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xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 05:17:00
September 23 2014 05:13 GMT
#1301
On September 23 2014 14:07 EndingLife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 13:54 xboi209 wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:06 ExBoshy wrote:
I read the whole topic. I don't see any point in new server. Iccup and Fish are good enough.

As a player with a normal life and logs in to play a couple matches for nostalgia or for fun, you may be completely right.
As an (ICCup)admin, it's a stressful hellhole to be part of. Bugs that have been unfixed for years, no support from the higher ups, the lack of tools, and the list goes on.
For ICCup to optimally function with all of its issues, it needs a much bigger team of admins than it currently has, which it'll never get, because everyone wants to play of course. Getting your points from a match or getting a hacker banned can potentially take 2 weeks and possibly more.
Did I forget to mention that there are multiple ways to bypass the antihack, all of which won't get patched even if information is provided on how to solve the problem.
I start thinking about how similar this is to how Kerrigan got ditched on some random planet with no hope for help to arrive(and then she comes back as a pain in the ass)

Mentioning that there are several ways to bypass the antihack isn't a good idea.

Well not every antihack is perfect to begin with, ICCup didn't hire top notch security experts and programmers to create their antihack so there's bound to be some flaws. By nature, hackers will win.
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Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 23 2014 06:17 GMT
#1302
On September 23 2014 14:01 ExBoshy wrote:
And how will new server fix those problems?

Better anti-hack, bug-free admin systems which will be much easier to use, more noob-friendly way of accessing the server, wayyyy less buggy website, plus all the added cool things like automated matchmaking.

I'd much prefer to use iCCup and just fix it up but as already mentioned, the iCCup admin has refused our help. The second option would be for Fish to be made non-Korean friendly, but that's unlikely. StarServer is the third option. The fourth is to leave things as they are and allow iCCup to continue stagnating. I want to help out the BW community and also get some experience in programming, hence me starting this project.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 23 2014 06:36 GMT
#1303
what about progaming?
ExBoshy
Profile Joined June 2014
118 Posts
September 23 2014 07:12 GMT
#1304
So what have you made so far?
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
September 23 2014 11:11 GMT
#1305
On September 23 2014 16:12 ExBoshy wrote:
So what have you made so far?

Anti-hack, most of auto-matchmaking, and I'm redoing the website with some friends from uni because production had stalled and we're making it much better! We've thought of a better way of doing the "launcher" which will become more obvious on release. Basically you'll be able to keep using mcalauncher/wlauncher/chaoslauncher or whichever you prefer instead of having to use our one, but there'll still be anti-hack and auto-matchmaking and so on.
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 23 2014 11:56 GMT
#1306
[image loading]

this could be the new site's banner
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland306 Posts
September 27 2014 09:58 GMT
#1307
How exactly will the auto-matchmaking work? Server throws you into a lobby? What about latency problems for users that doesn't have ports open?


On September 17 2014 23:47 amazingxkcd wrote:
Why are you guys even bumping this thread? there's no released work yet, and AFAIK, this project is dead on arrival anyways so don't build hope up

I have no hope on this project. Imo best thing is to release whats been done open-source, maybe some other team would complete it.
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 05:37:59
October 02 2014 05:37 GMT
#1308
if there will be a new foreign server ever it HAS TO HAVE IP BINDED TO ACC's like on fish like the /finger command it shows all the id's on 1 ip ONLY good comes from this players think twice before they flame just obvious stop the stupidass maphacking, abusing smurfing and dodging etc etc
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10808 Posts
October 02 2014 08:13 GMT
#1309
Yea but it has to be changed to something different than /finger , i'm not sure all the non korean new comers to BW will understand why everyone is fingering them.
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HighdraL1sk
Profile Joined April 2012
United States140 Posts
October 02 2014 09:01 GMT
#1310
so let me get this straight. I f I start playing Brood War people are going to finger me?
Sero
Profile Joined October 2010
United States692 Posts
October 02 2014 10:54 GMT
#1311
How would a command to show IP help with any of those problems? Are you going to memorize everyone's IP, then check everyone you play, so you know if they're smurfing? If someone hacks or flames, what does showing their IP do? And are you going to shame them out of dodging by telling them their IP?
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GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
October 02 2014 11:08 GMT
#1312
On October 02 2014 19:54 Sero wrote:
How would a command to show IP help with any of those problems? Are you going to memorize everyone's IP, then check everyone you play, so you know if they're smurfing? If someone hacks or flames, what does showing their IP do? And are you going to shame them out of dodging by telling them their IP?


It helps the admins to add sanctions to all accounts instead of one single after heavy bm, maphack or otherwise. On ICCup for instance you can hardly reverse search via IP, but to have to look for suspicious smurfs. A public finger option however would be a no go for me to register or sign up at any platforms. Call me paranoid, but I really don't like the idea shady figures like Game or halfwits like casey can get this kind of information in an instant, half censored or no.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27236 Posts
October 02 2014 12:33 GMT
#1313
As someone who is seriously considering returning to BW after ten years, I suppose I'd be the kind of 'new player' that you'd want to keep around.

The impression I get just from reading this thread is that Fish is too alien an environment for a non-Korean, ICCup isn't/can't be maintained to resolve certain issues and the proposed new server may not get off the ground/may not get the mass foreign migration that it would need to be worthwhile.

Obviously all these points interest me, especially as I'd be a woeful player and would kind of need/want to talk and practice with other players.
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 02 2014 15:00 GMT
#1314
Iccup is the best designed server out there, and if you're new it's a great place to go. Its problems are somewhat exaggerated by the tendency of some individuals to feud with the admins.

Fish is where you go to play against better players. It's not a phenomenal server but it's the same game, so you just learn to deal with it.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
October 02 2014 15:18 GMT
#1315
Iccup is a great server for new players.
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-02 16:53:30
October 02 2014 16:45 GMT
#1316
I don't think you need a website, the community isn't big enough to keep it lively. Why not releasing the ladder with the antihack and the new point system, from there just make update.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 12:55:40
October 03 2014 12:18 GMT
#1317
If you can make it so that anyone can host without having to port forward etc., then the server can really shine. matchmaking isn't that important. matchmaking is important when u have a big player base. but to have a big player base in the first place, you need a server that makes it so that any bastard can host a game. that is the key. im sure you guys know this though.

edit:
just tried mca and fish at my new location...can't host =( gotta talk to my landlord lol
broodwar2.0
Profile Joined October 2013
Niue229 Posts
October 03 2014 17:27 GMT
#1318
On October 03 2014 21:18 Golgotha wrote:
If you can make it so that anyone can host without having to port forward etc., then the server can really shine. matchmaking isn't that important. matchmaking is important when u have a big player base. but to have a big player base in the first place, you need a server that makes it so that any bastard can host a game. that is the key. im sure you guys know this though.

edit:
just tried mca and fish at my new location...can't host =( gotta talk to my landlord lol
<-lol people still cant figure out how a router works or google incredible
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DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland306 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 18:45:39
October 03 2014 18:45 GMT
#1319
Router configuration can be hard for people who only play games on computer. Games of today doesn't need any router configs at all.
xboi209
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1173 Posts
October 03 2014 20:25 GMT
#1320
On October 04 2014 02:27 broodwar2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 21:18 Golgotha wrote:
If you can make it so that anyone can host without having to port forward etc., then the server can really shine. matchmaking isn't that important. matchmaking is important when u have a big player base. but to have a big player base in the first place, you need a server that makes it so that any bastard can host a game. that is the key. im sure you guys know this though.

edit:
just tried mca and fish at my new location...can't host =( gotta talk to my landlord lol
<-lol people still cant figure out how a router works or google incredible

Not everyone has access to their router settings
http://www.reddit.com/r/broodwar/
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