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Hwasin Apologizes for Match Fixing - Page 2

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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 23 2013 01:24 GMT
#21
I was never able to be as consequentialist about the scenario as many others have been. Feel pretty bad for hwasin and hope he's able to find his own path in life.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
TylerThaCreator
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States906 Posts
August 23 2013 01:35 GMT
#22
On August 23 2013 09:44 Antisocialmunky wrote:
I wish I could see Hwasin play again...

Show nested quote +

Q: In those difficult times, what words made you feel the worst?

A: There are no BW leagues now, even today it just doesn't feel real to me. But the words that make me feel the worst are "The ball that was passed down by so many seniors was lost in an instant in the hands of people like you."Regardless of whether this is true, it was because of my instantaneous error and personal ignorance that caused these accusations, they make me feel very difficult.


:[


Yeah that quote had a huge impact on me out of this interview, that feeling must have been terrible when he heard that.
aka SethN
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 23 2013 01:37 GMT
#23
--- Nuked ---
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51679 Posts
August 23 2013 01:39 GMT
#24
On August 23 2013 08:47 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
was hwasin involved in 1 sunken no ring as well? i think it was yarnc or luxury and him


him and calm at ief 2008 (?) in china
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 23 2013 01:45 GMT
#25
On August 23 2013 10:37 krndandaman wrote:
he seems truly remorseful. hope he leads a good life from now on.
savior seems more and more evil the more I hear about him...

ya. Went from someone who played a role to the evil mastermind :O
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
August 23 2013 01:46 GMT
#26
It's sad to hear his military life was tough on him too. 21 and everyone being so mean to you, really a rough spot to be in. It's good that he has made improvements and is being earnest now.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
August 23 2013 02:05 GMT
#27
on today of all days, he can go cry me a river
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 02:16:08
August 23 2013 02:15 GMT
#28
On August 23 2013 11:05 itsjustatank wrote:
on today of all days, he can go cry me a river


where did that come from, because this interview could have happened like any time in the past weeks >_>

On August 23 2013 09:55 s.Q.uelched wrote:
Since when may fomos content be posted on TL again? Pretty sure it isn't allowed...


Chinese websites dgaf, also I'm Chinese so I think that qualifies :3 but fine I will remove photos
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ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
August 23 2013 02:20 GMT
#29
Does anyone know if the online betting companies that approached these players about throwing their matches for money get punished? I know the players have, but what about these online betting companies that facilitated it?
Don't mind me
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
August 23 2013 02:23 GMT
#30
On August 23 2013 11:15 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 11:05 itsjustatank wrote:
on today of all days, he can go cry me a river


where did that come from, because this interview could have happened like any time in the past weeks >_>



Q: In those difficult times, what words made you feel the worst?

A: There are no BW leagues now, even today it just doesn't feel real to me. But the words that make me feel the worst are "The ball that was passed down by so many seniors was lost in an instant in the hands of people like you.


this is where im coming from. his crying and affected remorse about how his life has gone so poorly since then garners zero sympathy from me
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 23 2013 02:37 GMT
#31
I hope all matchfixing players will come out like this someday and tell us how fucked up their lives are. I hope they are really fucked up.
Hwasin has done his part I guess. The part where he couldnt come to the stadium, got despised in the army or worked manual labor are really hard
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
August 23 2013 02:59 GMT
#32
I respect Hwasin.
We have all failed before, and likely will fail again.
Rather than someone to be reviled, I will remember Hwasin for what he did the past, and what he is doing now to be a better person.
I don't hold it against anyone hasn't forgiven him, but consider him the next time you fail.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
August 23 2013 03:10 GMT
#33
On August 23 2013 11:37 Arceus wrote:
I hope all matchfixing players will come out like this someday and tell us how fucked up their lives are. I hope they are really fucked up.
Hwasin has done his part I guess. The part where he couldnt come to the stadium, got despised in the army or worked manual labor are really hard


are you seriously ? you want a guy to end his life becose he threw a couple of games ?
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
August 23 2013 03:16 GMT
#34
On August 23 2013 11:23 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 11:15 Caihead wrote:
On August 23 2013 11:05 itsjustatank wrote:
on today of all days, he can go cry me a river


where did that come from, because this interview could have happened like any time in the past weeks >_>


Show nested quote +

Q: In those difficult times, what words made you feel the worst?

A: There are no BW leagues now, even today it just doesn't feel real to me. But the words that make me feel the worst are "The ball that was passed down by so many seniors was lost in an instant in the hands of people like you.


this is where im coming from. his crying and affected remorse about how his life has gone so poorly since then garners zero sympathy from me


I don't think he was looking for sympathy, he's looking for empathy and understanding. What would you rather him do when asked a question like that? Lie and say "Everything made me feel terrible" or "Nothing because I deserved it all" so the people reading the interview who wish terrible things upon others would get a sense of twisted satisfaction from it? Give me a break. If you don't believe in redemption and reconciliation then humanity is doomed because nobody goes through life with out making some major mistakes either accidentally or in ignorance.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
August 23 2013 03:20 GMT
#35
I'd rather him go away and never surface again.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
theMagus
Profile Joined February 2013
578 Posts
August 23 2013 03:21 GMT
#36
we're all stupid at that age in different ways. i'm glad he realized his mistake and is truly remorseful. glad he's doing well too
"Give away the stone. Let the oceans take and transmutate this cold and fated anchor. Let the waters kiss and transmutate these leaden grudges into gold. Let go."
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
August 23 2013 03:37 GMT
#37
I feel like I can forgive Hwasin, but I can't forgive sAviOr for what he did to BroodWar in Korea.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-23 03:44:44
August 23 2013 03:43 GMT
#38
Definitely enjoyed watching the Red Sniper... him and Upmagic... (well and Savior...)
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
August 23 2013 04:17 GMT
#39
On August 23 2013 11:23 itsjustatank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 11:15 Caihead wrote:
On August 23 2013 11:05 itsjustatank wrote:
on today of all days, he can go cry me a river


where did that come from, because this interview could have happened like any time in the past weeks >_>


Show nested quote +

Q: In those difficult times, what words made you feel the worst?

A: There are no BW leagues now, even today it just doesn't feel real to me. But the words that make me feel the worst are "The ball that was passed down by so many seniors was lost in an instant in the hands of people like you.


this is where im coming from. his crying and affected remorse about how his life has gone so poorly since then garners zero sympathy from me

I have a feeling that something was lost in translation. I doubt anyone would make such a snide remark.
☺
castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada787 Posts
August 23 2013 04:24 GMT
#40
i felt that everything he said was really sincere and i hope the best for him
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