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duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 10 2016 14:35 GMT
#3041
They also postponed the final to a time when most koreans are working and it's insanely hot in the evening.
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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1920 Posts
September 10 2016 15:28 GMT
#3042
Nov-Dec has the potential to be the amazing. New ASL season. JD officializes his come back to competitive BW. Blizzard reveals BW HD. ShieldBattery sends its 9th beta wave.
Calendaraka Foxhan
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 10 2016 15:32 GMT
#3043
On September 11 2016 00:28 HaN- wrote:
Nov-Dec has the potential to be the amazing. New ASL season. JD officializes his come back to competitive BW. Blizzard reveals BW HD. ShieldBattery sends its 9th beta wave.


And I am again not invited...
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12025 Posts
September 10 2016 15:58 GMT
#3044
On September 11 2016 00:32 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 00:28 HaN- wrote:
Nov-Dec has the potential to be the amazing. New ASL season. JD officializes his come back to competitive BW. Blizzard reveals BW HD. ShieldBattery sends its 9th beta wave.


And I am again not invited...


I'll never get in the shield battery beta. I think that ship sailed for me long ago.
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States347 Posts
September 10 2016 16:53 GMT
#3045
Thought this might be interesting but not thread-worthy. I recorded a decent sample of mostly D rank PvT games on iccup and tracked my opponent's opening and midgame build order. Build order isn't as consistent at these ranks since ppl do all kinds of weird shit, but the openings are pretty consistent.[image loading]
As you can see, Iccup terrans open with FD the most at about 40 percent, siege expand about 20 percent, 2 fact 13 percent, and Rax FE 10 percent. So you only really have to worry about weird openings in 1 in 5 games and I'd imagine even less as you play B rank and above. Would be interesting to see something similar from the Protoss perspective- i'd imagine they'd open with a much greater diversity of builds.
RoomOfMush
Profile Joined March 2015
1296 Posts
September 10 2016 17:25 GMT
#3046
On September 11 2016 00:32 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 00:28 HaN- wrote:
Nov-Dec has the potential to be the amazing. New ASL season. JD officializes his come back to competitive BW. Blizzard reveals BW HD. ShieldBattery sends its 9th beta wave.


And I am again not invited...

I signed up just now and immediately got an invite. I am horrible at the game though so I guess not much of a win for SB.
toriak
Profile Joined December 2008
Slovakia477 Posts
September 10 2016 17:43 GMT
#3047
On September 11 2016 01:53 f10eqq wrote:
Thought this might be interesting but not thread-worthy. I recorded a decent sample of mostly D rank PvT games on iccup and tracked my opponent's opening and midgame build order. Build order isn't as consistent at these ranks since ppl do all kinds of weird shit, but the openings are pretty consistent.[image loading]
As you can see, Iccup terrans open with FD the most at about 40 percent, siege expand about 20 percent, 2 fact 13 percent, and Rax FE 10 percent. So you only really have to worry about weird openings in 1 in 5 games and I'd imagine even less as you play B rank and above. Would be interesting to see something similar from the Protoss perspective- i'd imagine they'd open with a much greater diversity of builds.


how big is the sample ?
FD = fast dropship ?
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-10 17:53:44
September 10 2016 17:53 GMT
#3048
Fake double http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/FD_(vs._Protoss)
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
B-royal
Profile Joined May 2015
Belgium1330 Posts
September 10 2016 18:25 GMT
#3049
On September 11 2016 02:43 toriak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2016 01:53 f10eqq wrote:
Thought this might be interesting but not thread-worthy. I recorded a decent sample of mostly D rank PvT games on iccup and tracked my opponent's opening and midgame build order. Build order isn't as consistent at these ranks since ppl do all kinds of weird shit, but the openings are pretty consistent.[image loading]
As you can see, Iccup terrans open with FD the most at about 40 percent, siege expand about 20 percent, 2 fact 13 percent, and Rax FE 10 percent. So you only really have to worry about weird openings in 1 in 5 games and I'd imagine even less as you play B rank and above. Would be interesting to see something similar from the Protoss perspective- i'd imagine they'd open with a much greater diversity of builds.


how big is the sample ?
FD = fast dropship ?


Lol FD = fake double.
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Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5224 Posts
September 10 2016 22:07 GMT
#3050
I miss the glory days of TLPD!!
Remember when you could just go there and search a player, tournament or map and wonderfully list all that juicy info.
It was so wonderful! You could list winstreaks, match ups, etc. It had VODs too and it even an anti-spoiler.

It fucking aggravates to no end that there is put in so much work into Liquipedia daily, but yet doesn't offer any of that juicy search and listing that TLPD did. I remember checking out all those stats on all my favourite players back in the KeSPA-era weekly. It would really hype me to see how close (T)Flash was to beating (T)iloveoov's godly TvZ winstreak during his own hot streak. Checking out (Z)Jaedong's vZ rate. Or calculate if (P)Bisu would break into the 70+% winrate vs Z on his next win vs Z. Man, I remember checking out (P)Stork and finding out he had a postive win-loss ratio vs every single top dog. How cool is that?!

I loathe how Liquipedia destroyed that. Mad props to anyone who contributed in keeping TLPD up to date back then, you guys really made my TL experience a great joy.
FBH #1!
prech
Profile Joined March 2014
United States2948 Posts
September 11 2016 01:47 GMT
#3051
^^Not sure what you mean exactly, I update TLPD after every round of tournament play.

There just aren't enough tournaments to build a big dataset of various individual match-ups. TLPD is pretty darned cumbersome for data entry, so there are relatively few editors, but regardless, all the KeSPA and post-KeSPA tournaments (competitions with >8 progamers) are documented.



Liquipedia
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5224 Posts
September 11 2016 02:19 GMT
#3052
On September 11 2016 10:47 prech wrote:
^^Not sure what you mean exactly, I update TLPD after every round of tournament play.

There just aren't enough tournaments to build a big dataset of various individual match-ups. TLPD is pretty darned cumbersome for data entry, so there are relatively few editors, but regardless, all the KeSPA and post-KeSPA tournaments (competitions with >8 progamers) are documented.




Really? I could have sworn every time I checked last year I found it was out of date (expect for maybe some random updates)... so I stopped using it all together. I must be way delusional.
Thx for your reply!
FBH #1!
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
September 11 2016 16:08 GMT
#3053
Getting this message for a lot (but not all) of the Afreeca steams, Do I need to make an account or something?

[image loading]
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
September 11 2016 16:21 GMT
#3054
On September 12 2016 01:08 Jonoman92 wrote:
Getting this message for a lot (but not all) of the Afreeca steams, Do I need to make an account or something?

[image loading]


yeah you'd have to make an account, although I'm not sure how, but it means that they set their stream to 19+.

they're probably drinking on stream, doubt they're actually playing games too.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19307 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-14 20:38:37
September 11 2016 20:45 GMT
#3055
On September 11 2016 01:53 f10eqq wrote:
Thought this might be interesting but not thread-worthy. I recorded a decent sample of mostly D rank PvT games on iccup and tracked my opponent's opening and midgame build order. Build order isn't as consistent at these ranks since ppl do all kinds of weird shit, but the openings are pretty consistent.[image loading]
As you can see, Iccup terrans open with FD the most at about 40 percent, siege expand about 20 percent, 2 fact 13 percent, and Rax FE 10 percent. So you only really have to worry about weird openings in 1 in 5 games and I'd imagine even less as you play B rank and above. Would be interesting to see something similar from the Protoss perspective- i'd imagine they'd open with a much greater diversity of builds.

This is terrible for colorblind people! All i see is that 39% of terran build orders were scv rushes!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
September 14 2016 17:55 GMT
#3056
Nice to see brood war going strong these days.

Throughout my experience in watching various e-sports I have found that one of the most fascinating things to watch is **First Person View of Brood War**. I would really enjoy it if having a **First Person View** became standard at all major tournaments. Cheers!

Now to go watch some **First Person View** on afreeca streams
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
September 14 2016 18:07 GMT
#3057
On September 15 2016 02:55 mishimaBeef wrote:
Nice to see brood war going strong these days.

Throughout my experience in watching various e-sports I have found that one of the most fascinating things to watch is **First Person View of Brood War**. I would really enjoy it if having a **First Person View** became standard at all major tournaments. Cheers!

Now to go watch some **First Person View** on afreeca streams


mbc studio iirc used to have fpv feeds on the side of their stage.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
September 14 2016 18:09 GMT
#3058
On September 15 2016 03:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 02:55 mishimaBeef wrote:
Nice to see brood war going strong these days.

Throughout my experience in watching various e-sports I have found that one of the most fascinating things to watch is **First Person View of Brood War**. I would really enjoy it if having a **First Person View** became standard at all major tournaments. Cheers!

Now to go watch some **First Person View** on afreeca streams


mbc studio iirc used to have fpv feeds on the side of their stage.


Cool! Were those feeds released as streams or vods on the Internet?
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
September 14 2016 18:20 GMT
#3059
On September 15 2016 03:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 02:55 mishimaBeef wrote:
Nice to see brood war going strong these days.

Throughout my experience in watching various e-sports I have found that one of the most fascinating things to watch is **First Person View of Brood War**. I would really enjoy it if having a **First Person View** became standard at all major tournaments. Cheers!

Now to go watch some **First Person View** on afreeca streams


mbc studio iirc used to have fpv feeds on the side of their stage.

Oh never heard of that. That's probably how they recorded Show Me The MSL
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
September 14 2016 19:53 GMT
#3060
On September 15 2016 03:20 McRatyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2016 03:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
On September 15 2016 02:55 mishimaBeef wrote:
Nice to see brood war going strong these days.

Throughout my experience in watching various e-sports I have found that one of the most fascinating things to watch is **First Person View of Brood War**. I would really enjoy it if having a **First Person View** became standard at all major tournaments. Cheers!

Now to go watch some **First Person View** on afreeca streams


mbc studio iirc used to have fpv feeds on the side of their stage.

Oh never heard of that. That's probably how they recorded Show Me The MSL


I remember watching Mingu fpvods and noting every single detail. Very educational
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