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So right now, I'm trying to get all the available records of every D-ranks event that was hosted from the DRTL/DRIT 1 to the latest events. I'm also going to be including the games from Game of Thrones, Captain's Tourneys, All-Star games, showmatches, and any other side-tourneys.
If there's any other league/tourney that was made for D-ranks that I'm probably gonna forget about, please list them in the thread... Any current ongoing event will not be counted.
+ Show Spoiler +D-Ranks Teamleague Season 1
D-Ranks Teamleague Season 2
D-Ranks Teamleague Season 3
D-Ranks All-Kill Teamleague Season 1
D-Ranks Teamleague Season 4
D-Ranks Teamleague Season 4 All-Star Game
D-Ranks Teamleague Season 5 Round 1
D-Ranks Teamleague Season 5 Round 1 All-Star Game
D-Ranks Individual Tournament Season 1
D-Ranks Individual Tournament Season 2
D-Ranks Individual Tournament Season 3
D-Ranks Individual Tournament Season 4
D-Ranks Individual Tournament Season 5
D-Ranks Individual Tournament Season 6
D-Ranks Game of Thrones Season 1
TAKK Inhouse Tourney
CityShuffle vs RedAxis showmatch
Echo vs Sentenal showmatch
Captain's Tournament Season 1
For the statistics, I'm gonna start off with just a win-loss record for each player for just DRTL, just DRIT, and everything combined. I'm not gonna be counting any walkovers, whether they're wins or losses. Keep in mind that I'm basically going off by whatever is in Liquipedia, and as the records for DRTL 1 and 2 are pretty lacking, what you see is what you get.
Later on, if I have the time, I might try and do a head-to-head chart featuring how one player does well against other players, or the win-loss record for each matchup.
Unfortunately, I'm not gonna use Birdie's original D-ranks ELO ranking style, I'm just going to go off simply by win-loss percentage.
Fun Facts!Most games played in D-ranks:  EchOne [Courage] 87 games played Most games won in D-ranks: EchOne [Courage] 65 games won Most games lost in D-ranks: TheMarine [Hwaiting Oz] and  nagisama [Courage] 34 games lost Best win percentage in D-ranks (minimum of 25 games played): EchOne [Courage] and  CityShuffle [Airforce Ace of Spades] 75% win percentage Highest "+" rating: EchOne [Courage] +43 Highest "-" rating: xkcd [SunKhan] -23
Top 10
Updated up to DRTL 5 Round 2
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The first two DRTLs have a lot of results in the threads themselves but you have to manually trawl through them to find the results. I think there may have been some other tours, not officially called D ranks tours at the time, pre-DRTL1. I'll see if I can find any information about them.
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Hey uh, does my game vs imatthebeach count? cuz he bloody cheated lol.
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Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count.
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On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. Lol, if they dont count i have officially only lost to zerg players. 5-0 5-0 otherwise.
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On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count.
wat they were also smurfing? what a joke
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On September 08 2013 17:38 rauk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. wat they were also smurfing? what a joke
Yeah and SlowBullets = ImAtTheBeach, Minister = KingGeedorah, NewJetCity = JohnnyRico. They're all friends with Babo in real life. DRTL4 was a bit of a farce in that respect, as I highly doubt Sun Khan could have won without them.
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what...?
that's kind of retarded
they still went 3-2 vs despa? can we get the results reversed to our win? lol
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On September 08 2013 18:01 rauk wrote:
what...?
that's kind of retarded
they still went 3-2 vs despa? can we get the results reversed to our win? lol
If all Sun Khan wins were reversed (as they all except the walkover win they got were affected by those three players) then the top four teams after the regular season would have been Stealth Bunnies, TAKK, DeSPA, and Courage. In the regular season, sB beat Courage and TAKK beat DeSPA, and if the same thing happened it would be sB vs TAKK finals, which again in the regular season sB won, and DeSPA vs Courage 3rd place match, which in regular season DeSPA won. So it would have been sB victory, TAKK #2, DeSPA #3, and Courage #4.
By my reckoning at least ;D
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we played takk in the 4th week, and we didn't have DNH
i think we would have EZ crushed them in playoffs 
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Wut? BaBo being a scumbag confirmed over and over.
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Alright, for ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity, I'll just simply null the wins/losses, as changing the results of their game wouldn't really make for an accurate stat sheet. Good thing I stopped after DRATL, lol.
As for DRTL 1 and 2, I'll try my best to dig through every single result.
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In the DRITs, I noticed that though they say who got 3rd/4th, they don't state what the head-to-head score was, so keep that in mind ^^
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Best win percentage in DRTL (minimum 8 games): CityShuffle [Airforce Ace of Spades] 95%
The good old days where i didn't had to zvt so much =/ And damn, i loved that all-kill format :[
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On September 09 2013 00:58 Jealous wrote:
In the DRITs, I noticed that though they say who got 3rd/4th, they don't state what the head-to-head score was, so keep that in mind ^^
I haven't gone through any of the DRITs just yet, but like DRTL 1 and 2, if the results aren't on Liquipedia, I'll try my best to dig through the thread and find the results, if at all. From what I know of the DRITs, the third place match in DRIT 6 between Lmaster and DarkNetHunter wasn't played at all. Other than that, I'll try my best to keep up.
On September 09 2013 01:13 CityShuffle wrote:Show nested quote +Best win percentage in DRTL (minimum 8 games): CityShuffle [Airforce Ace of Spades] 95% The good old days where i didn't had to zvt so much =/ And damn, i loved that all-kill format :[
Aha, well, DRATL should be coming back for the second half of DRTL5 so you can always be excited for that.
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Updated OP with DRIT facts. Also, how should I list the rankings? By number of wins, win percentage, +/-? Which would take precedent over the other? Number of wins would slightly be flawed in that some players would have >50% but still be in the upper ranks. Win percentage would be flawed in that 1-0 players would be 100%. +/- is flawed in the sense that even players that has about 20 wins but 25 losses wouldn't be in the upper listing.
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Top10 wins chart updated in OP.
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Cool stuff! Highest drit win % woot!!
edit: nvm
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Prophecy man... Max rank D hahaha. You should ladder dude! I am sure you can hit C if you play at least 50 games. Not trying to call you out, but if you're ahead of me, then there is little to no reason for you to not be able to hit C too (I hit C this season and last).
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let's face the truth. most players in DRTL etc. would hit C if they would ladder a bit more.
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On September 10 2013 06:32 orite wrote:
let's face the truth. most players in DRTL etc. would hit C if they would ladder a bit more.
Most players in this new DRTL, not the ones previous. I got so much shit, every season, as did a few others (arb, others a bit less so) just for being C max* (like 4100 points) years ago. Although the arguments were logical, it's now devolved into a league that doesn't care. Now it's become D+/C- league. Courage could be a CRTL team and be just as legitimate. Not that I have any right to say this now, but it is what it is - look at the rosters.
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Think about it, TheMarine is 28-34 and hit C this season, and hasn't really improved THAT much over time. It's not like he lost all the time then won all the time. Orite is 100% correct.
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We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way.
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On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way.
Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL.
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On September 10 2013 07:15 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 06:32 orite wrote:
let's face the truth. most players in DRTL etc. would hit C if they would ladder a bit more. Most players in this new DRTL, not the ones previous. I got so much shit, every season, as did a few others (arb, others a bit less so) just for being C max* (like 4100 points) years ago. Although the arguments were logical, it's now devolved into a league that doesn't care. Now it's become D+/C- league. Courage could be a CRTL team and be just as legitimate. Not that I have any right to say this now, but it is what it is - look at the rosters.
Courage WAS in C-ranks, just called School of Wala and look where they finished, 2nd last. If you want to bring up that not most of Courage played, the ones that did are better than those of Courage in D-ranks, didn't really help their results.
I haven't even really touched the game for weeks myself. Too busy playing CSGO.
That said, at least I got "most" something in those statistics! Take that Protoss-dominated rankings!
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I am clearly worst player in DRTL. What do I win?
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Hwaiting Oz is strongest line-up imo. Besides they're 1st place, they have some players with really solid C- stats this and last season. I'd wonder if they couldn't reach C...
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On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. Yeah, I'm leaving after this season too, I think the only thing below c- for me is my zvz. Maybe ill leave before the end if I actually up and ladder and prove my suspicions right. I can beat the borderline c- players without practicing at all, and that tells me its probably time I start looking to leave lol...
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On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL.
People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion:
prophecy_
arb (if he can dodge PvT)
L_Master
CityShuffle
Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th)
RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid)
KaiGreene (solid C- at least)
Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP)
Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...
Confirmed to C- level:
icedraco
TheMarine (I still don't know how)
EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players.
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Canada4481 Posts
On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players.
So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you?
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On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count.
What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right?
On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you?
As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4.
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On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you?
I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..."
Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows.
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On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows.
Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy.
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On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4.
On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy.
Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please.
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Babo: I've never laddered in any game in my life. It's just not fun for me.
On retirement: I'm willing to retire if
a.) We have a systematic approach to assessing whether a player warrants expulsion. It must also apply to newer players who have no league data to prevent the Sun Khan situation from happening again and destroying an entire season. I already have my eye on a few new players this season who would probably exceed the scope given a couple seasons of data, but it is far preferable to gain the information for that judgment before seasons begin.
b.) Other players at my level are thusly removed. Getting singled out and removed because I happen to have the longest history and the most games played is not my idea of fairness, especially when I regularly lose to a wide range of players.
An aside on C ranks events: I participated in one of the CRTLs managed by L3gendary. It was fun and I played a number of games, winning some and losing some. However I never really befriended any of my team mates, only ever practiced with Fold, never got to play with Sayle, and generally had a disappointing time on the social front. The competition was also fairly problematic with everything from B-s, TLS and Gambit's cup regulars, smurfs, LRM)Inf3cted, etc. etc.
I feel like in the current state of iCCup, C-/C should be its own tier, separated from C+/B-, but we already know how problematic iCCup is for issues like ranking.
Addendum: In my experience, players who are legitimately D- can almost never beat D+ players and above, and should not be in the same tier. Think about it: A D- player essentially doesn't even play the game. A D+ player *consistently wins games*, even at some sort of low level.
Because of the nature of true beginners in a difficult game like BW, I feel this particular 2 rank gap is bigger than any other, and special care should be taken to isolate D-/D players specifically if we want to actually create an environment for beginners.
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prophecy, like I said, I have nothing against you, but I really think you could do it. That's all I am saying. I'm not saying all the people I listed need to get kicked out, including you; I am saying that maybe it is time to redefine the parameters. Of course I feel like it is unfair that it took this long to get to this point - me being the chief villain of DR before any of the wrongs I've committed, but now people who are on a similar or higher level than me getting free passes - but that is irrelevant to what I am trying to point out. Why not call it "casual" league and have it be judged by a panel (as I suggested to L_Master a season ago)? Why not avoid all this drama by avoiding the ICC ranking system? Seems to make sense imo.
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Everyone is just angry that no one has the amount of wins that I do...
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Canada4481 Posts
On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please.
Well you still post here, so there's some level of care.
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On September 10 2013 12:19 Nagisama wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please. Well you still post here, so there's some level of care.
That is indisputable. I feel like trolling is my hobby so I have to devote towards it.
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On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please.
Hmm. Considering you tried to smurf into the league after getting banned, continuously posting in this thread whinning about Echo being better than you, AND multi-PMing RedAxis, begging to count your "3-0" walkover win over Gaoxi, sounds like caring about D Ranks stuff to me.
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On September 10 2013 12:29 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please. Hmm. Considering you tried to smurf into the league after getting banned, continuously posting in this thread whinning about Echo being better than you, AND multi-PMing RedAxis, begging to count your "3-0" walkover win over Gaoxi, sounds like caring to me.
1) Smurfing into the league was of course a despicable act that was committed due to jetlag in Thailand. It was for the lulz.
2) Posting in this thread whining about echo being better than me - I do not lose or gain anything from saying the things I say. I just wanted to motivate him; even if its not fun for him, it is clear that he is better than me and most people who are in this league, including you and many other "C-" players. I'm trying to convince him that it is worth it to ladder to test your worth as a player.
3) There was no walk-over, I PM'd because I didn't want to make a publicly huge deal of the fact that Gao lost 3-0, and has henceforth dodged me at every opportunity stating something along the lines of "fuck protoss." I didn't want to be inflammatory or to single him out, considering, like I said, "It's not my place..." The fact that I spend 60 seconds while drunk typing things does not equate to my excessive amount of caring for "D"R anymore. I am just stating opinions,.
4) Sick dodge.
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Canada11368 Posts
Well, whatever the case may be, I know I am solidly D. Finally laddered a bunch. 44 games now, which is 40% of all ladder games I have ever played on iccup and I am at 1300 points. I usually win every third. And if I don't kick out D+ players, then I nosedive into a 6 loss streak. (I was at 1500.)
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Laddering and preparing for matches are also two totally different things.
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On September 10 2013 12:35 Falling wrote:
Well, whatever the case may be, I know I am solidly D. Finally laddered a bunch. 44 games now, which is 40% of all ladder games I have ever played on iccup and I am at 1300 points. I usually win every third. And if I don't kick out D+ players, then I nosedive into a 6 loss streak. (I was at 1500.)
Keep playing D+, it's late season and playing people who are above you often leads to improvement!
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On September 10 2013 12:37 tonight wrote:
Laddering and preparing for matches are also two totally different things.
100% true. I don't know enough about prophecy outside his wins vs. me and his stats to say that it is pure skill or preparation, but I don't think anyone can doubt that what you are saying is true.
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Canada11368 Posts
I started playing them just because I needed practice for the tourney and no D Protoss were joining but yeah I'll probably do it again even if I nosedive in points further. Didn't help for the particular match, but I guess over time.
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On September 10 2013 12:40 Falling wrote:
I started playing them just because I needed practice for the tourney and no D Protoss were joining but yeah I'll probably do it again even if I nosedive in points further. Didn't help for the particular match, but I guess over time.
Better than not playing at all. Wish I had the time to play whenever I wanted too.
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I played 3 C+ high Terrans at D+/C- this week, so...
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why isn't babo permabanned again
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you guys understand how ladder works? http://www.iccup.com/dota/dota_rating_system.html
Basically if you have 20-20 on non MOTW you are c-.
If you have 75%+ vs D/D+ (same rank maybe 1+ rank) you hit C- in 24games (18-6)
and so on...
The point, since the league is not formatted to have endless peak (i.e if you are playing Gambit you can be b- to A+++) you probably should NEVER exceed 60% win unless you get lucky and play the bottom level opponents all the time. (which is unlikely because you see these c- ~ or higher guys continually play)
Finally, if you guys don't do any change then please stop with the continuing rank problem QQs because they can't be fixed other than removing people with these win rates after a season/tournament concludes.
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On September 10 2013 12:35 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 12:29 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please. Hmm. Considering you tried to smurf into the league after getting banned, continuously posting in this thread whinning about Echo being better than you, AND multi-PMing RedAxis, begging to count your "3-0" walkover win over Gaoxi, sounds like caring to me. 1) Smurfing into the league was of course a despicable act that was committed due to jetlag in Thailand. It was for the lulz. 2) Posting in this thread whining about echo being better than me - I do not lose or gain anything from saying the things I say. I just wanted to motivate him; even if its not fun for him, it is clear that he is better than me and most people who are in this league, including you and many other "C-" players. I'm trying to convince him that it is worth it to ladder to test your worth as a player. 3) There was no walk-over, I PM'd because I didn't want to make a publicly huge deal of the fact that Gao lost 3-0, and has henceforth dodged me at every opportunity stating something along the lines of "fuck protoss." I didn't want to be inflammatory or to single him out, considering, like I said, "It's not my place..." The fact that I spend 60 seconds while drunk typing things does not equate to my excessive amount of caring for "D"R anymore. I am just stating opinions,. 4) Sick dodge.
1. I'm only typing this because it's quarter-moon and this greatly decreases my wolf-powers.
2. Here's what you should do instead of trying to talk echOne into playing: "Guys, I really was upset because I feel as though people are clearly cheating in the D-ranks tours, and because of that, I was like 'Okay, if they're going to be allowed to cheat, then fuck it, I'll give them a taste of their own medicine.' and that was really wrong of me. The truth is, I really like the D-ranks tours and wish I could still play because I really enjoy StarCraft, but I feel like some of the cheating problems in this league still persist. Sometimes it's difficult for me to express myself because I feel like the community of friends I once had in StarCraft is rejecting me. I know I cheated, but it still hurts, and I'm only human. Sometimes I lash out at others because of the way I feel. I also enjoy alcohol, and sometimes consume excessive amounts of it, and say things without thinking, and I'm working on that (not really but haha). I don't expect you guys to take me back or forgive me. What I did was wrong, but I still feel like I need to say something about this because giraffes."
3. But seriously, fuck protoss.
4. You're pretty badass challenging a D-level player to a bo9, can I have your autograph?
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wow 11-15, thats ridicously bad lol.
I ll have more time to play from October onwards, then this will change. But I have to say, I always have to play the good players in this league, I think most of my losses are to guys like Shuruken, Babo, (Obelisco), aeghrur, CityShuffle etc.
But still dissapointing. ;d
Especially the 0-1 to Babo. How can I lose to such a noob, lol! ^^^^^^^^
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Hm. Interestingly, the D ranked leagues have been going on long enough that even if no-one ladders, you could basically figure out if they would have reached C using the iccup system. Or if you prefer calculating the individual and teamleague separately.
So (1000 + games won * 100) - (Games lost *50)
Calculating a few at random, there are a couple that bump over 3000, but there is a greater number that would be on the very top end of D+, but would no doubt be C- in the next season once the first batch were gone. Of course there is the problem with feeding the bottom if we promote players into C. Then again how bad is the attrition in the D/D- if they are consistently matched up against potential C- players?
Theoretically, you could have the current system for letting people into the D league, but use the iCCup ranking system to keep people in the D league (or promote them.) At the very least it moves away from the subjective "I beat this person, but this person is beat by this person who beats me," repeat ad naseum.
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On September 10 2013 15:24 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 12:35 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 12:29 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please. Hmm. Considering you tried to smurf into the league after getting banned, continuously posting in this thread whinning about Echo being better than you, AND multi-PMing RedAxis, begging to count your "3-0" walkover win over Gaoxi, sounds like caring to me. 1) Smurfing into the league was of course a despicable act that was committed due to jetlag in Thailand. It was for the lulz. 2) Posting in this thread whining about echo being better than me - I do not lose or gain anything from saying the things I say. I just wanted to motivate him; even if its not fun for him, it is clear that he is better than me and most people who are in this league, including you and many other "C-" players. I'm trying to convince him that it is worth it to ladder to test your worth as a player. 3) There was no walk-over, I PM'd because I didn't want to make a publicly huge deal of the fact that Gao lost 3-0, and has henceforth dodged me at every opportunity stating something along the lines of "fuck protoss." I didn't want to be inflammatory or to single him out, considering, like I said, "It's not my place..." The fact that I spend 60 seconds while drunk typing things does not equate to my excessive amount of caring for "D"R anymore. I am just stating opinions,. 4) Sick dodge. 1. I'm only typing this because it's quarter-moon and this greatly decreases my wolf-powers. 2. Here's what you should do instead of trying to talk echOne into playing: "Guys, I really was upset because I feel as though people are clearly cheating in the D-ranks tours, and because of that, I was like 'Okay, if they're going to be allowed to cheat, then fuck it, I'll give them a taste of their own medicine.' and that was really wrong of me. The truth is, I really like the D-ranks tours and wish I could still play because I really enjoy StarCraft, but I feel like some of the cheating problems in this league still persist. Sometimes it's difficult for me to express myself because I feel like the community of friends I once had in StarCraft is rejecting me. I know I cheated, but it still hurts, and I'm only human. Sometimes I lash out at others because of the way I feel. I also enjoy alcohol, and sometimes consume excessive amounts of it, and say things without thinking, and I'm working on that (not really but haha). I don't expect you guys to take me back or forgive me. What I did was wrong, but I still feel like I need to say something about this because giraffes." 3. But seriously, fuck protoss. 4. You're pretty badass challenging a D-level player to a bo9, can I have your autograph?
Nina can I be your fanclub president? (If Draw is; I'll take VP). This is by far one of the funniest, most insightful posts I've ever read. I laughed my ass off hahaha xD Thank you. The alcohol line is so fucking true and I know I didn't tell anyone on TL that I was trying to quit drinking, or at least quit drinking heavily daily, but failing miserably at it LOL You made my day/week/month I don't even...
Seriously though, whaaaaat. Much much newfound respect for you Nina.
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On September 10 2013 16:50 Falling wrote:
Hm. Interestingly, the D ranked leagues have been going on long enough that even if no-one ladders, you could basically figure out if they would have reached C using the iccup system. Or if you prefer calculating the individual and teamleague separately.
So (1000 + games won * 100) - (Games lost *50)
Calculating a few at random, there are a couple that bump over 3000, but there is a greater number that would be on the very top end of D+, but would no doubt be C- in the next season once the first batch were gone. Of course there is the problem with feeding the bottom if we promote players into C. Then again how bad is the attrition in the D/D- if they are consistently matched up against potential C- players?
Theoretically, you could have the current system for letting people into the D league, but use the iCCup ranking system to keep people in the D league (or promote them.) At the very least it moves away from the subjective "I beat this person, but this person is beat by this person who beats me," repeat ad naseum.
1000 + wins*100 - losses*50
Prophecy 5250
BaBo 4750
Artanis 4250
Sentenal 3650
Obelisco 3700
Shuruken 3550
Arca(Crema) 2850
mSj[uRound] 2950
RedAxis 2850
TheMarine 2100 (and he hits C)
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CityShuffle 2800 (20-4)
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DNH 2100 (14-6)
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xkcd 350 (3-19)
Interesting approach! Although truly this is an inaccurate method of calculation/conjecture using an already flawed rank system, the numbers do sorta speak for themselves.
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this isnt really different from what i expected to see tbh.
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Mellial 5-8 ... Wow I really left the league on a bad note, didn't I?
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 10 2013 19:33 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 15:24 ninazerg wrote:On September 10 2013 12:35 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 12:29 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:
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Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please. Hmm. Considering you tried to smurf into the league after getting banned, continuously posting in this thread whinning about Echo being better than you, AND multi-PMing RedAxis, begging to count your "3-0" walkover win over Gaoxi, sounds like caring to me. 1) Smurfing into the league was of course a despicable act that was committed due to jetlag in Thailand. It was for the lulz. 2) Posting in this thread whining about echo being better than me - I do not lose or gain anything from saying the things I say. I just wanted to motivate him; even if its not fun for him, it is clear that he is better than me and most people who are in this league, including you and many other "C-" players. I'm trying to convince him that it is worth it to ladder to test your worth as a player. 3) There was no walk-over, I PM'd because I didn't want to make a publicly huge deal of the fact that Gao lost 3-0, and has henceforth dodged me at every opportunity stating something along the lines of "fuck protoss." I didn't want to be inflammatory or to single him out, considering, like I said, "It's not my place..." The fact that I spend 60 seconds while drunk typing things does not equate to my excessive amount of caring for "D"R anymore. I am just stating opinions,. 4) Sick dodge. 1. I'm only typing this because it's quarter-moon and this greatly decreases my wolf-powers. 2. Here's what you should do instead of trying to talk echOne into playing: "Guys, I really was upset because I feel as though people are clearly cheating in the D-ranks tours, and because of that, I was like 'Okay, if they're going to be allowed to cheat, then fuck it, I'll give them a taste of their own medicine.' and that was really wrong of me. The truth is, I really like the D-ranks tours and wish I could still play because I really enjoy StarCraft, but I feel like some of the cheating problems in this league still persist. Sometimes it's difficult for me to express myself because I feel like the community of friends I once had in StarCraft is rejecting me. I know I cheated, but it still hurts, and I'm only human. Sometimes I lash out at others because of the way I feel. I also enjoy alcohol, and sometimes consume excessive amounts of it, and say things without thinking, and I'm working on that (not really but haha). I don't expect you guys to take me back or forgive me. What I did was wrong, but I still feel like I need to say something about this because giraffes." 3. But seriously, fuck protoss. 4. You're pretty badass challenging a D-level player to a bo9, can I have your autograph? Nina can I be your fanclub president? (If Draw is; I'll take VP). This is by far one of the funniest, most insightful posts I've ever read. I laughed my ass off hahaha xD Thank you. The alcohol line is so fucking true and I know I didn't tell anyone on TL that I was trying to quit drinking, or at least quit drinking heavily daily, but failing miserably at it LOL You made my day/week/month I don't even... Seriously though, whaaaaat. Much much newfound respect for you Nina.
Babo causing drama...
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Having a promotional system would be great, especially if there were specific leagues for different tiers of skill, from DRTL for D-rankers, CRTL for C-rankers, something like BRTL or Gambit's Cup specifically meant for B-rankers, and Teamliquid Legacy Starleague meant for the best of the best, and of course, with no minimum limitations in each respective league.
Unfortunately, as long there is no salary and no real incentive to move up in these tiers, it simply wouldn't be possible.
Anyways, as I've said plenty of times before, if people REALLY want to make this a skill-based league, captains and admins should get in a chat, and all talk about whether or not certain players are good enough to be playing for this league, as many players have said that the iCCup system is flawed and too faulty to base skill off of anymore.
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On September 11 2013 00:02 SynC[gm] wrote:
Having a promotional system would be great, especially if there were specific leagues for different tiers of skill, from DRTL for D-rankers, CRTL for C-rankers, something like BRTL or Gambit's Cup specifically meant for B-rankers, and Teamliquid Legacy Starleague meant for the best of the best, and of course, with no minimum limitations in each respective league.
Unfortunately, as long there is no salary and no real incentive to move up in these tiers, it simply wouldn't be possible.
Anyways, as I've said plenty of times before, if people REALLY want to make this a skill-based league, captains and admins should get in a chat, and all talk about whether or not certain players are good enough to be playing for this league, as many players have said that the iCCup system is flawed and too faulty to base skill off of anymore.
Pretty nice idea would be hard to implement but I like it just cuz it's cool and organized...main component would just be having someone organize and run and be god of the organization c:
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^ Or have all the captains be the organizers of every rank league. So the same people run D/C/B and within those organizers different people have different jobs. Person 1 makes OPs, Person 2 sorts replays, Person 3 doles out punishments within a certain strict set of guidelines (same replay/walkover/disconnect rules in every league), Person 4 is in charge of anti-abuse, etc.
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On September 11 2013 05:14 Jealous wrote:
^ Or have all the captains be the organizers of every rank league. So the same people run D/C/B and within those organizers different people have different jobs. Person 1 makes OPs, Person 2 sorts replays, Person 3 doles out punishments within a certain strict set of guidelines (same replay/walkover/disconnect rules in every league), Person 4 is in charge of anti-abuse, etc.
One person can organize an entire league. Just a matter of the personal obligations and events they have that would hinder the league. chrisolo did a good job at showing that it could be done in DRATL.
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On September 10 2013 19:33 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2013 15:24 ninazerg wrote:On September 10 2013 12:35 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 12:29 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:44 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 11:12 Sentenal wrote:On September 08 2013 16:27 Birdie wrote:
Yeah ImAtTheBeach, KingGeedorah, and NewJetCity were all high rank players smurfing, I don't think any of their games should count. What about when I beat the shit out of Minister in DRTL? That should count as bonus points, right? On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:On September 10 2013 07:51 Dazed_Spy wrote:
We really should just change the rules to reflect reality. It seems a little bit weird where everyone is a liiitle bit hum about how good they are, lol. Not to mention, if you desire to follow the rules accurately, theres an obligation to step out even though your around fairly even competition that refuses to self-regulate the same way. Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? As if that was ever in doubt. Hes probably still mad that I raped his B- smurfing friend in DRTL4. On September 10 2013 11:43 Sentenal wrote:On September 10 2013 11:42 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 10:24 Nagisama wrote:On September 10 2013 10:11 Jealous wrote:On September 10 2013 08:44 Birdie wrote:
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Yeah the whole leaving it up to the person to decide thing obviously isn't working. I'll be leaving D ranks events after this season because I'll be working on my ZvT; my ZvZ and ZvP are borderline C- and the only Protoss in the league who can consistently beat me is prophecy_ (that I know of). And he's too strong for D ranks too. I'd venture to say L_Master is too good; I don't know enough about the Terrans but it wouldn't surprise me if there are others too. And the truth is sB is going to have a hard season because most of our players are legitimate D and D- and barely D+ players, with icedraco and I being the exceptions, and we're both essentially C- players. But it shouldn't be that legitimately D ranked teams are struggling in the DRTL. People who are too good and could definitely hold C- or hit C, in my opinion: prophecy_ arb (if he can dodge PvT) L_Master CityShuffle Shuruken (stop dodging vP and stop pretending that we never played DRIT1 3rd/4th) RedAxis (might be just his TvP but it's ridiculously solid) KaiGreene (solid C- at least) Aeghrur (Probably C in ZvP) Miss.Click (This is a biased opinion because I have seen her rape so many people including myself but seriously, what THE FUCK? Kills everyone I've seen while obsing, including myself. Her stats are something like 4-1 TvP vs me, 1-0 PvP, 2 or 3-0 ZvP)...Confirmed to C- level: icedraco TheMarine (I still don't know how) EDIT: Relatively speaking, still a small number of players. So why is Sentenal like 5-0 vs her? Both in PvZ and PvT. If Miss.Click.. beats you TvP, but Sentenal beats Miss.Click.. PvT, does that mean Sentenal > you? I opened my Miss.Click argument with "this is a biased opinion..." Maybe she is just bad vs 10/15 players who bank 7k minerals of 2 base, who knows. Sounds like a problem of skill on your part if you can't come up with a winning strategy. Why would I be mad about you winning vs a person who played offrace and at one point decided to add a machine shop to every one of his factories? You REALLY think I care about ANYTHING to do with you or D ranks after what's happened? LOL. Come see me in a Bo9 if you want to talk shit, please. Hmm. Considering you tried to smurf into the league after getting banned, continuously posting in this thread whinning about Echo being better than you, AND multi-PMing RedAxis, begging to count your "3-0" walkover win over Gaoxi, sounds like caring to me. 1) Smurfing into the league was of course a despicable act that was committed due to jetlag in Thailand. It was for the lulz. 2) Posting in this thread whining about echo being better than me - I do not lose or gain anything from saying the things I say. I just wanted to motivate him; even if its not fun for him, it is clear that he is better than me and most people who are in this league, including you and many other "C-" players. I'm trying to convince him that it is worth it to ladder to test your worth as a player. 3) There was no walk-over, I PM'd because I didn't want to make a publicly huge deal of the fact that Gao lost 3-0, and has henceforth dodged me at every opportunity stating something along the lines of "fuck protoss." I didn't want to be inflammatory or to single him out, considering, like I said, "It's not my place..." The fact that I spend 60 seconds while drunk typing things does not equate to my excessive amount of caring for "D"R anymore. I am just stating opinions,. 4) Sick dodge. 1. I'm only typing this because it's quarter-moon and this greatly decreases my wolf-powers. 2. Here's what you should do instead of trying to talk echOne into playing: "Guys, I really was upset because I feel as though people are clearly cheating in the D-ranks tours, and because of that, I was like 'Okay, if they're going to be allowed to cheat, then fuck it, I'll give them a taste of their own medicine.' and that was really wrong of me. The truth is, I really like the D-ranks tours and wish I could still play because I really enjoy StarCraft, but I feel like some of the cheating problems in this league still persist. Sometimes it's difficult for me to express myself because I feel like the community of friends I once had in StarCraft is rejecting me. I know I cheated, but it still hurts, and I'm only human. Sometimes I lash out at others because of the way I feel. I also enjoy alcohol, and sometimes consume excessive amounts of it, and say things without thinking, and I'm working on that (not really but haha). I don't expect you guys to take me back or forgive me. What I did was wrong, but I still feel like I need to say something about this because giraffes." 3. But seriously, fuck protoss. 4. You're pretty badass challenging a D-level player to a bo9, can I have your autograph? Nina can I be your fanclub president? (If Draw is; I'll take VP). This is by far one of the funniest, most insightful posts I've ever read. I laughed my ass off hahaha xD Thank you. The alcohol line is so fucking true and I know I didn't tell anyone on TL that I was trying to quit drinking, or at least quit drinking heavily daily, but failing miserably at it LOL You made my day/week/month I don't even... Seriously though, whaaaaat. Much much newfound respect for you Nina.
Took you long enough to realize Nina can be insightful, AND damn funny. 
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This will be updated after DRTL 5 Round 1 ends.
Also, planning on updating those with more than 30 games played with stats regarding how they do in matchups.
And another also... We'll get to see KaiGreene and TheMarine's head-to-head score.
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KazeHydra should get an award
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On October 05 2013 13:39 traceurling wrote:
KazeHydra should get an award
I am the worst player in the history of D-ranks after all.
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On October 05 2013 13:42 KazeHydra wrote:I am the worst player in the history of D-ranks after all.
But you are the most consistent. Better than most people who dropped out still
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On October 05 2013 13:42 KazeHydra wrote:I am the worst player in the history of D-ranks after all.
I'll race for the bottom. I believe I am on a 0-5 losing streak currently. maybe it is 0-6.
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United Kingdom12023 Posts
Out of interest, how would one go about getting involved/joining one of these teams? I looked in the main thread and either I'm blind or there was no info on it.
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Canada11368 Posts
You should definitely join. I think we're about to wrap up our first 7 week period and teams can add to their number during this time. Before there was a bit of a draft for loose players. Now I'm not sure. sb was short a couple players, but we picked some extra up I think. I'm pretty sure Ace was pretty low on available players.
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On October 08 2013 07:18 Qikz wrote:
Out of interest, how would one go about getting involved/joining one of these teams? I looked in the main thread and either I'm blind or there was no info on it.
DRTL 5 Official League thread. Just post that you want to play and your race, max rank, and ICCup ID
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Updated OP with recent rankings and stats. Updated until DRTL 5 Round 1.
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woot, never knew I had positive stats. maybe I do have what it takes to become a bw pro after all! 8)
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Nicely done.
Could be more accurate if there was an accurate record of earlier DRTLs.
For example, I'm (voodooscience) actually 1-4, not 0-2. (I went 1-2 in DRTL S1, and 0-2 in DRIT 6)
And guess from whom that 1 win came from.
None other than the DRIT champ essbee. YEAH!!!
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Canada11368 Posts
Kaze you have been dethroned. All hail, the (new) king of the losers.
(Although granted, my losing streak doesn't quite match yours yet.)
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On October 27 2013 00:00 Falling wrote:
Kaze you have been dethroned. All hail, the (new) king of the losers.
(Although granted, my losing streak doesn't quite match yours yet.)
lol I am no longer worst of the worst!
I'd argue taking ~10 months to get a win is also part of my legacy. If I played more games, I'd have a bigger losing streak!
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On October 26 2013 23:34 don_kyuhote wrote:
Nicely done.
Could be more accurate if there was an accurate record of earlier DRTLs.
For example, I'm (voodooscience) actually 1-4, not 0-2. (I went 1-2 in DRTL S1, and 0-2 in DRIT 6)
And guess from whom that 1 win came from.
None other than the DRIT champ essbee. YEAH!!!
Yeah, I'm still hoping I can get a time when I'm completely free and dig through the DRTL 1 and DRTL 2 threads and see if there are any results I can use. I'm also looking to get matchup stats going sometime soon.
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^You could note how I was shit in DRTL 1 and became a TvZ mastermind and raped every zerg in DRTL2.
But alas, BW is too wrist intensive for me these days so I'm probably the worst player here ;O
I suppose it's not my place to say either because towards the end of season 2 I was fairly evenly matched with babo...
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My record is absolutely atrocious ._.
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Will be updating this after DRTL Season 5 Round 2 and DRIT 7's stats are all out.
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Updated the Top10 and full rankings up to DRTL 5 Round 2.
Haven't gone through DRIT 7 and DRIT 8, since DRIT 7 went unfinished and DRIT 8 is currently ongoing.
Just noticed that my +/- is +14 when it should be +17... I'll fix it later.. >.>
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You are also missing TheShimmy's showmatch series for DR.
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Man how did Echo play in so many more games than I did? Maybe its the DRITs.
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Canada11368 Posts
Oh wait. DRIT 7 never finished? 
They need to complete that. I'd actually move out of the bottom once those two DRIT's get included.
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DRIT7 never finished? Was 7 the first one that went with the "true d-rank" rule thing?
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TLADT24920 Posts
this is pretty cool SynC. Love how well it's laid out. Looks good!
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Canada11368 Posts
Yeah, our statistic rankings looks more pro then our players. Great work Sync keeping this up to date.
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On February 27 2014 16:36 Falling wrote:
Yeah, our statistic rankings looks more pro then our players. Great work Sync keeping this up to date.
lol that burn
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can't seem to find myself on that list although I participated in DRTL 1&2
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On February 27 2014 16:36 Falling wrote:
Yeah, our statistic rankings looks more pro then our players. Great work Sync keeping this up to date.
Hahaha yeah this is too legit Any chance we can get it in text so we can search rather than just an image?
Thanks Sync
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On February 27 2014 16:38 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 16:36 Falling wrote:
Yeah, our statistic rankings looks more pro then our players. Great work Sync keeping this up to date. lol that burn
It's alright if I self-immolate, right?
On February 27 2014 16:46 HeaDStrong wrote:
can't seem to find myself on that list although I participated in DRTL 1&2
I believe this is what is at issue:
Keep in mind that I'm basically going off by whatever is in Liquipedia, and as the records for DRTL 1 and 2 are pretty lacking, what you see is what you get.
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On February 27 2014 16:49 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 16:38 BigFan wrote:On February 27 2014 16:36 Falling wrote:
Yeah, our statistic rankings looks more pro then our players. Great work Sync keeping this up to date. lol that burn It's alright if I self-immolate, right? Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 16:46 HeaDStrong wrote:
can't seem to find myself on that list although I participated in DRTL 1&2 I believe this is what is at issue: Show nested quote +Keep in mind that I'm basically going off by whatever is in Liquipedia, and as the records for DRTL 1 and 2 are pretty lacking, what you see is what you get.
ah yeah I saw that after I posted. Too bad. Those were some good seasons with the only drama being no shows, walkovers and delicious cheese.
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I'll try my best to dig through the actual threads of DRTL 1 and DRTL 2, but that'll take a TON of time and I'll get to it when I have enough time and isn't swamped by school work.
On February 27 2014 14:21 Sentenal wrote:
Man how did Echo play in so many more games than I did? Maybe its the DRITs.
He played a total of 9 games during Round 2, and won all of them. Went 9-0 during Round 2, including the 2 wins from the Bo3 in the finals.
On February 27 2014 12:56 Jealous wrote:
You are also missing TheShimmy's showmatch series for DR.
I just found the thread you were talking about, called TheShimmy's Showmatch Series? Were the other 3 matchups now completed? I'll try my best to get them all in later.
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On February 27 2014 19:07 SynC[gm] wrote:
I'll try my best to dig through the actual threads of DRTL 1 and DRTL 2, but that'll take a TON of time and I'll get to it when I have enough time and isn't swamped by school work.
I am not sure how you added all the info in the first place but DRTL 1 & 2 threads seem to have well kept OP with updated results.
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United Kingdom12023 Posts
Hopefully you can add DRIT 8 when the finals done since that'll move me up a bit :p
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On February 27 2014 19:12 HeaDStrong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 19:07 SynC[gm] wrote:
I'll try my best to dig through the actual threads of DRTL 1 and DRTL 2, but that'll take a TON of time and I'll get to it when I have enough time and isn't swamped by school work.
I am not sure how you added all the info in the first place but DRTL 1 & 2 threads seem to have well kept OP with updated results.
Well, there were like, 4 series results in Liquipedia for DRTL 1 and DRTL 2. So far, I've been updating all of the DRTL and DRIT results with Liquipedia, since I'm assuming nagisama and others kept up the updates back in the day, but I actually haven't even looked at the DRTL 1/2 threads, so I'll check them out soon to see if the OP has updated results.
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Just as update Biolunar has retired, and i wont be returning to D ranked events. But thanks for updating this info
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Ahh, alright, yeah, if there needs to be something updated like with teams and/or retirement, or if you're not retired and moving up to C-ranks, or you're not moving up to C-ranks and retiring, lemme know.
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On February 27 2014 16:49 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 16:38 BigFan wrote:On February 27 2014 16:36 Falling wrote:
Yeah, our statistic rankings looks more pro then our players. Great work Sync keeping this up to date. lol that burn It's alright if I self-immolate, right? Show nested quote +On February 27 2014 16:46 HeaDStrong wrote:
can't seem to find myself on that list although I participated in DRTL 1&2 I believe this is what is at issue: Show nested quote +Keep in mind that I'm basically going off by whatever is in Liquipedia, and as the records for DRTL 1 and 2 are pretty lacking, what you see is what you get.
self-immolate together then since I'm just as bad? XD Given, I think I would play a lot better now than I was back then but still lol.
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What, Bigfan played in DRTL at some point? Sucks, I don't remember having the chance to have crushed him.
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On February 28 2014 07:52 Rlentless wrote:
Forever in Courage pls.
My girl
lololol
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On February 28 2014 07:27 Sentenal wrote:
What, Bigfan played in DRTL at some point? Sucks, I don't remember having the chance to have crushed him.
ya I played back in August to Sept but had to leave sB. I would've gladly played you then if given the chance. Double factory into GG
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Oh, you were on sB? No way we could have played then. Oh well.
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On February 28 2014 10:21 Sentenal wrote:
Oh, you were on sB? No way we could have played then. Oh well.
ya, I was on it for a short period of time but I enjoyed our practices. Why is that? Wasn't courage part of DRTL or did I miss something?
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I didn't play vs sB, due to major grievances I have with sB's captain.
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On February 28 2014 10:30 Sentenal wrote:
I didn't play vs sB, due to major grievances I have with sB's captain.
oh ok. Ya, now I remember what you're talking about. The whole team split thing. Well, I got drafted into sB or however it was done so I had no options into what teams to go to lol.
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For updating retirees, myself and (as far as I know) Icedraco are both retiring from D ranks.
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Canada11368 Posts
Retiring or going to C-ranks? Sync is making that distinction.
@Sentenal
Didn't you play vs icedraco? Or was that walkover?
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On February 28 2014 15:55 Falling wrote:
Retiring or going to C-ranks? Sync is making that distinction.
@Sentenal
Didn't you play vs icedraco? Or was that walkover?
Well, I'm PROBABLY retiring, icedraco going C ranks though.
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Highest "-" rating: xkcd [SunKhan] -23
This is quite embarrassing
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On February 28 2014 21:25 amazingxkcd wrote:This is quite embarrassing
Not as embarrassing as quitting or smurfing as a C-/C player.
Also is there a new iteration of DRTL or DRIT coming any time soon? I'd like to give it a try again after the years of inactivity.
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On February 28 2014 21:33 HeaDStrong wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 21:25 amazingxkcd wrote:Highest "-" rating: xkcd [SunKhan] -23 This is quite embarrassing Not as embarrassing as quitting or smurfing as a C-/C player. Also is there a new iteration of DRTL or DRIT coming any time soon? I'd like to give it a try again after the years of inactivity.
I dunno for sure, but I believe Lmaster said that he'll host another DRTL a couple of weeks after DRIT8 ends. Again, not 100% sure, but I believe he said something like that...
On February 21 2014 02:00 L_Master wrote:
I'll be opening the DRTL 6 thread sometime today as well. Signups will likely run about 3 weeks give or take with the season starting in Mid March.
Found a quote from the DRTL5 thread. Keep in mind that he said he'll open the thread on the 21st of February, huehue...
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On March 01 2014 02:01 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 21:33 HeaDStrong wrote:On February 28 2014 21:25 amazingxkcd wrote:Highest "-" rating: xkcd [SunKhan] -23 This is quite embarrassing Not as embarrassing as quitting or smurfing as a C-/C player. Also is there a new iteration of DRTL or DRIT coming any time soon? I'd like to give it a try again after the years of inactivity. I dunno for sure, but I believe Lmaster said that he'll host another DRTL a couple of weeks after DRIT8 ends. Again, not 100% sure, but I believe he said something like that... Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 02:00 L_Master wrote:
I'll be opening the DRTL 6 thread sometime today as well. Signups will likely run about 3 weeks give or take with the season starting in Mid March. Found a quote from the DRTL5 thread. Keep in mind that he said he'll open the thread on the 21st of February, huehue...
I'll ask him. We're still on the same skype group chat we used two years ago when organizing our Team 2. Ahhhh the glory days.
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On March 01 2014 02:01 SynC[gm] wrote:Show nested quote +On February 28 2014 21:33 HeaDStrong wrote:On February 28 2014 21:25 amazingxkcd wrote:Highest "-" rating: xkcd [SunKhan] -23 This is quite embarrassing Not as embarrassing as quitting or smurfing as a C-/C player. Also is there a new iteration of DRTL or DRIT coming any time soon? I'd like to give it a try again after the years of inactivity. I dunno for sure, but I believe Lmaster said that he'll host another DRTL a couple of weeks after DRIT8 ends. Again, not 100% sure, but I believe he said something like that... Show nested quote +On February 21 2014 02:00 L_Master wrote:
I'll be opening the DRTL 6 thread sometime today as well. Signups will likely run about 3 weeks give or take with the season starting in Mid March. Found a quote from the DRTL5 thread. Keep in mind that he said he'll open the thread on the 21st of February, huehue...
Then 4 tests in a week happened. Hopefully I'll get to it tonight. If not...bug me on skype on Saturday XD
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On March 01 2014 09:57 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2014 02:01 SynC[gm] wrote:On February 28 2014 21:33 HeaDStrong wrote:On February 28 2014 21:25 amazingxkcd wrote:Highest "-" rating: xkcd [SunKhan] -23 This is quite embarrassing Not as embarrassing as quitting or smurfing as a C-/C player. Also is there a new iteration of DRTL or DRIT coming any time soon? I'd like to give it a try again after the years of inactivity. I dunno for sure, but I believe Lmaster said that he'll host another DRTL a couple of weeks after DRIT8 ends. Again, not 100% sure, but I believe he said something like that... On February 21 2014 02:00 L_Master wrote:
I'll be opening the DRTL 6 thread sometime today as well. Signups will likely run about 3 weeks give or take with the season starting in Mid March. Found a quote from the DRTL5 thread. Keep in mind that he said he'll open the thread on the 21st of February, huehue... Then 4 tests in a week happened. Hopefully I'll get to it tonight. If not...bug me on skype on Saturday XD
I'm not blaming you, I know you're busy, I'm simply noting what you said to him, since he was expecting to join another DRTL. Oh well, congrats though, for breaking the Top 10, Lmaster ;D
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DRTL 6 will have the same rank restrictions as DRTL 5?
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