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SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 05:20:27
April 10 2013 05:19 GMT
#81
To add a random post, someone mentioned Crayon earlier in this thread and that gave me some super nostalgia. I loved that guy and he was really fun to watch.

Edit: In the shower.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
April 10 2013 06:18 GMT
#82
HovZ does very, very well for himself in poker (online when it was still available and even now at live), fwiw. He's taken down an LAPC:

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=128070
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
April 10 2013 07:06 GMT
#83
On April 09 2013 04:53 IntoTheWow wrote:
Just dropping by in a nostalgia thread..


Heyo~
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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
April 10 2013 07:55 GMT
#84
"97% of teamliquid members suck at life and are a waste a breath"

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EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 09:59:20
April 10 2013 09:58 GMT
#85
On April 09 2013 16:27 Powerpill wrote:
I still remember that old TL thread where Hovz called out Spain, saying all Spanish players were n00bs. Pages upon pages of smack talk ensued, then some B team Spain player (called Upham if I remember correctly) challenged and beat HovZ, immediately posting the replay in the thread. Ah.. the old days. =]


Yeah, it was ToT)Upham(

I still remember the thread...

"Who is Upham?!?"

"Who cares, he's ToT!"


Edit - Also, Nyoken sighting, wtf!
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Eatme
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
Switzerland3919 Posts
April 10 2013 14:22 GMT
#86
On April 10 2013 18:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 16:27 Powerpill wrote:
I still remember that old TL thread where Hovz called out Spain, saying all Spanish players were n00bs. Pages upon pages of smack talk ensued, then some B team Spain player (called Upham if I remember correctly) challenged and beat HovZ, immediately posting the replay in the thread. Ah.. the old days. =]


Yeah, it was ToT)Upham(

I still remember the thread...

"Who is Upham?!?"

"Who cares, he's ToT!"


Edit - Also, Nyoken sighting, wtf!

Yeah felt like I was the only one who have heard about him since I obbed him vs destroyer (who owned him) once. That was one of my favourite TL moments. If I recall correctly he still claimed that all spanish players were trash and him losing to a 2nd teir spanish player didnt meant anything since the top players were somehow worse. Also he wasnt trying ect.

Been a while since I saw a TL thread where I recongize a majority of the names.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 15:25:25
April 10 2013 15:25 GMT
#87
On April 10 2013 23:22 Eatme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 18:58 EvilTeletubby wrote:
On April 09 2013 16:27 Powerpill wrote:
I still remember that old TL thread where Hovz called out Spain, saying all Spanish players were n00bs. Pages upon pages of smack talk ensued, then some B team Spain player (called Upham if I remember correctly) challenged and beat HovZ, immediately posting the replay in the thread. Ah.. the old days. =]


Yeah, it was ToT)Upham(

I still remember the thread...

"Who is Upham?!?"

"Who cares, he's ToT!"


Edit - Also, Nyoken sighting, wtf!

Yeah felt like I was the only one who have heard about him since I obbed him vs destroyer (who owned him) once. That was one of my favourite TL moments. If I recall correctly he still claimed that all spanish players were trash and him losing to a 2nd teir spanish player didnt meant anything since the top players were somehow worse. Also he wasnt trying ect.

Been a while since I saw a TL thread where I recongize a majority of the names.



He's wrong lol. There were a lot of underrated nations.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
April 10 2013 22:40 GMT
#88
I'm reading this guys old posts. Hes nuts.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Ero-Sennin
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States756 Posts
April 10 2013 23:44 GMT
#89
I remember playing Hovz way back in the early 2000s... he thought he could beat me. Ah, that was cute ^^
Luck makes talent look like genius.
Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
April 11 2013 00:20 GMT
#90
I used to play a lot w/ [[race]]zzang. He would invite me to obs his games all the time.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
April 11 2013 00:32 GMT
#91
On April 11 2013 09:20 Nymphaceae wrote:
I used to play a lot w/ [[race]]zzang. He would invite me to obs his games all the time.

I know he probably isn't, but was he the guy who started ZZangDream on USWest? Giang or Jiang I believe his name was.
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Nymphaceae
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States350 Posts
April 11 2013 00:38 GMT
#92
I don't know zzangdream, but this guy had like the most wins on Bnet I think. He also beat boxer in a televised match in the very beginning. Like people from into-/nc/)is( would come into the channel and ask for a 1v1. The thought back then was a lot different from how people play today though. Like whenever I played against them, I would freak out, and build tons of sunkens, because they were all so good. I would build like 30 sunkens on 2 base lol. So, they taught me to stop building static defense, so I started to try to win games without ever building sunkens. It worked really well for me at that time.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
April 11 2013 05:42 GMT
#93
On April 10 2013 03:34 red.venom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 01:27 travis wrote:
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better


Because I was a hella good Z player and I played matches with everyone bro

But for real I played as FightAsVenom then later Rolex-Venom. I played up until SC2 came out and honestly was one of the best Zergs in america tho not very well known. I mostly just laddered neogamei/pgtour/iccup when i wasnt playin with my crew of friends. but ive played most of the top americans back then and i can tell you hovz was definitely not that great.

an anecdote about hovz, after losing to me IRL he types "noob shit" in game and then gets up in the pc cafe and walks towards the entrance lol.. I was so impossibly nervous as well after losing to my friend Blind in the first round, it was my first live tournament in any game ever ahh good times.


Somehow I remeber FightAsVenom..did you use to hang out in Nohunters?
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
April 11 2013 06:05 GMT
#94
OMG that interview was hilarious
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YuTz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States119 Posts
April 11 2013 07:27 GMT
#95
I remember playing a few games with him back in the day. He loved his vultures! But yea he was super BM lol
Old School.....
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51470 Posts
April 11 2013 07:44 GMT
#96
On April 10 2013 14:19 SCC-Faust wrote:
To add a random post, someone mentioned Crayon earlier in this thread and that gave me some super nostalgia. I loved that guy and he was really fun to watch.

Edit: In the shower.


Nal_CrayOn right? The Korean-American Zerg?
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ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
April 11 2013 08:40 GMT
#97
On April 11 2013 09:32 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 09:20 Nymphaceae wrote:
I used to play a lot w/ [[race]]zzang. He would invite me to obs his games all the time.

I know he probably isn't, but was he the guy who started ZZangDream on USWest? Giang or Jiang I believe his name was.

Nah, that's not Giang. Giang was an old friend of mine from [x.1]. He helped me and a bunch of other people get into korean clans. He got a guy named shadoweyez / shadow-lzuruha into [fOu] as City[fOu], and me into Siz). There were a few other guys who got into other clans but I can't remember at the time. As far as I know he quit BW because his parents were really against it.

HitEmUp
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
April 11 2013 08:41 GMT
#98
On April 11 2013 16:44 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 14:19 SCC-Faust wrote:
To add a random post, someone mentioned Crayon earlier in this thread and that gave me some super nostalgia. I loved that guy and he was really fun to watch.

Edit: In the shower.


Nal_CrayOn right? The Korean-American Zerg?

Goddamn, I miss CrayOn.

Anyone at all remember a sdG)zZiCko from East?
HitEmUp
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
April 11 2013 09:04 GMT
#99
On April 11 2013 16:44 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 14:19 SCC-Faust wrote:
To add a random post, someone mentioned Crayon earlier in this thread and that gave me some super nostalgia. I loved that guy and he was really fun to watch.

Edit: In the shower.


Nal_CrayOn right? The Korean-American Zerg?


yes. He wasnt korean american either. He was in the states on school and then later on work visa. I havent talked to him on msn in a couple years since i dont use msn anymore ;;
Broom
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
April 11 2013 09:07 GMT
#100
On April 11 2013 14:42 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2013 03:34 red.venom wrote:
On April 10 2013 01:27 travis wrote:
On April 09 2013 18:43 red.venom wrote:
On April 07 2013 16:46 travis wrote:
you can say what you want of hovz but in his prime he was definitely one of the best terrans in the U.S. Probably 2nd or 3rd best, honestly I can't remember what terran in the U.S. I had more trouble vs than him.. but im probably just not remembering.


Sorry man this is just so untrue. Froz, Assem and lots of ppl were leagues better than him to a degree that you could call hovz an amateur. As hilarious as it is Artosis was prob better than him. Then u have ppl less known like Crayon who could play Terran much better than Hovz ever could despite it not being his main race, etc.

Hovz was like low apm okay player, Terrible vs efficient Z and prob had an okay vs USA P matchh. I beat him in a wcg qual live using a mouse that wasnt even mine and felt horrible lol. i mean whatever this is like 8 years ago but i dont like to see someone like hovz get acclaim this way.


who are you and how would you know

i actually played against hovz a lot as well as most of other top foreign terrans and good korean terrans and hovz was very solid. it was just vs p tho cuz i was p so i can't speak for other matchups i guess


i see nyoken posted, another pretty good usa terran player. though when i played id rate hovz higher but then i think nyoken kept improving and got better


Because I was a hella good Z player and I played matches with everyone bro

But for real I played as FightAsVenom then later Rolex-Venom. I played up until SC2 came out and honestly was one of the best Zergs in america tho not very well known. I mostly just laddered neogamei/pgtour/iccup when i wasnt playin with my crew of friends. but ive played most of the top americans back then and i can tell you hovz was definitely not that great.

an anecdote about hovz, after losing to me IRL he types "noob shit" in game and then gets up in the pc cafe and walks towards the entrance lol.. I was so impossibly nervous as well after losing to my friend Blind in the first round, it was my first live tournament in any game ever ahh good times.


Somehow I remeber FightAsVenom..did you use to hang out in Nohunters?


just a little. I'd play with my friend Basic there sometimes.. mostly hung out in korean dominated channels on west
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