OH MY GOD WHEN!?! Thursday, Jan 24 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) The betting will begin after SRT group D finishes to be more precise.
What tournaments will be covered? At this time we have decided to focus on two of the many great tournaments running, Teamliquid Legacy Starleague and Sonic Leagues starting with the 12th SOSPA Ranking Tournament
What does winning the 25th inaugural Starcraft Brood War Liquibet mean? This is the first foreign based season of Liquibet and the 25th anniversary. Carrying this title will glorify you forever!
On January 25 2013 00:33 dRaW wrote: awesome will feel weird to bet on myself
I'm scouring Sayle's channel before the TLS betting begins. Gotta know my go to foreigners.
Oh crap, you're making a valid point, I'm going t fail so bad at the foreigner votes D:
just bet on zergs, there are so many you can't lose
More zergs means more zergs that are going to lose as well as more zergs that are going to win.. Every single player could be Zerg, and your "argument" would still be nonsensical.
If you're gonna make a racist joke, at least make a funny joke. Hell, if you're gonna make any joke at all, make it funny.
On January 25 2013 02:32 Sayle wrote: I'm in the opposite situation. I know all the foreigners but none of the amateur Koreans besides the ex-pros
This is why power rank is going to be nice down the line. I know that's up in the air too and it probably can't exist till after the first TLS, but it will be awesome to have after that.
On January 25 2013 03:12 Cele wrote: cool stuff, how do i participate?
When new LBs are added you should be able to see them in the top left of your screen, where you log out/check PMs etc. Just click the yellow numbers (currently it's 0/0, that'll change).
On January 25 2013 00:33 dRaW wrote: awesome will feel weird to bet on myself
I'm scouring Sayle's channel before the TLS betting begins. Gotta know my go to foreigners.
Oh crap, you're making a valid point, I'm going t fail so bad at the foreigner votes D:
just bet on zergs, there are so many you can't lose
More zergs means more zergs that are going to lose as well as more zergs that are going to win.. Every single player could be Zerg, and your "argument" would still be nonsensical.
If you're gonna make a racist joke, at least make a funny joke. Hell, if you're gonna make any joke at all, make it funny.
typical zerg doesn't understand a joke
On January 25 2013 02:32 Sayle wrote: I'm in the opposite situation. I know all the foreigners but none of the amateur Koreans besides the ex-pros
just take like 15min out of your day to review the results in the tours.
On January 25 2013 02:32 Sayle wrote: I'm in the opposite situation. I know all the foreigners but none of the amateur Koreans besides the ex-pros
just take like 15min out of your day to review the results in the tours.
Trust me, that's not enough. These players aren't known to be very consistent, like Sea cruising through SRT11 and losing out in the group stages of SRT12, or HiyA going 0-2 in SRT11 and 2-1 in SRT12.
Do you have Misc. selected under SC2 in the TL options on the top left? I just tried it out and if it's not checked Liquibet doesn't show up. Hope that fixes it.
Anyways, I'm going with Movie, Hero, Sky, and Hiya.
BW Liquibet! I remember for one season, I consistently bet using the P > T > Z > P formula (and bet on Flash to win everything), and ended up doing better than I ever did with analysis or planning and such. Good times!
missed the first 2 bets, but that's just as well since I would have placed my bet wrong, at least in the beast vs Sky match...
For the other two I took: Movie and by.hero. I went with my gut on Movie, even though Shuttle might have the better PvP of the two. I haven't heard of Perry, so I pretty had to go with hero for that match.
Hope BW Liquibet keeps going now that there are so many BW tournaments going on
On January 26 2013 00:12 TehRei wrote: missed the first 2 bets, but that's just as well since I would have placed my bet wrong, at least in the beast vs Sky match...
For the other two I took: Movie and by.hero. I went with my gut on Movie, even though Shuttle might have the better PvP of the two. I haven't heard of Perry, so I pretty had to go with hero for that match.
Hope BW Liquibet keeps going now that there are so many BW tournaments going on
Yeah a lot off people picked Sky me included. I know not to auto pick him now.
Also, I think it's awesome hot_bid and iNcontrol are in first and second place lol.
Tabulated (with the help of GeckoXP) in order for obtaining points on a qualifier. (who is most likely to get points based on previous attemtps: So per attempt on qualifier, maximum points received)
leave your team in the thread: Same rules as regular 5 players (1captain for tie-break, if multiple tie break we'll roll a die or something O,o) 30 points total, and you need 3 players on your anti team to add to 13points.
This will only last the remaining two qualifiers. Points gained for your team will be: 1win = 5pts | 2wins = 11 pts | 3wins = 21 pts | 4wins = 41 pts | 5wins = 65pts | 6wins = 90 pts | 7wins = 115pts (this is the winner of the tour to put into perspective)
On January 25 2013 00:33 dRaW wrote: awesome will feel weird to bet on myself
I'm scouring Sayle's channel before the TLS betting begins. Gotta know my go to foreigners.
Oh crap, you're making a valid point, I'm going t fail so bad at the foreigner votes D:
just bet on zergs, there are so many you can't lose
More zergs means more zergs that are going to lose as well as more zergs that are going to win.. Every single player could be Zerg, and your "argument" would still be nonsensical.
If you're gonna make a racist joke, at least make a funny joke. Hell, if you're gonna make any joke at all, make it funny.
On February 13 2013 23:27 Herro_Korea wrote: Another set of TLS liquibets!
Voted dRaW/SouthPark and TrutaCz/ZZZero altough I'm scarred for ZZZero in this group, national pride takes over the rational thinking.
its much harder to pick this weekend than last, but trutacz gonna get through 100%
Yeah, it's a tossup between you SP and Napoleon, and apart from trutacz it's really hard to guess who will advance.
I think draw will win his 2 games unless it's a big upset...i'm more concerned about that last spot between SP and Nap, but picked Nap in the end. Hope I'm right
Liquibet for gambit cup is so amazing! It's strange that the new season of GC has no carry over from last season to the grand finals, but I guess that's good news for teams like iFU who are adding new players and will have an equal chance now.
On February 28 2013 09:03 LRM)nOoNe wrote: Don't use the GC schedule I have up at the moment. It will be updated once the deadline for new team applications has passed.
Yeah I was informed a little late. Ill update accordingly. Any missprints will be turned into for funs.
On February 28 2013 07:55 dRaW wrote: Liquibet for gambit cup is so amazing! It's strange that the new season of GC has no carry over from last season to the grand finals, but I guess that's good news for teams like iFU who are adding new players and will have an equal chance now.
Yeah, now that iFU has Garimto, they will be unstoppable!
On March 08 2013 02:50 Sayle wrote: I assumed that regardless of how bad the progamer was, he would still be the one who has most recently been a progamer and therefore likely to win.
I still don't get how he can play if he is a member of SKT.
On March 08 2013 02:50 Sayle wrote: I assumed that regardless of how bad the progamer was, he would still be the one who has most recently been a progamer and therefore likely to win.
Do I have to remind you? Should start at 15:50. Watch 20 sec~
On March 08 2013 02:50 Sayle wrote: I assumed that regardless of how bad the progamer was, he would still be the one who has most recently been a progamer and therefore likely to win.
On March 08 2013 02:50 Sayle wrote: I assumed that regardless of how bad the progamer was, he would still be the one who has most recently been a progamer and therefore likely to win.
hahhaha congrats dRaw voted with my heart instead of brain T_T eonzerg and skzlime oh well :D maybe ill catch back up with SSL and gambit points watch out!
On March 28 2013 21:49 Sayle wrote: Yeah I was wondering if I should vote Michael too. But then I realized I didn't want everyone to be 8 points ahead of me.
I actually am more stressed out about the 3rd/4th place match. So many people pick Eon but I know Skzlime is much better than he was last week. But if we do base it off his games vs Michael then he has no chance and needs to improve his TvZ.
Dangit, why does the final have to be worth 8 pts. So scary....I really want to vote for Michael, because I think he will pull of some amazing play, but Sziky is just so good. What to pick, what to pick..
On March 28 2013 22:47 Sayle wrote: The only bet I'm not 90% sure of this week is LRM vs NW O_o
haha same. I have a 100% success in GC liquibet so far, but I fear that LRM vs NW might change that. I went with NW this time, so we'll see.
Only missed 1 pick in GC, and that was the first round with whoever NW played...not picking against that team again (unless it 's sas, but I still might pick NW).
I went with NW...if they can take nation wars, they can take GC they should add in a liquibet for Sziky vs Sea and Michael vs Sea and just void whichever one isn't applicable
On March 29 2013 08:05 traceurling wrote: I went with NW...if they can take nation wars, they can take GC they should add in a liquibet for Sziky vs Sea and Michael vs Sea and just void whichever one isn't applicable
I also picked LRM, big mistake. The tough CW this week to pick is iFU/LRM and FR/iWL not really sure how that will turn out. LancerX still yet to win a game, eventually it :must: happen. Eon where is AlfiO when you need him?
On April 04 2013 17:30 Herro_Korea wrote: In my case, coin decided in favor of iWL
All hail almighty fortune telling coin!
Your coin is smart.
Nono, gogo FR.
Very coin flip though. I've missed too many bets to even have a chance, but I have a pretty good run in Gambit's Cup bets. Only one point missed (and 8 not voted on T_T)
On April 04 2013 17:30 Herro_Korea wrote: In my case, coin decided in favor of iWL
All hail almighty fortune telling coin!
Your coin is smart.
Nono, gogo FR.
Very coin flip though. I've missed too many bets to even have a chance, but I have a pretty good run in Gambit's Cup bets. Only one point missed (and 8 not voted on T_T)
On April 04 2013 17:30 Herro_Korea wrote: In my case, coin decided in favor of iWL
All hail almighty fortune telling coin!
Your coin is smart.
Nono, gogo FR.
Very coin flip though. I've missed too many bets to even have a chance, but I have a pretty good run in Gambit's Cup bets. Only one point missed (and 8 not voted on T_T)
I'm 100% for GC so far
Same, GC has been very generous. There is still time to catch up on points. SSL major bets will kick in soon. And season 25 is going to run through another TLS tournament too.
His play in the last defiler tour was good, but still not top top level imo. Hope he keeps on practising, we really lack good zergs in the foreign scene at the moment.
On April 05 2013 23:53 Sayle wrote: Do you mean Hungarian Ace? Because he's the foreigner king of silver
Yeah damn TLPD. He needs to take his title more seriously.
On April 05 2013 23:54 corumjhaelen wrote: His play in the last defiler tour was good, but still not top top level imo. Hope he keeps on practising, we really lack good zerg in the foreign scene at the moment.
On April 06 2013 02:07 Falling wrote: *sigh. I'm 71% correct in voting, but only 57% on points. I screwed up bad when the points were essential in the TLS semi-finals.
I did horrible in the ro8 almost missed everyone by choosing the upsets hoping to sneak my way to the top.
On April 06 2013 22:46 Sayle wrote: I bet Mazur will win everything.
http://binarybeast.com/xBW1303093 You call yourself a caster? He's not even here... Bonyth will probably make the finals and then lose to one of those Zergs, Julia / Trutracz / Southpark.
On April 08 2013 20:30 Herro_Korea wrote: wow dRaW so good at liquibeting ;; What's the key to success? I need to know! I demand anserws!
On April 08 2013 04:12 Sayle wrote: [20:08:39] KidCanada: dude LRM line up is weak lately [20:08:45] KidCanada: i saw their practice session last night [20:08:52] KidCanada: all their good players were not able to show up
LOL! I got 2 wrong foreign bets in past 2 weeks, I think it's the SSL that's keeping me on top. Also anyone else notice that terrorterran has slowly snuck up the ranks?
On April 08 2013 21:18 dRaW wrote: LOL! I got 2 wrong foreign bets in past 2 weeks, I think it's the SSL that's keeping me on top. Also anyone else notice that terrorterran has slowly snuck up the ranks?
Knowing LRM had a weak lineup is cheating Fell behind one point again
LRMs costing me everything... I voted for NW against them, and for them again FR... For group stage for SSL, do we just have to guess correctly one of the advancing players, or do we get a point for each player we guess correctly to advance?
On April 08 2013 22:39 dRaW wrote: I didn't know, I voted LRM but I won the SSL votes
Oh you voted Tyson?
On April 08 2013 22:52 traceurling wrote: LRMs costing me everything... I voted for NW against them, and for them again FR... For group stage for SSL, do we just have to guess correctly one of the advancing players, or do we get a point for each player we guess correctly to advance?
Going to have some really good CWs this weekend :D couldn't decide for a while who to pick. NW could pull an upset against sas, FR/SJ seems really close and iWL vs iFU can have some decent games as well.
I still blame beast for wrecking my lb in that bj ranking tourney.
always voted against him, then voted for him when he lost the finals vs movie. Kid cost me 15 points (though pretty much everyone voted against him for by.hero and sky, which were 5 point and 3 points respectively)
64% point 79% vote, but I expect that to go down more since I don't watch clan wars
really beast is the reason for everyone's mismatch
On April 09 2013 11:50 N.geNuity wrote: I still blame beast for wrecking my lb in that bj ranking tourney.
always voted against him, then voted for him when he lost the finals vs movie. Kid cost me 15 points (though pretty much everyone voted against him for by.hero and sky, which were 5 point and 3 points respectively)
64% point 79% vote, but I expect that to go down more since I don't watch clan wars
really beast is the reason for everyone's mismatch
Is that why I reached so high in the lb rankings?
Points Percentage 75% Voting Percentage 85%
I missed the very first two liquibets tho probably wouldve gotten 3 points there...
On April 09 2013 11:50 N.geNuity wrote: I still blame beast for wrecking my lb in that bj ranking tourney.
always voted against him, then voted for him when he lost the finals vs movie. Kid cost me 15 points (though pretty much everyone voted against him for by.hero and sky, which were 5 point and 3 points respectively)
64% point 79% vote, but I expect that to go down more since I don't watch clan wars
really beast is the reason for everyone's mismatch
Is that why I reached so high in the lb rankings?
Points Percentage 75% Voting Percentage 85%
I missed the very first two liquibets tho probably wouldve gotten 3 points there...
AGHHHHHHHHHHHHH I CANT DECIDE!!! for some reason I am getting a feeling that FR is going to beat NW, and I don't know why... maybe it's because BSL is over and I don't see the polish guys online as frequently.
I'm more concerned about LRM vs sas. On the one hand, LRM managed to drop 2 sets to Fox. On the other hand, if they bring a lineup like TechnicS, dOTY, Semih, Bakuryu, Kolll, and get favourable matchups against sas players (Game is quite good at predicting lineups), I can see easily see LRM pulling off a win.
lol no clue how this works but somehow I pulled away again... Also Terrorterran jumped a lot over the past 2 weeks if anyone else noticed.
edit: btw how do we pick between Tyson and HiyA? Tyson is so random, he will lose vs some 1200 guy on fish because his micro was god awful and then go on to beat sea 3 times in a row...
On May 03 2013 23:19 2Pacalypse- wrote: GC is on break this week, so you have 1 more week to think through
Oh fuck I forgot. I would have bet differently if I knew that
I did the same thing but I figured 1 extra week wont change much, the people who practice will practice and the people who dont will not practice.
I was on the fence about SJ vs LRM because of LRM's flaky lineup but went with them anyway since I thought they could rally the troops for this one last week to try and make the playoffs. If there's a week break, I can see it being much harder for them to bring people next week so I would have voted SJ instead.
On May 04 2013 01:26 traceurling wrote: How long does each liquibet season last?
Until dRaW loses.
this^
and I made the GC LB's and I even didnt realize it was next week lol! Fortunately I put the dates in right.
On a serious note I think the LB SC1 season should not be as long as the LB sc2 seasons last. Maybe till august or at the end of TLS2. I will address this later ok
On May 05 2013 05:42 dRaW wrote: yeah i took a gamble
It wasn't a horrible one but Tyson is such a coin flip. But with TLS starting soon and high point SSL picks plus post season Gambit Cup the next few weeks are going to be intense.
im having a hard time with this T_T killer is my favourite player in the SSL (on par with sea i guess but hes out ;_;) but hes up agaisnt ssak (who has some really awesome tvz lategame) but killer in the last ssl played heavy mid-games with a ton of lurker ling. Which might be ssak's weakest point, but its pretty hard to completely kill a terran if they turtle up, and than it heads into a lategame where its ssak's game(if he isnt too far behind) and yeah im sure killer has a much better lategame than the other zergs ssak has faced but memories of that jaedong flash game keeps poping up with like a million tanks on FS and jaedong runs like 8-10 ultras in to get obliterated.
AND then theres hiya and hero, if u asked me before this ssl who was going to win i would say hiya, hero just seemed to luck his way through with some cheese, however his recent games have been really good and i cant say hiya is solidest player to take him down. omg so hard... sayle was right, why did sonic have to randomize the bracket hiya vs ssak and killer vs hero would have been fine or hiya vs killer and ssak vs hero either way ssak and killer would probably be in the finals.
and if does go to the finals: killer and hero (lol i think its going to be a stomp like the last one, killers zvz seems immaculate, especially making excellent decisions when behind to exploit every error his opponent makes, wanna win while u have a lead vs killer? u better play perfect through the rest of the game than O_O)
On May 18 2013 09:30 dRaW wrote: lol you picked iwl? wtf this was a walkover, figures I lose my number 1 spot cause the favourite decides not to show.
I didn't realize the walkover thing either. That really does suck. Unfortunately for season 25 we are going hard core mode. SSL screwed me over several times with players not showing up.
Why was the GC semifinals bet open for such a short time?? (20 hours I think) Sucks for people who can't spend 24/7 logged in on TL, now I missed a high points vote because of that. Really annoying. Could you please try and leave it open for at least a couple of days?
On May 20 2013 07:25 quuad wrote: Why was the GC semifinals bet open for such a short time?? (20 hours I think) Sucks for people who can't spend 24/7 logged in on TL, now I missed a high points vote because of that. Really annoying. Could you please try and leave it open for at least a couple of days?
The semis isn't played till tomorrow I'll open up voting until that time.
On May 21 2013 22:53 BisuDagger wrote: This was worth way to many points and created far to late. I'm reducing this to zero points. I'm sorry to those who did vote but I want to be fair to everyone in LB! <3
edit: Also I was informed the voting was open after people may have known the results.
So frustrated. Besides my crappy phone and little reception from the mountains I can't do much else. I promise more liquibets will be available soon. I return home tomorrow!
On May 29 2013 13:57 Shock710 wrote: why is the SRT match with lazy, ssak, movie and hero worth 0 points? are the rest of the srt matchs going to be 0 points as well?
Liquibets that are put up with insufficient time to vote (I forget what the exact number is, but it's around a day or two minimum) are always worth zero points.
On May 29 2013 13:57 Shock710 wrote: why is the SRT match with lazy, ssak, movie and hero worth 0 points? are the rest of the srt matchs going to be 0 points as well?
Liquibets that are put up with insufficient time to vote (I forget what the exact number is, but it's around a day or two minimum) are always worth zero points.
This, on a positive note I'm back from vacation tomorrow so point will pour in,
On May 30 2013 17:31 Shock710 wrote: errr.....O_O that 1000 point liquibet...its a little joke/fun thing right, its not actually going to go through....right???
I think the power level of the LB is a little higher now.
On June 02 2013 14:28 dRaW wrote: THERE ARE NO JOKES IN LIQUIBET! WE PLAY FOR LIFE AND DEATH!
edit: Anyone pick iFU in top 10?
phew the fact that ur asking means u lost 4 points too...thankgod...should have picked ifu T_T plus for you, its any one in the top 5 who picked iFU, everyone else doesnt affect ur 1st
On June 02 2013 14:28 dRaW wrote: THERE ARE NO JOKES IN LIQUIBET! WE PLAY FOR LIFE AND DEATH!
edit: Anyone pick iFU in top 10?
phew the fact that ur asking means u lost 4 points too...thankgod...should have picked ifu T_T plus for you, its any one in the top 5 who picked iFU, everyone else doesnt affect ur 1st
but anyone who is top 10 gets closer, which adds more variance to later votes that could change everything!
On June 02 2013 14:28 dRaW wrote: THERE ARE NO JOKES IN LIQUIBET! WE PLAY FOR LIFE AND DEATH!
edit: Anyone pick iFU in top 10?
phew the fact that ur asking means u lost 4 points too...thankgod...should have picked ifu T_T plus for you, its any one in the top 5 who picked iFU, everyone else doesnt affect ur 1st
but anyone who is top 10 gets closer, which adds more variance to later votes that could change everything!
haha true true! Tho im more focused on surpassing you first! :D
On June 02 2013 14:28 dRaW wrote: THERE ARE NO JOKES IN LIQUIBET! WE PLAY FOR LIFE AND DEATH!
edit: Anyone pick iFU in top 10?
phew the fact that ur asking means u lost 4 points too...thankgod...should have picked ifu T_T plus for you, its any one in the top 5 who picked iFU, everyone else doesnt affect ur 1st
but anyone who is top 10 gets closer, which adds more variance to later votes that could change everything!
haha true true! Tho im more focused on surpassing you first! :D
Some have tried, but I always end up back on top... muahahahaha!
On June 05 2013 15:11 Falling wrote: I hope I am right. Soooo close to breaking into top 100. Never really did much consistent liquibetting before.
It's never too late, once you start getting into it you'll be hooked!
3/4 T_T I knew Ramms was practicing a bit lately but I thought it wouldn't matter... I guess this group was more volatile than I had anticipated. Next week might be the best week now.
ahh too bad. ... tbh its good, Hiya did let me down, i only had 1/2 anyway
They switched the players in each group last minute.
Guys, Pusan needs to win a tournament. Do you realize he is one of the most veteran Starcraft players around? I feel really sad he isn't getting any golds.
ahh too bad. ... tbh its good, Hiya did let me down, i only had 1/2 anyway
They switched the players in each group last minute.
Guys, Pusan needs to win a tournament. Do you realize he is one of the most veteran Starcraft players around? I feel really sad he isn't getting any golds.
He said SSL8 was his last tournament before going to the military but it looks like this was it instead.
On July 03 2013 05:16 dRaW wrote: Shit thanks for the reminder, I was out of town and decided to check TL.net cause I'm an addict but I wouldn't have seen this without thread update.
On July 03 2013 21:35 Cele wrote: missed the vote -.-
i actually near missed the votes too, i was in perth for a week without internet (group trip) but i managed to find an internet cafe and vote just in time phew
On July 04 2013 02:01 Epoxide wrote: He didn't vote like he wrote because it was a trap. Sea winning against Movie must have been the biggest upset in ages.
Yeah, except Sea looking a lot more focused then ever right now. The finals should be really good.
On July 04 2013 02:01 Epoxide wrote: He didn't vote like he wrote because it was a trap. Sea winning against Movie must have been the biggest upset in ages.
Yeah, except Sea looking a lot more focused then ever right now. The finals should be really good.
Yeah, except Sea had 37.04% winrate in TvP and Movie had 69.39%. Sea's worst match-up against Movie's best match-up. Yeah don't tell me it wasn't an upset.
On July 04 2013 02:01 Epoxide wrote: He didn't vote like he wrote because it was a trap. Sea winning against Movie must have been the biggest upset in ages.
Yeah, except Sea looking a lot more focused then ever right now. The finals should be really good.
Yeah, except Sea had 37.04% winrate in TvP and Movie had 69.39%. Sea's worst match-up against Movie's best match-up. Yeah don't tell me it wasn't an upset.
Does this mean TLers are all idiots? No! We vote with our hearts <3
On July 04 2013 02:01 Epoxide wrote: He didn't vote like he wrote because it was a trap. Sea winning against Movie must have been the biggest upset in ages.
Yeah, except Sea looking a lot more focused then ever right now. The finals should be really good.
Yeah, except Sea had 37.04% winrate in TvP and Movie had 69.39%. Sea's worst match-up against Movie's best match-up. Yeah don't tell me it wasn't an upset.
Does this mean TLers are all idiots? No! We vote with our hearts <3
Yeah that's exactly what it is I would have voted for Sea if I wasn't still contending for #1 ^^
On July 04 2013 02:01 Epoxide wrote: He didn't vote like he wrote because it was a trap. Sea winning against Movie must have been the biggest upset in ages.
Yeah, except Sea looking a lot more focused then ever right now. The finals should be really good.
Yeah, except Sea had 37.04% winrate in TvP and Movie had 69.39%. Sea's worst match-up against Movie's best match-up. Yeah don't tell me it wasn't an upset.
Does this mean TLers are all idiots? No! We vote with our hearts <3
Yeah that's exactly what it is I would have voted for Sea if I wasn't still contending for #1 ^^
But I did vote for Sea despite being #5, what is this sorcery ? + Show Spoiler +
Maybe the way Movie played in Ro8 compared to the way Sea played his. That was a tough call though.
While the stats are convincing sometimes you can just tell when a player is going to win.
Have I told you guys the story about when coach Park sent out Bisu in the ace match of proleague finals back in 2012. He was considering sending Fantasy. Knowing all well it was a protoss favored map KT would send Flash no matter what. But then he looked in Bisu's eyes. He said he saw something in that moment. Either Bisu was destined to go into that booth or he was about to throw up from all the nervousness and pressure. Low and behold, Bisu was destined to win. The game starts and he goes in there with some proxy aggression that Flash overcomes putting Bisu in a tough spot. Well Bisu, despite his record vs terran, despite his record vs Flash, despite all you haters out there, the gorgeous, the courageous, the bestestest, Bisu won the ace match to take the victory for SKT.
Let's be honest, mOvie is the best afreeca streamer atm. He probably should have won Sea. I have to go with Sea in the finals now as he wrecked Killer last time and killer isn't looking so active.
ah shit sea down 2-1 I think I lost my liquibet lead because of sea, 1) he beat movie when he shouldn't have 2) he's losing to killer when he wrecked him last time. 2 for 2 sea... you really letting me down
On July 04 2013 22:03 dRaW wrote: ah shit sea down 2-1 I think I lost my liquibet lead because of sea, 1) he beat movie when he shouldn't have 2) he's losing to killer when he wrecked him last time. 2 for 2 sea... you really letting me down
well its 2-2 now sea played so amazingly on FS damn it just when i thought i was so close to getting first...T_T now behind at least 4 points omg...sigh
On July 04 2013 23:00 dRaW wrote: Loooool, I left at game four when I thought killer has it with early lead at fs, how did sea turn this around?? Really awesome
Fucking mech switch, tanks imba, you know the deal
On July 05 2013 13:02 Release wrote: Question: Is Draw allowed to bet on his own games?
I bet soon as the bet was available, even the other matches that I may or may not know. I always vote before I know the result because there's no point in cheating, my only competitor is myself.
On July 07 2013 00:28 dRaW wrote: I still see him second, 1 pt behind me. They didn't update the SRT final points yet though.
Exactly.
sign 5 points behind...but i guess it wasnt as worse when i was 8 points behind theres still time to catch up!!! (i think...)
Why did you pick sea in semis but not in finals?? strange :D Thought you would've picked Sea and Julia to catch me today.
picked sea out of love in the semis, but i really did think killer would take it idk why i didnt pick julia it was just kinda random for that pick. flipped a coin didnt work out lol
I'm just waiting for him to slip up xD. Imagine if Draw got to the finals and had to face Sziky and lost the 1st place due to voting for himself or better yet thinking that he would lose and voting on Sziky and actually winning it!
Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
im losing on purpose to keep it interesting. btw how did Hi win?
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
im losing on purpose to keep it interesting. btw how did Hi win?
So I had this dream where the final liquibet was like 50 points and someone beat dRaW by like 28 points and there were two people tied for the victory and both of them got trophy icons.
On July 20 2013 06:52 hp.Shell wrote: So I had this dream where the final liquibet was like 50 points and someone beat dRaW by like 28 points and there were two people tied for the victory and both of them got trophy icons.
wtf is this racist dream. BTW I voted Terror and Epoxide voted Julia so that means that we will have a definite leader after... Shock who did you vote on?
On July 20 2013 06:52 hp.Shell wrote: So I had this dream where the final liquibet was like 50 points and someone beat dRaW by like 28 points and there were two people tied for the victory and both of them got trophy icons.
That wasn't a dream. Maybe you should check LB again.
On July 20 2013 06:52 hp.Shell wrote: So I had this dream where the final liquibet was like 50 points and someone beat dRaW by like 28 points and there were two people tied for the victory and both of them got trophy icons.
That wasn't a dream. Maybe you should check LB again.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
aaaaa I really hope Shock screws up~~~~~~
The longer it goes on the higher the chance that even more people will overtake you.
Does 2nd and 3rd place also get a trophy (Silver and Bronze) and the winner gold because I've only seen users with silver trophies thus far.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
aaaaa I really hope Shock screws up~~~~~~
The longer it goes on the higher the chance that even more people will overtake you.
Does 2nd and 3rd place also get a trophy (Silver and Bronze) and the winner gold because I've only seen users with silver trophies thus far.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
aaaaa I really hope Shock screws up~~~~~~
The longer it goes on the higher the chance that even more people will overtake you.
Does 2nd and 3rd place also get a trophy (Silver and Bronze) and the winner gold because I've only seen users with silver trophies thus far.
Only winner gets
Well that's a little conservative considering that there are hundreds of liquibetters. 2nd and 3rd place should get something to imo.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
aaaaa I really hope Shock screws up~~~~~~
The longer it goes on the higher the chance that even more people will overtake you.
Does 2nd and 3rd place also get a trophy (Silver and Bronze) and the winner gold because I've only seen users with silver trophies thus far.
Only winner gets
Well that's a little conservative considering that there are hundreds of liquibetters. 2nd and 3rd place should get something to imo.
On July 17 2013 00:04 thezanursic wrote: Does anybody know how long a season lasts on average?
When this edition of SRT and the current season of TLS 2 come to a close would be an ideal time to start a new season imo and dRaW causing all sorts of drama, Shock710 and Epoxide right on his tail it would has a lot of potential for a climactic end to this season of liquibet.. A lot more than one would expect from the liquibet at least :D
I think TLS3 should be included before its over. Just my opinion but I welcome suggestions from everyone as always.
Considering that the last TLS break was about a month long. You should consider finish this season, right after this SRT is finished. I don't think you'll be getting another clear cut for another season without SRT/SSL or TLS being mid-season.
aaaaa I really hope Shock screws up~~~~~~
The longer it goes on the higher the chance that even more people will overtake you.
Does 2nd and 3rd place also get a trophy (Silver and Bronze) and the winner gold because I've only seen users with silver trophies thus far.
Only winner gets
Well that's a little conservative considering that there are hundreds of liquibetters. 2nd and 3rd place should get something to imo.
What are you? A communist? Winner takes all!
(2nd and 3rd would be pretty cool)
No I just preffer matrix schemes to the lottery.
Well that doesn't make nearly as much sense as I thought it would w/e
With all this commotion I have extended the LB1 25th season 3 more years. And also I decided there may not be a winner at all. I am however accepting bribes at my PayPal account.
T_T scared...went with sea, ssak (i guess that means tvt finals if im right) which also sucks...cause than im even more conflicted on who to vote on. T_T oh god, top 5 is so damn close, and the finals are 8 points any one can win T_T just gonna hope liquid`<3 sea will get me through (but isnt ssak's TvT pretty damn good..;_;)
But even so, what's the reason for having it so long? It's gotten kind of stale with the same three people at the top since forever. I for one would much prefer shorter seasons maybe 3-6 months depending on the number of games.
Poll: How long should BW liquibet seasons be?
6 - 9 months (5)
50%
3 - 6 months (5)
50%
Less than 3 months (0)
0%
9 - 12 months (0)
0%
More than 12 months (0)
0%
10 total votes
Your vote: How long should BW liquibet seasons be?
(Vote): Less than 3 months (Vote): 3 - 6 months (Vote): 6 - 9 months (Vote): 9 - 12 months (Vote): More than 12 months
(assuming the number of tournaments and games are roughly the same as this season)
On August 09 2013 20:17 quuad wrote: But even so, what's the reason for having it so long? It's gotten kind of stale with the same three people at the top since forever. I for one would much prefer shorter seasons maybe 3-6 months depending on the number of games.
(assuming the number of tournaments and games are roughly the same as this season)
Stop making polls please for when to close LB season 25. LB is traditionally over a long period of time and the decision for the length of LB has already been decided internally by staff. . I'm sorry some of you may have lost the fun but there is still plenty if high pooint bets left to change the tides.
Just went to standard picks, i dont think these ones are too hard to predict, F and E i think are the weird ones, especially with super cheesy Hi in it, hes the cheesy one right? or was it hint lol i remember it being something "hi" XD
On August 12 2013 22:50 Shock710 wrote: Just went to standard picks, i dont think these ones are too hard to predict, F and E i think are the weird ones, especially with super cheesy Hi in it, hes the cheesy one right? or was it hint lol i remember it being something "hi" XD
I don't really agree. I think group B and G are the tricky ones.
On August 12 2013 22:50 Shock710 wrote: Just went to standard picks, i dont think these ones are too hard to predict, F and E i think are the weird ones, especially with super cheesy Hi in it, hes the cheesy one right? or was it hint lol i remember it being something "hi" XD
I don't really agree. I think group B and G are the tricky ones.
i kinda agree with you, in the sense we dont really know half the players in those groups B and G(ofc we know best, but u know not how in shape is he), but in E F we've seen them knock out some good players with random cheese, its so dangerous in there sea ;_; get out!!! + Show Spoiler +
On August 16 2013 07:24 Epoxide wrote: Please update, I'm so curious on who Shock picked for group B :3
sigh...so close zergman
Oh you voted ZergMaN too? I thought for sure you chose Shinee
really? i dont think ive ever voted for shinee, from my remember he wasnt that great shuttle was a definite, zergman vs brave well brave was newer generation progamer right(relative)? but i guess i went with zergman because i assumed hes being playing for longer, with brave being a new addition
On August 16 2013 07:24 Epoxide wrote: Please update, I'm so curious on who Shock picked for group B :3
sigh...so close zergman
Oh you voted ZergMaN too? I thought for sure you chose Shinee
really? i dont think ive ever voted for shinee, from my remember he wasnt that great shuttle was a definite, zergman vs brave well brave was newer generation progamer right(relative)? but i guess i went with zergman because i assumed hes being playing for longer, with brave being a new addition
On August 19 2013 04:58 Epoxide wrote: reopen bet for group h, probably want to make group e 0 points although most people who voted for Sky probably would have voted for Tyson
Given LB is such a tight race I will 0 out group E. Seem fair?
On August 19 2013 04:58 Epoxide wrote: reopen bet for group h, probably want to make group e 0 points although most people who voted for Sky probably would have voted for Tyson
Given LB is such a tight race I will 0 out group E. Seem fair?
well, what else? you cant give points for matches that didnt happen :>
On August 19 2013 04:58 Epoxide wrote: reopen bet for group h, probably want to make group e 0 points although most people who voted for Sky probably would have voted for Tyson
Given LB is such a tight race I will 0 out group E. Seem fair?
well, what else? you cant give points for matches that didnt happen :>
Actually you're wrong. Traditionally it has remain valid if only one player changed because otherwise we'd be a lot less bets in since SRTs are always changing players in the group stages. So it would be more hypocritical to do it the right way lol. And in fact I've been screwed over in all but one of those bets where a player has changed. LB has no mercy, not even for its maker.
On August 19 2013 04:58 Epoxide wrote: reopen bet for group h, probably want to make group e 0 points although most people who voted for Sky probably would have voted for Tyson
Given LB is such a tight race I will 0 out group E. Seem fair?
well, what else? you cant give points for matches that didnt happen :>
Actually you're wrong. Traditionally it has remain valid if only one player changed because otherwise we'd be a lot less bets in since SRTs are always changing players in the group stages. So it would be more hypocritical to do it the right way lol. And in fact I've been screwed over in all but one of those bets where a player has changed. LB has no mercy, not even for its maker.
well it still seems the better thing to do to me, to just zero bets out that changed. We have less points then? Well i dont mind as long as the points are given out according to the bets (; And i would profit from giving points for group E too. If we for instance said: people who voted sky would have voted tyson im 2/2. (;
On August 19 2013 04:58 Epoxide wrote: reopen bet for group h, probably want to make group e 0 points although most people who voted for Sky probably would have voted for Tyson
Given LB is such a tight race I will 0 out group E. Seem fair?
well, what else? you cant give points for matches that didnt happen :>
Actually you're wrong. Traditionally it has remain valid if only one player changed because otherwise we'd be a lot less bets in since SRTs are always changing players in the group stages. So it would be more hypocritical to do it the right way lol. And in fact I've been screwed over in all but one of those bets where a player has changed. LB has no mercy, not even for its maker.
well it still seems the better thing to do to me, to just zero bets out that changed. We have less points then? Well i dont mind as long as the points are given out according to the bets (; And i would profit from giving points for group E too. If we for instance said: people who voted sky would have voted tyson im 2/2. (;
tl,dr: Zero points more legit
Yeah, for me I hate sky so I voted Hi, but would have voted Tyson over Hi for sure. Regardless the bet is buried.
I'm sorry to come here to whine again, but the groups were switched in SRT and still gave points??? that's not cool, I had only voted on the one that was supposed to be played. The dates on liquibet were NOT correct, even 15 minutes before the games started. I always wait until last minute to vote, to account for possible changes in the groups.
I know I'm probably in a minority here, but is it possible to cancel the points for group C? For the record, I was planning to vote Movie/Brave.
On August 29 2013 03:18 quuad wrote: I'm sorry to come here to whine again, but the groups were switched in SRT and still gave points??? that's not cool, I had only voted on the one that was supposed to be played. The dates on liquibet were NOT correct, even 15 minutes before the games started. I always wait until last minute to vote, to account for possible changes in the groups.
I know I'm probably in a minority here, but is it possible to cancel the points for group C? For the record, I was planning to vote Movie/Brave.
On August 29 2013 03:18 quuad wrote: I'm sorry to come here to whine again, but the groups were switched in SRT and still gave points??? that's not cool, I had only voted on the one that was supposed to be played. The dates on liquibet were NOT correct, even 15 minutes before the games started. I always wait until last minute to vote, to account for possible changes in the groups.
I know I'm probably in a minority here, but is it possible to cancel the points for group C? For the record, I was planning to vote Movie/Brave.
They weren't switched. Only the dates changed.
Pretty much lessoned learned the hard way. The votes were available for a while, so next time don't delay. We can't afford to 0 every bet Sonic changes. SEASON 25 is cutthroat and shows no mercy. + Show Spoiler +
sorry, I'm sure this was mentioned somewhere but can't remember when the new season starts. I keep forgetting to liquibet and then there's no point when you've forgotten so many lol
On August 29 2013 03:18 quuad wrote: I'm sorry to come here to whine again, but the groups were switched in SRT and still gave points??? that's not cool, I had only voted on the one that was supposed to be played. The dates on liquibet were NOT correct, even 15 minutes before the games started. I always wait until last minute to vote, to account for possible changes in the groups.
I know I'm probably in a minority here, but is it possible to cancel the points for group C? For the record, I was planning to vote Movie/Brave.
They weren't switched. Only the dates changed.
Pretty much lessoned learned the hard way. The votes were available for a while, so next time don't delay. We can't afford to 0 every bet Sonic changes. SEASON 25 is cutthroat and shows no mercy. + Show Spoiler +
Really I am sorry you missed it
Okay, yeah I'll keep it in mind. Fortunately, it was only a single point lost this time, though I have three guys breathing in my neck one point behind now.. Well at least my 17 vote streak is still alive, I hope I can make it beyond my current best at 20.
Anyway thanks for running this, despite my complaints I do think you're doing a good job and I imagine it can't be easy with all the randomness that is Sonic tournament organization.
Is the current voting streak thing wrong? i mean i just lost the movie brave bet, but it still says i have a current 18 correct streak, which doesnt make sense because i also have the the Aug 22 Sky mong vote wrong as well (betted with sky and beast)
On August 29 2013 17:23 Shock710 wrote: Is the current voting streak thing wrong? i mean i just lost the movie brave bet, but it still says i have a current 18 correct streak, which doesnt make sense because i also have the the Aug 22 Sky mong vote wrong as well (betted with sky and beast)
Group votes are counted two times. One for each player that advances. The vote is considered correct if you only get 1/2 points.
On August 29 2013 17:23 Shock710 wrote: Is the current voting streak thing wrong? i mean i just lost the movie brave bet, but it still says i have a current 18 correct streak, which doesnt make sense because i also have the the Aug 22 Sky mong vote wrong as well (betted with sky and beast)
Group votes are counted two times. One for each player that advances. The vote is considered correct if you only get 1/2 points.
oooooh lol oh really damn that makes my highest streak feel like it wasnt that great ;_;
so torn on killer vs sea, and hero vs mong -_- also hard heros so good in zvp, but this is zvt. Mong seemed to kinda disappear before this srt and most his wins are in tvt and tvp :/ hows hes tvz looking T_T so hard to call, but probably gonna go with hero on this one, that game vs movie in his fpv was so good
OH damn it i didnt check the closing time for the tls vote i saw 13th i thought i could just wait till the preview to come out before voting but the preview came out when i was asleep and the vote closed when i saw asleep ahh so stupid i shoud have checked the time properly
On October 13 2013 07:47 Shock710 wrote: OH damn it i didnt check the closing time for the tls vote i saw 13th i thought i could just wait till the preview to come out before voting but the preview came out when i was asleep and the vote closed when i saw asleep ahh so stupid i shoud have checked the time properly
. It almost pains me to finalize the bets but.... LB isn't for the faint of heart! xD
On October 31 2013 01:15 soujiro_ wrote: lrm bought sziky so ifu got garimto
Okay to make everything clear. LRM made a deal with PJ to be their head coach if they could acquire sziky. Garimto, being a rival with PJ committed to coaching iFU. Meanwhile Sas has yet to acquire a coach but rumor is that Chojja has been showing interest.
On November 11 2013 04:29 quuad wrote: So does walkover in Bizzy vs Technics mean 0 points on LB? It would seem reasonable as you can't really predict people not showing.. :/
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