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-Ba`alzamon-
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden602 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-23 07:53:34
May 23 2003 07:53 GMT
#1
Well i heard something about it like a month ago, didnt know the rep was out

For you who dont chech replays.net etc, here it is, KPGA game with 50 gates >.<

http://www.gamingeye.com/demos/eyecode/laddaned.eye?game=1&id=4600&ext=rep

Thx Dealer ^_^!
iloveeliza
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33502 Posts
May 23 2003 07:53 GMT
#2
nada > foru ;D
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
-Ba`alzamon-
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden602 Posts
May 23 2003 07:54 GMT
#3
schhh!
iloveeliza
Wannasee
Profile Joined October 2002
United States175 Posts
May 23 2003 07:57 GMT
#4
it is 1.09b, right? ^^
O_o?
-Ba`alzamon-
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden602 Posts
May 23 2003 07:58 GMT
#5
On May 23 2003 16:57 Wannasee wrote:
it is 1.09b, right? ^^


yeah but no zerg player so np?
iloveeliza
halpmeh
Profile Joined October 2002
United States333 Posts
May 23 2003 08:55 GMT
#6
worst game i've ever seen

forU should retire
halp meh halp yuo
Zorglub
Profile Joined October 2002
Denmark313 Posts
May 23 2003 09:07 GMT
#7
That is many gates? yes?

forU threw it away severel times.....
VitaleTerran
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada34 Posts
May 23 2003 09:25 GMT
#8
"that is many gates? yes?
LOL?
nice boxer variation. i actually had the pooertunity of using Boxers l;ine a couple of weeks ago. I rolled over a Protoss player with about 150 supply of tanks
The best defense is a good offence.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
May 23 2003 13:08 GMT
#9
... oh, my, God. This is probably the saddest "professional" game that I have ever seen. Foru's position was that of a strategist's dream. Heck, he could've even MCed an SCV and teched to tanks and BCs if he wanted to. But, rather than exercise the strategic options that were open to him, he decided to just naively throw his units at Nada's fortifications -.-;; . Furthermore, was it really that hard to take out his island? Not to mention his other poor decisions after dominating the map with excellent play...

Wow, foru really threw this game away . Must be extrememly embarassing for him, too.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28727 Posts
May 23 2003 13:46 GMT
#10
huk

I had always heard referrals to this game as a reason for foru being really amazing pvt, but I mean he _lost_ cause he made that many gates. =[
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jeeeg
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania47 Posts
May 23 2003 13:54 GMT
#11
brute force :/
no finesse
sucks
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 23 2003 14:13 GMT
#12
ForU lost cause he thought he had won (WHICH HE HAD IF HE HAD ACTUALLY TRIED AFTER THE 10 MINUTE POINT), at one point he had something 4000 mins and 1500 gas compared to nada's like 600/100. WHY DIDN'T HE LIKE MASS CARRIER? Or drop? Or deny expos? Or do something other then try to attack nada's 4000 turret/ 4000 siege tank wall.
4 cheers for Ryan307
z7-TranCe
Profile Joined November 2002
Canada3158 Posts
May 23 2003 14:13 GMT
#13
pusan[s.g] would beg to differ my romanian friend
Erwin was here! AhaHAHhhHAHahahAHAhaha
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
May 23 2003 14:17 GMT
#14
8 gates for every one fact and he still lost. what a newbie T_T. he let nada build up like a mofo
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 23 2003 14:18 GMT
#15
Shockey calling ForU a newbie... what has the world of gaming come to?
4 cheers for Ryan307
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-23 14:47:42
May 23 2003 14:36 GMT
#16
You have to admit, though: after he had the game won, ForU played like a newb =/. IMO, he would've been fine if he'd just stopped Nada's island expo and let his money build up from his huge income so that he could fully take advantage of having 45-50 gates to rebuild his army quickly. It's also kinda funny how after his assault failed, he still kept making gateways -.- .

Edit: Come to think of it, fOru's attack was like trying to break down a locked door with one, fierce, all-out headbutt: it's almost guaranteed to fail, and once it's done, you're essentially knocked out and helpless for a while after. Not to mention that there are a lot of smarter ways to break down a door than to use your head =/.
jeeeg
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania47 Posts
May 23 2003 14:37 GMT
#17
i was talking about this game only
i hate pvt games with only macro/low level units, make me think players don't really enjoy the game and they just wanna get it over with :|
GuMMiBeAR
Profile Joined March 2003
Sweden564 Posts
May 23 2003 15:22 GMT
#18
--- Nuked ---
aint that a bitch?
Bleww
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1080 Posts
May 23 2003 15:44 GMT
#19
Did any of you stop to think that maybe Nada won that game b/c he's good and not b/c forU "sucks"?
I am back
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
May 23 2003 15:58 GMT
#20
Bleww, most of these people's brains don't function well enough to concock(sp?) such ideas.
Anyways, I havn't watched it yet, so I can say maybe FORU truely did play like a newb, but I don't think any newbie could last long enough to get 50 gateways against [ReD]NaDa... And from the sounds of things, its a long game and I can't see a newbie getting into a long game with NaDa. Furthermore, I think you shouldn't judge a player over one small game, and mass carriers doesn't always work, even 30...
NaDa has the required micro skills to make all those resources go to shame by locking each and every one down or using cloaked wraiths and spoting obs with scan, destroying, medics to blind obs, ect.ect.ect.
Sorry if i'm over judging since I didn't watch rep yet, just from the sounds of things, so these are only educated guesses. - -
To sum things up:
FORU played well early game (from what I hear) got cocky, thought he had the game, slacked a little maybe and ended up losing in the end. He also screwed up I believe, with a poor attack. So my question for you is: You've never ever, ever messed up in a game? If you say no, you are a liar or you havn't played much. And secondly: Can any of you posters beat NaDa? Come close? Didn't think so... Only top players on these forums could come close, and these people didn't post.
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28727 Posts
May 23 2003 16:12 GMT
#21
foru started out _great_ but I got the feeling he just wanted to really impress everyone with the most crazy macro in the history of brood war. it backfired however and made him lose a sure win situation.. ;/
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esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
May 23 2003 16:56 GMT
#22
this is why turtling owns
[r]h_probe
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States188 Posts
May 23 2003 17:04 GMT
#23
oh, It wasnt just one poor attack. It was repeated dumb attacks against something impossible to break.
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 23 2003 17:09 GMT
#24
Bleww did you even watch the rep? Nada is amazing, but the fact is ForU should have fucking owned him before like the 15 minute mark.
4 cheers for Ryan307
Grotfang
Profile Joined May 2003
Belgium490 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-23 17:25:56
May 23 2003 17:25 GMT
#25
it wasn't just a dumb attack.. I think some of you people are missing the upgrades.. he may have had 50 gates, but upgrading his troops to 3-3-3 was too much to ask.



FUNNY : 7FACT > 50GATE, HAHA
No plz only LT.. no not TvT.. no.. ok cancel?
Toff
Profile Joined December 2002
Norway309 Posts
May 23 2003 18:09 GMT
#26
painfull to watch
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
May 23 2003 18:31 GMT
#27
its kind of ridiculous that most people overlooked the fact that nada was 3-3 well before foru was even 2-2-1 .. furthermore that map looked fairly narrow (maybe it was because shit was everywhere and constant moving units) so everytime foru tried to move he was either being sieged or getting pushed,and nada harassed his expos fairly well..that being said he should have won the game regardless.
Tom_BRowkaH
Profile Joined April 2003
Peru96 Posts
May 23 2003 18:39 GMT
#28
Wow river of flame is a retarded map!
Tich mi protis
BlackJack-X17
Profile Joined March 2003
United States158 Posts
May 23 2003 19:56 GMT
#29
its been out on wgtour for a while now.
MORAGA
Profile Joined May 2003
United States323 Posts
May 23 2003 20:46 GMT
#30
Neither NaDa or forU sucks. their pros
50 gates is just outrageous thought.
Moraga, California
Tom_BRowkaH
Profile Joined April 2003
Peru96 Posts
May 23 2003 21:06 GMT
#31
On May 24 2003 04:56 BlackJack-X17 wrote:
its been out on wgtour for a while now.


omg it has? i think it reeks of imbalance and stupidity

Tich mi protis
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 23 2003 21:18 GMT
#32
I think its better then a lot of the pro maps with imbalence (cough*bifrost*cough)
4 cheers for Ryan307
Pol
Profile Joined December 2002
Poland1187 Posts
May 23 2003 23:45 GMT
#33
very cool game
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-24 00:10:11
May 24 2003 00:08 GMT
#34
ForU play early was really killer. That shuttle drop on the tanks soon after nadda took his nat was great. Then a constant harass on the nat to follow up. But after that, he really slacked off.

The second game in the series was a different story altogether.
This is a perfect example of why scouting and misinformation great.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
May 24 2003 00:21 GMT
#35
uh, i dont think river of flames is that bad at all
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
May 24 2003 01:35 GMT
#36
drone's right.. ~50 gates is just superficial. to impress.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
May 24 2003 04:26 GMT
#37
Well imho the 50 gates weren't really that much of a problem- rally pointing them, upgrading the units and GETTING A BALANCED army seemed like more of a problem. 3 billion goons vs 50 sieged tanks = thx.
Nerd.
11 years and counting- TL #680
jeeeg
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania47 Posts
May 24 2003 05:53 GMT
#38
he thought he won and his body belived him and decreased the oxigen supply to the brain thus going into idle mode!
thats why he forgot to scout and could not compute a strategy to defeat nada's defence
it's been scientifically proven!
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
May 24 2003 13:34 GMT
#39
Before people start going overboard with the "OMG forU sux, how could he lose that game, he should retire" comments, everyone should realize that the infamous 50 gates match was quite a while ago and forU still dominates Nada like no other player on the planet can (with the possible exception of Boxer). In fact, lest people forget, forU beat Nada (for like the 10,000th time) quite handily in the Olympus OGN Starleague just last month when Nada had just beaten Boxer and the kid was at the height of his game.

Let's keep some perspective, please.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
May 24 2003 13:42 GMT
#40
...and whatta you know? forU squishes Boxer like a little girly-ant in a PvT match yesterday in the KTF OGN Team League.

There's simply no one better PvT in the world right now.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Ready2[ESC]
Profile Joined October 2002
Hungary1436 Posts
May 24 2003 13:59 GMT
#41
OMG forU sux, how could he lose that game, he should retire!
--- Nuked ---
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33502 Posts
May 25 2003 05:52 GMT
#42
Let's not overrate ForU, which you might do if you listened to Mensrea.

This guy has some big reputation, but his tournament performance doesn't always show it. He hasn't had to play a major PvT vs Nada in a very long time, though he did win the one they did play (in the Olympus Starleague). Still, what can one say about 1 game?

His recent record with Boxer was 1-1, where Boxer destroyed him on the protoss favored map Guillotine in a game that had life and death on the line. In a relatively unimportant game where Boxer had 24 hours to practice for, ForU easily beat Boxer when Boxer did a very stupid attack which he must have known was going to get taken down.

instead, let's worship gundam's tvp :O!
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33502 Posts
May 25 2003 05:53 GMT
#43
But yeah, he very might as well be the best PvT, but it might not be saying much -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Wirthi
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany395 Posts
May 25 2003 08:20 GMT
#44
This game.....
is so ridiculous. Well, me as a chobo, play PvsT like this when I am bored of the game and the opponent just keeps sitting in his base. You know you have eco advantage by far, just pump units and send them in.

But this game is really the worst toss performance by a pro gamer i haver EVER seen, seriously.

Seems like after this first pathetic attack where foru burned his whole army to kill about 7 tanks the AI took over control for the toss player.
IHaveNoSound
Profile Joined May 2003
Australia127 Posts
May 25 2003 21:22 GMT
#45
little girly ant :D
ogre
Profile Joined May 2003
Hungary8 Posts
May 26 2003 16:23 GMT
#46
I think foru could have won with 3 arbiters/statis field...
^________________________________^
ejai63
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2101 Posts
May 26 2003 16:34 GMT
#47
what a gay game. foru was just trying to show off/humiliate nada. why the freak didnt he upgrade his units at all??? why didnt he make cannons by his expos?? i think what he should've done was make 4 stargates, then drop and take the island expo. since he was maxed, and would've lost a lot of units to the island attack, he could've built up a crapload of carriers and rolled over nada.
1-10-5
unchained
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden122 Posts
May 26 2003 17:12 GMT
#48
i can try.
sdf sdf
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
May 26 2003 18:16 GMT
#49
haha
why are people making a big deal out of ONE game
was it life and death?
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
mindspike
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1902 Posts
May 26 2003 18:18 GMT
#50
Hey
it should be called 49 gates game
thats how many gates bwchart reports ^^
zerg/human - vancouver, canada
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 26 2003 19:05 GMT
#51
Let's not underrated ForU like you do if you listen to Waxangel ^^
ForU has been the only toss aside from Zeus to play at a consistant high level of play and not going to major slumps. Plus he is just plain better than Zeus. No toss player currently has been able to perform great due to the map selection.
As for what ForU coulda done, who cares? he lost and he got humiliated. Everyone has had one of those. Reach got turbo newbies by Nada's Vulture art, Chojja's been totally turbo newbied by Nada also. Boxer showed ForU whos daddy too. These things happen and sometimes pros just play the worst games they have in ages.
As for Wax's comment on being the best PvT isn't saying much. Being the best at a matchup actually is saying quite a bit. So the best protoss right now is probably second rate compared to the top 10. (Reach is on top 10 actually but thats cuz of two seasons ago) Just last Season protoss was totally fine, and ForU was still the best PvT then too, you can talk about Reach all you want but I think ForU is a more solid PvT.
Anyone ever see the other totally embarassing rapes of Nada ForU has executed? Probably not, so you guys shouldn't talk trash about the most consistant pro Protoss out there. ForU's been around forever, and he is pretty much the HOT of Toss.
As for ForU's tournament record, he has always been consistantly top 8 or so. He hasn't won anything but it is really difficult for a toss to. no? Only three have and they all die afterwards, Reach Garim Grr.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33502 Posts
May 27 2003 00:08 GMT
#52
ForU is nowhere near being the HOT of toss ;(

HOT has the most games for any progamer. I don't know if I can find ForU on that list.

Though you might be right, in a way. Since toss sucks so bad, several near entrances into major leagues VS several major league apperances and top 8 + finishes for a zerg player might compare.

;p
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