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QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
June 10 2021 01:24 GMT
#7781
On June 10 2021 09:30 Highgamer wrote:
Any sign of life from Flash since he went to the army?

He's... in the army. What are you expecting? I mean, he might get some time off and show up on someone's stream eventually, but he just joined.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8490 Posts
June 10 2021 04:48 GMT
#7782
FABULOUS GAME between Larva and Shuttle ! Don't miss this one !

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5185 Posts
June 10 2021 09:31 GMT
#7783
Sick game, thx for sharing. I wonder if there is an obsed version, but then again that would probably be less impressive and exciting.
FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8490 Posts
June 10 2021 14:36 GMT
#7784
MY BRAVE BABY !!!!!!

[image loading]

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-10 16:20:07
June 10 2021 16:08 GMT
#7785
On June 10 2021 10:24 QOGQOG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2021 09:30 Highgamer wrote:
Any sign of life from Flash since he went to the army?

He's... in the army. What are you expecting? I mean, he might get some time off and show up on someone's stream eventually, but he just joined.


Chill dude, I asked for a sign of life, like some short text-message to fans/friends or so, and not a big blog entry or regular live-stream or something...

He's... in the army. What do you think that is in 2021? A black box?

edit: Damn, JD looks fit in that photo xD
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
June 10 2021 16:45 GMT
#7786
On June 11 2021 01:08 Highgamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2021 10:24 QOGQOG wrote:
On June 10 2021 09:30 Highgamer wrote:
Any sign of life from Flash since he went to the army?

He's... in the army. What are you expecting? I mean, he might get some time off and show up on someone's stream eventually, but he just joined.


Chill dude, I asked for a sign of life, like some short text-message to fans/friends or so, and not a big blog entry or regular live-stream or something...

He's... in the army. What do you think that is in 2021? A black box?

edit: Damn, JD looks fit in that photo xD


You will not be able to communicate until after basic training is done.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-10 17:48:05
June 10 2021 17:47 GMT
#7787
On June 11 2021 01:45 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2021 01:08 Highgamer wrote:
On June 10 2021 10:24 QOGQOG wrote:
On June 10 2021 09:30 Highgamer wrote:
Any sign of life from Flash since he went to the army?

He's... in the army. What are you expecting? I mean, he might get some time off and show up on someone's stream eventually, but he just joined.


Chill dude, I asked for a sign of life, like some short text-message to fans/friends or so, and not a big blog entry or regular live-stream or something...

He's... in the army. What do you think that is in 2021? A black box?

edit: Damn, JD looks fit in that photo xD


You will not be able to communicate until after basic training is done.


Ah thx. It's lasts for about a month? So we might hear s.th. in the following week or so.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8490 Posts
June 13 2021 21:59 GMT
#7788
Two ladies with Zero and Light having fun and eating a nice burger mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
June 14 2021 00:04 GMT
#7789
I wish they would bring back fighting spirit next ladder season for this new wave of bw players.

Currently there are about 20+ streamers who are the same age or younger than starcraft (i.e. born 2000, 1999, 1998etc.) creating a interest in the bw streamer scene.

Watching their streams from their pov kind of shows how unfriendly the experience is jumping into the game. They end up playing fs amongst each other because the ladder pool is not noob friendly.

Would be nice if they can keep this interest up and bring in more younger players to the game.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43203 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-14 18:52:56
June 14 2021 18:52 GMT
#7790
Polypoid is simply a more modern iteration of FS. The maps are fine except Plasma and Benzene and Optimizer.

Edit: And Ringing Bloom
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
June 14 2021 19:13 GMT
#7791
On June 15 2021 03:52 KwarK wrote:
Polypoid is simply a more modern iteration of FS. The maps are fine except Plasma and Benzene and Optimizer.

Edit: And Ringing Bloom

I don't think Benzene is all that complicated, no? In fact, the long rush distance may benefit lower level players...
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43203 Posts
June 14 2021 19:28 GMT
#7792
On June 15 2021 04:13 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2021 03:52 KwarK wrote:
Polypoid is simply a more modern iteration of FS. The maps are fine except Plasma and Benzene and Optimizer.

Edit: And Ringing Bloom

I don't think Benzene is all that complicated, no? In fact, the long rush distance may benefit lower level players...

The pathing is godawful due to the way bw treats paths blocked by destructible buildings as viable paths before the buildings have been destroyed.

The bases are extremely exposed to harass play which makes the map a multitasking challenge which is unfriendly to newer players in my opinion.

Additionally the combination of super long rush distances and 2 spawn locations forces you to pick rush/greed early and hope for the best. Protoss can build proxy gates at two hidden locations in your main, at your nat, at your third, and, on one side, above your third. But you'd never want a zealot opener because you can't pressure the other player with those rush distances. I would say Benzene is a map for experienced players only, you need to be familiar with the various different things other players can do to fuck with you and how to play against them. It's very rock paper scissors, defensive openers > cheese openers > greed openers > defensive openers. There's always an element of that on every map but Benzene is considerably worse.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10228 Posts
June 14 2021 20:20 GMT
#7793
On June 15 2021 04:28 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2021 04:13 Jealous wrote:
On June 15 2021 03:52 KwarK wrote:
Polypoid is simply a more modern iteration of FS. The maps are fine except Plasma and Benzene and Optimizer.

Edit: And Ringing Bloom

I don't think Benzene is all that complicated, no? In fact, the long rush distance may benefit lower level players...

The pathing is godawful due to the way bw treats paths blocked by destructible buildings as viable paths before the buildings have been destroyed.

The bases are extremely exposed to harass play which makes the map a multitasking challenge which is unfriendly to newer players in my opinion.

Additionally the combination of super long rush distances and 2 spawn locations forces you to pick rush/greed early and hope for the best. Protoss can build proxy gates at two hidden locations in your main, at your nat, at your third, and, on one side, above your third. But you'd never want a zealot opener because you can't pressure the other player with those rush distances. I would say Benzene is a map for experienced players only, you need to be familiar with the various different things other players can do to fuck with you and how to play against them. It's very rock paper scissors, defensive openers > cheese openers > greed openers > defensive openers. There's always an element of that on every map but Benzene is considerably worse.

Thanks for sharing your perspective!
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-15 01:12:32
June 15 2021 01:12 GMT
#7794
Noobing spirit should be removed from the ladder map pool, permanently. What a terrible and overplayed map. Blizzard pls never put noobing spirit or plasma in the map pool again.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-15 01:42:47
June 15 2021 01:37 GMT
#7795
"Noobing spirit" on which 90% of all games by the remaining top-players were played on for half a decade or so... IIrc Larva for example basically learned a big part of the ins and outs of this game by massing games on that map, lol.
Those times are over, gladly, but self-centered thinking or catering the veterans is not what will make BW survive over time.

I really think a few beginner-friendly, straight-forward maps should be in the pool at all times, at least 2-3 of them, at least over several consecutive seasons to get used to them. You can downvote them if you don't like them. Or maybe we could have different pools on different ranks.
The ladder is not only for people who've played this game for decades and can't see FS or CB any more. Beginners or casuals will profit from it, high-level balance-issues don't matter for them.
Most beginner-guides that are around were written with these kinds of maps in mind, too. Not fancy stuff like double-gas-mains or weirdly positioned thirds or doodad-island-maps.
staatbauhaus
Profile Joined February 2020
99 Posts
June 15 2021 10:21 GMT
#7796
Agree with Highgamer.

10 out of 10 pros who collab'd with these new streamers all tell them to play on fighting spirit. If someone was to be sick and tired of a map, you would think it would be the pros who played thousands of games on fs.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8490 Posts
June 15 2021 10:52 GMT
#7797
FS for life !!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-15 12:10:04
June 15 2021 12:09 GMT
#7798
[image loading]

Damn, something interesting happened just now and I missed it for the most part.

Do they do this regularly or from time to time?
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-15 12:27:20
June 15 2021 12:21 GMT
#7799
On June 14 2021 06:59 prosatan wrote:
Two ladies with Zero and Light having fun and eating a nice burger mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-RlqBBhuq0


ZerO and his GF/waifu look cute together.

Also JD looks sexy on that photo.

On June 15 2021 21:09 Highgamer wrote:
[image loading]

Damn, something interesting happened just now and I missed it for the most part.

Do they do this regularly or from time to time?


Seems like Larva made ghosts to toy with him and then nuked xD Although Eon almost got him but Larva already had ninja base fully operating.
sunbeams are never made like me...
earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-15 13:19:12
June 15 2021 13:18 GMT
#7800
They played like 10 games and eonzerg also took some games. He even almost won the first ZvZ.

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