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Sadness
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Brazil552 Posts
April 09 2013 15:54 GMT
#61
Wow, cool to remember a lot of old names: froz, rekrul, assem...

Does anybody knows what happened to Rekrul? Does he still plays poker?
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
April 09 2013 16:01 GMT
#62
hovz randomly messaged me on AIM last year asking me to buy something from a website and that'd he'd reimburse me. It was a watch or something, I don't remember.
I put the fu in fun
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
April 09 2013 16:20 GMT
#63
On April 07 2013 10:18 Mindcrime wrote:
Wherever he is, I imagine he's showing the Spanish who's boss.


How has this comment not received more love? It was the best fucking thread ever i swear.
<3
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 16:31:29
April 09 2013 16:27 GMT
#64
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 09 2013 16:38 GMT
#65
On April 10 2013 00:42 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:01 739 wrote:
iCafe.Moto guy haha, how could I forget :D

What about ZelotITO? I liked the guy.



I remember reading one of his interviews. He talked about his PvZ style. I think he opened double gate, and said the reason some people thought PvZ was imbalanced was because they didn't get gas fast enough. He also said he liked to exploit little advantages. For example, if his zealot killed one drone he tried to make it a long game.

I was a fan.

I just read this interview with MotO http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=48737
Man I wish I was around for those days .
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G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
April 09 2013 16:59 GMT
#66
On April 09 2013 14:46 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 20:43 G5 wrote:
On April 08 2013 09:23 Nymphaceae wrote:
On April 07 2013 15:28 vOdToasT wrote:
This guy is like a more oldschool version of Combat EX. He brags a lot, has no wit, keeps saying dumb things, thinks he's better at the game than he is, is black, and is a douche bag. :D

Hovz actually was really good at the game. Combatex never was good at the game...

I just figure that hovz was like a pathological liar or something, because some of those stories he told me in channel were really weird. Like he'd tell me about how he needs to keep a pistol in his car, and then kept rambling on about how this terran proxy raxed him.


Dunno what being black has to do with anything... but... w/e... HovZ in my opinion was never that good. When Team USA was first made, he made the team and was top 10 USA material but even then, I used to be able to beat him and at that point, I played Terran and completely sucked. This is back in the early days of Grrrr... and Elky. Once the game evolved a little bit and players got better, HovZ couldn't keep up. Artosis, Nyoken, Rekrul, Froz, Assem, Day[9], and others were, and still are, far better than him.

On April 07 2013 19:08 Shana wrote:
Wasnt he the one that punched nextel?


Yes. He showed up to his house, knocked on the door, and hit him because Nextel shit talked him (if I remember correctly). HovZ was a disrespectful punk / criminal imo. Honestly, who the hell does that? Hopefully he has grown up and isn't such a "thug".


Uh... compared to the timelines in SC? HovZ was okay but nothing special lol. He was decent for the era in which he played. Not like you were any better back than Eric. A lot of guys could beat him easily back then. Not much of a feat. I would never compare players to other guys who quit long before they started to make waves like yourself. So there's no need to compare a guy like HovZ to guys like Nyoken, Rek, Froz, Whear, and Assem. Heck I wouldn't even compare him to Maynard, Zileas, Pillars and Tsu for that matter either. Sean started doing well in 2003-2004 and your home boy Dan was never that good. -_-

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 05:15 Holgerius wrote:
On April 09 2013 04:28 DarkNetHunter wrote:
On April 08 2013 20:43 G5 wrote:

On April 07 2013 19:08 Shana wrote:
Wasnt he the one that punched nextel?


Yes. He showed up to his house, knocked on the door, and hit him because Nextel shit talked him (if I remember correctly). HovZ was a disrespectful punk / criminal imo. Honestly, who the hell does that? Hopefully he has grown up and isn't such a "thug".


Not defending HovZ because I have no idea how he acted himself, but I would applaud such an action. The internet shouldn't give a free pass to talk shit, it's not like you'd talk shit to a stranger on the subway and not expect to get punched for it.


You're applauding him punching someone over a little smack talk? Really?


The guy loves to fight.


I compare them because they played in the same era and I view those players as being better than HovZ in that era. HovZ was good for his time but he wasn't a dominant force, that's all I'm saying. BTW, as far as USA goes, Dan (Artosis) who I believe you are referring to was the only player to compete in every WCG USA National Final every year since it began until he moved to Korea and couldn't attend anymore. I consider that pretty fucking good and extremely consistent. The only other player on that level of consistency of being a top USA player for so many years would be the other Dan (Nyoken).
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 17:06:00
April 09 2013 17:00 GMT
#67
On April 10 2013 01:27 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better


I don't get why people would berate an '03 player.

On April 10 2013 01:59 G5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 14:46 StarStruck wrote:
On April 08 2013 20:43 G5 wrote:
On April 08 2013 09:23 Nymphaceae wrote:
On April 07 2013 15:28 vOdToasT wrote:
This guy is like a more oldschool version of Combat EX. He brags a lot, has no wit, keeps saying dumb things, thinks he's better at the game than he is, is black, and is a douche bag. :D

Hovz actually was really good at the game. Combatex never was good at the game...

I just figure that hovz was like a pathological liar or something, because some of those stories he told me in channel were really weird. Like he'd tell me about how he needs to keep a pistol in his car, and then kept rambling on about how this terran proxy raxed him.


Dunno what being black has to do with anything... but... w/e... HovZ in my opinion was never that good. When Team USA was first made, he made the team and was top 10 USA material but even then, I used to be able to beat him and at that point, I played Terran and completely sucked. This is back in the early days of Grrrr... and Elky. Once the game evolved a little bit and players got better, HovZ couldn't keep up. Artosis, Nyoken, Rekrul, Froz, Assem, Day[9], and others were, and still are, far better than him.

On April 07 2013 19:08 Shana wrote:
Wasnt he the one that punched nextel?


Yes. He showed up to his house, knocked on the door, and hit him because Nextel shit talked him (if I remember correctly). HovZ was a disrespectful punk / criminal imo. Honestly, who the hell does that? Hopefully he has grown up and isn't such a "thug".


Uh... compared to the timelines in SC? HovZ was okay but nothing special lol. He was decent for the era in which he played. Not like you were any better back than Eric. A lot of guys could beat him easily back then. Not much of a feat. I would never compare players to other guys who quit long before they started to make waves like yourself. So there's no need to compare a guy like HovZ to guys like Nyoken, Rek, Froz, Whear, and Assem. Heck I wouldn't even compare him to Maynard, Zileas, Pillars and Tsu for that matter either. Sean started doing well in 2003-2004 and your home boy Dan was never that good. -_-

On April 09 2013 05:15 Holgerius wrote:
On April 09 2013 04:28 DarkNetHunter wrote:
On April 08 2013 20:43 G5 wrote:

On April 07 2013 19:08 Shana wrote:
Wasnt he the one that punched nextel?


Yes. He showed up to his house, knocked on the door, and hit him because Nextel shit talked him (if I remember correctly). HovZ was a disrespectful punk / criminal imo. Honestly, who the hell does that? Hopefully he has grown up and isn't such a "thug".


Not defending HovZ because I have no idea how he acted himself, but I would applaud such an action. The internet shouldn't give a free pass to talk shit, it's not like you'd talk shit to a stranger on the subway and not expect to get punched for it.


You're applauding him punching someone over a little smack talk? Really?


The guy loves to fight.


I compare them because they played in the same era and I view those players as being better than HovZ in that era. HovZ was good for his time but he wasn't a dominant force, that's all I'm saying. BTW, as far as USA goes, Dan (Artosis) who I believe you are referring to was the only player to compete in every WCG USA National Final every year since it began until he moved to Korea and couldn't attend anymore. I consider that pretty fucking good and extremely consistent. The only other player on that level of consistency of being a top USA player for so many years would be the other Dan (Nyoken).


I don't think anyone would say HovZ was a dominant force man. As for the WCG prelims and qualifiers. You and I both know it was a bit of a joke and poorly ran. Not all regions are the same for that matter either.
G5
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States2919 Posts
April 09 2013 17:04 GMT
#68
On April 10 2013 00:54 Sadness wrote:
Wow, cool to remember a lot of old names: froz, rekrul, assem...

Does anybody knows what happened to Rekrul? Does he still plays poker?


I think so. Last time I saw him was in Korea at IEF a few years ago and he was still owning up poker. Last time I talked to Assem, he was in grad school (which he is probably done with now), and I have no idea what happened to Froz. I think he was going to UCLA or something last time I talked to him. His brother was a decent War3 player from Northern California. If you ever want to know what happened to Assem, I am pretty sure Artosis would know. They were like best friends FOREVER.
Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
April 09 2013 18:06 GMT
#69
On April 10 2013 00:54 Sadness wrote:
Wow, cool to remember a lot of old names: froz, rekrul, assem...

Does anybody knows what happened to Rekrul? Does he still plays poker?


Why don't you ask him? He's still around.
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 18:49:49
April 09 2013 18:34 GMT
#70
On April 10 2013 01:27 travis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better


Because I was a hella good Z player and I played matches with everyone bro

But for real I played as FightAsVenom then later Rolex-Venom. I played up until SC2 came out and honestly was one of the best Zergs in america tho not very well known. I mostly just laddered neogamei/pgtour/iccup when i wasnt playin with my crew of friends. but ive played most of the top americans back then and i can tell you hovz was definitely not that great.

an anecdote about hovz, after losing to me IRL he types "noob shit" in game and then gets up in the pc cafe and walks towards the entrance lol.. I was so impossibly nervous as well after losing to my friend Blind in the first round, it was my first live tournament in any game ever ahh good times.
Broom
nyoken
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
United States102 Posts
April 09 2013 19:06 GMT
#71
On April 10 2013 01:01 comabreaded wrote:
hovz randomly messaged me on AIM last year asking me to buy something from a website and that'd he'd reimburse me. It was a watch or something, I don't remember.


Hovz got his AIM stolen. The guy asked me to do something similar. I msged rainkhan to confirm that it was indeed hovz. However rainkhan's aim got stolen by the same guy so he obviously lied to me saying it was really hovz lol. I didn't lose that much though so w/e.
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
April 09 2013 19:50 GMT
#72
On April 10 2013 04:06 nyoken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 01:01 comabreaded wrote:
hovz randomly messaged me on AIM last year asking me to buy something from a website and that'd he'd reimburse me. It was a watch or something, I don't remember.


Hovz got his AIM stolen. The guy asked me to do something similar. I msged rainkhan to confirm that it was indeed hovz. However rainkhan's aim got stolen by the same guy so he obviously lied to me saying it was really hovz lol. I didn't lose that much though so w/e.


Oh haha I thought it was too fishy so I said no.
I put the fu in fun
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
April 09 2013 23:30 GMT
#73
On April 10 2013 03:34 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 01:27 travis wrote:
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better


Because I was a hella good Z player and I played matches with everyone bro

But for real I played as FightAsVenom then later Rolex-Venom. I played up until SC2 came out and honestly was one of the best Zergs in america tho not very well known. I mostly just laddered neogamei/pgtour/iccup when i wasnt playin with my crew of friends. but ive played most of the top americans back then and i can tell you hovz was definitely not that great.

an anecdote about hovz, after losing to me IRL he types "noob shit" in game and then gets up in the pc cafe and walks towards the entrance lol.. I was so impossibly nervous as well after losing to my friend Blind in the first round, it was my first live tournament in any game ever ahh good times.

You know, I never had any connection to your ID until just now when I recall you beating me multiple times when TL first went crazy over Hamachi. Good times ;p
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 00:52:23
April 10 2013 00:51 GMT
#74
On April 09 2013 20:47 739 wrote:
APM has nothing to do. Macia, one of the polish best terrans few years ago (WCG finals vs Blackman) was 70 apm terran and still managed to outclass his opponents. Just to mention ^^

Omg Macia... when i was 13yo i wanted to play like macia, map split in double turret layer. He was my hero.

He was called Turret-Macia.

that was 10 years ago
Stork[gm]
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
April 10 2013 00:57 GMT
#75
Hovz... mcnasty... tsunami... These are all names my old ass remembers back when I was like...14 lol trip down memory lane for sure.,
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 10 2013 03:11 GMT
#76
On April 08 2013 13:14 angryjew wrote:
I don't know where he went, but rest assured the angryjew has returned.

f u
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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
April 10 2013 03:24 GMT
#77
I remember making him back down from his "10k fight yo" since he found out I had some mma experience.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Capulet
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada686 Posts
April 10 2013 03:58 GMT
#78
On April 10 2013 03:34 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 01:27 travis wrote:
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better


Because I was a hella good Z player and I played matches with everyone bro

But for real I played as FightAsVenom then later Rolex-Venom. I played up until SC2 came out and honestly was one of the best Zergs in america tho not very well known. I mostly just laddered neogamei/pgtour/iccup when i wasnt playin with my crew of friends. but ive played most of the top americans back then and i can tell you hovz was definitely not that great.

an anecdote about hovz, after losing to me IRL he types "noob shit" in game and then gets up in the pc cafe and walks towards the entrance lol.. I was so impossibly nervous as well after losing to my friend Blind in the first round, it was my first live tournament in any game ever ahh good times.


lol i believe you. I remember seeing your name here and there. There were lots of ladder heroes who never wanted to pursue BW any further than leisure competition. Another example was kickdog.
"I'm just killing the spiders to save the butterflies... Wanting to save both is a contradiction. What would you rather do? Keep deliberating? The butterfly will be eaten in the meantime."
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
April 10 2013 04:40 GMT
#79
haha i'm friends with a girl that was dating nextel when the hovz incident happened. small world. bw 5ever
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
April 10 2013 05:05 GMT
#80
On April 09 2013 06:13 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 04:00 vOdToasT wrote:
On April 08 2013 20:43 G5 wrote:
On April 08 2013 09:23 Nymphaceae wrote:
On April 07 2013 15:28 vOdToasT wrote:
This guy is like a more oldschool version of Combat EX. He brags a lot, has no wit, keeps saying dumb things, thinks he's better at the game than he is, is black, and is a douche bag. :D

Hovz actually was really good at the game. Combatex never was good at the game...

I just figure that hovz was like a pathological liar or something, because some of those stories he told me in channel were really weird. Like he'd tell me about how he needs to keep a pistol in his car, and then kept rambling on about how this terran proxy raxed him.


Dunno what being black has to do with anything... but... w/e... HovZ in my opinion was never that good. When Team USA was first made, he made the team and was top 10 USA material but even then, I used to be able to beat him and at that point, I played Terran and completely sucked. This is back in the early days of Grrrr... and Elky. Once the game evolved a little bit and players got better, HovZ couldn't keep up. Artosis, Nyoken, Rekrul, Froz, Assem, Day[9], and others were, and still are, far better than him.

On April 07 2013 19:08 Shana wrote:
Wasnt he the one that punched nextel?


Yes. He showed up to his house, knocked on the door, and hit him because Nextel shit talked him (if I remember correctly). HovZ was a disrespectful punk / criminal imo. Honestly, who the hell does that? Hopefully he has grown up and isn't such a "thug".



I would have said the same thing if they were both asian or latin american or anything else. It's just another thing in a long list of similarities between Hovz and Combat-EX.

you are an idiot. his name is wasif khan. he is not black.

There are plenty of black people with Arabic names. But it's true that anyone who's heard/seen combat-ex should be able to tell he's not black. Not that any of this actually matters lol
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