 2019 19:51 Alejandrisha wrote:
@attackzerg i wish the spoilers had vods in them :p
i can't stream afreeca very well. as in not at all. really pisses me off. i really want to see bisu play. anyone have youtube vods?


When I try to watch an Afreeca stream on TL it crashes within 2 minutes. I can watch the streams fine if I open them on the Afreeca website. It still may crash once at the beginning but after restarting it, it works fine.


On September 06 2019 14:23 ggsimida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2019 11:49 PorkSoda wrote:
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvt but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

Well he has been in the military for the last year and a half...


his pvz is still class and pvt okish as expected when his old form is taken into account. not pvp though. it has eerie vibes to how JD completely lost his zvz mojo as well. might have been how their stellar mirror matchup quality is due to how finetuned and precise their mechanics are back in the day, which is no longer case in a more casual streamer era


Before going to the military Bisu was rocking a solid 23-3 (88.46%) PvP record in post-kespa tournament games. I'd say he was acceptably proficient in that matchup

https://tl.net/tlpd/sospa/players/125_Bisu
Brainojack
Profile Joined March 2018
Canada195 Posts
September 06 2019 12:21 GMT
#1959
On September 06 2019 21:16 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2019 19:51 Alejandrisha wrote:
@attackzerg i wish the spoilers had vods in them :p
i can't stream afreeca very well. as in not at all. really pisses me off. i really want to see bisu play. anyone have youtube vods?


When I try to watch an Afreeca stream on TL it crashes within 2 minutes. I can watch the streams fine if I open them on the Afreeca website. It still may crash once at the beginning but after restarting it, it works fine.


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2019 14:23 ggsimida wrote:
On September 05 2019 11:49 PorkSoda wrote:
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvt but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

Well he has been in the military for the last year and a half...


his pvz is still class and pvt okish as expected when his old form is taken into account. not pvp though. it has eerie vibes to how JD completely lost his zvz mojo as well. might have been how their stellar mirror matchup quality is due to how finetuned and precise their mechanics are back in the day, which is no longer case in a more casual streamer era


Before going to the military Bisu was rocking a solid 23-3 (88.46%) PvP record in post-kespa tournament games. I'd say he was acceptably proficient in that matchup

https://tl.net/tlpd/sospa/players/125_Bisu


Who is Lazy and why are two of bisu's losses vs him?
ggsimida
Profile Joined August 2015
1148 Posts
September 06 2019 12:40 GMT
#1960
On September 06 2019 21:16 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2019 19:51 Alejandrisha wrote:
@attackzerg i wish the spoilers had vods in them :p
i can't stream afreeca very well. as in not at all. really pisses me off. i really want to see bisu play. anyone have youtube vods?


When I try to watch an Afreeca stream on TL it crashes within 2 minutes. I can watch the streams fine if I open them on the Afreeca website. It still may crash once at the beginning but after restarting it, it works fine.


Show nested quote +
On September 06 2019 14:23 ggsimida wrote:
On September 05 2019 11:49 PorkSoda wrote:
On September 01 2019 16:31 ggsimida wrote:
the most concerning for me is not pvz/pvt but pvp where he seem to have lost his mojo, a matchup that he used to be rain-esque unbeatable in. watched him lost meekly 0-2 to omekim just now.,.

Well he has been in the military for the last year and a half...


his pvz is still class and pvt okish as expected when his old form is taken into account. not pvp though. it has eerie vibes to how JD completely lost his zvz mojo as well. might have been how their stellar mirror matchup quality is due to how finetuned and precise their mechanics are back in the day, which is no longer case in a more casual streamer era


Before going to the military Bisu was rocking a solid 23-3 (88.46%) PvP record in post-kespa tournament games. I'd say he was acceptably proficient in that matchup

https://tl.net/tlpd/sospa/players/125_Bisu


i was hesitant to use pre military stats there was a real lack of quality p opposition and total games in general. compare it to rain where he get plenty of wins over snow best stork mini etc..
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