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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 22:58:11
December 11 2012 22:29 GMT
#1
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Check out what I found in my attic. Let's open this bad boy up and see if we can find any gosu strats.

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Mobile terran bases with goliaths as missile turrets this is some high level shit.

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Oh man if I only had a nickel for every time I lost to a firebat rush because I didn't build enough photon cannons.

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Dark Archons turn the tide of every proleague.

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Don't really need a caption for this one.

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Prima: Number one source for BGH strats

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THE best possible use for plague.

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Prima is cheesy as fuck
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bitter[KALT]
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States138 Posts
December 11 2012 22:33 GMT
#2
That's some solid advice. Especially the "one scout in your base" tactic.

Thanks for sharing. I smiled.

My question, however, would be: Did you actually by that thing? If so, when did you by it and how much did you pay?
TL, "if it's not college level eloquence you are probably gonna get banned"
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 11 2012 22:36 GMT
#3
Rofl, this reminds me of early crazy strats i read somewhere, when i played vs pc in ~2000. like building some archons and shield batteries, so archons can recharge and never die. xD
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
December 11 2012 22:36 GMT
#4
hahaha oh wow, share some more.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5582 Posts
December 11 2012 22:38 GMT
#5
I feel like this information was out of date even at the time. The firebat rush was only viable in vanilla SC, after all, because the dark archon just hard counters it. So it really has no place in a BW guide.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
December 11 2012 22:42 GMT
#6
If only you could get refunds for that... l000l
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 11 2012 22:47 GMT
#7
On December 12 2012 07:33 bitter[KALT] wrote:
That's some solid advice. Especially the "one scout in your base" tactic.

Thanks for sharing. I smiled.

My question, however, would be: Did you actually by that thing? If so, when did you by it and how much did you pay?


I have absolutely no recollection of buying it, though I do faintly recall owning it. I probably bought it some 12 years ago. Actually I think it came with the battle chest if I remember correctly.


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Yeah, that's the BEST possible use for Plague.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
December 11 2012 22:48 GMT
#8
I want this to be a blog so I can give it 5 stars :/
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
December 11 2012 22:55 GMT
#9
i'm off to dominate the foreigner tourneys with this. later, suckers *cackles and builds mass scout*
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 11 2012 22:57 GMT
#10
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Holy shit it's the origin of the proxy rax
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 11 2012 23:10 GMT
#11
I've seen Jaedong drop defilers and plague supply depots. It's good.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 23:26:35
December 11 2012 23:21 GMT
#12
Also, I have used the Scout more times than I can count when playing with The Stove.[1]

On December 12 2012 07:47 HollowLord wrote:
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On December 12 2012 07:33 bitter[KALT] wrote:
That's some solid advice. Especially the "one scout in your base" tactic.

Thanks for sharing. I smiled.

My question, however, would be: Did you actually by that thing? If so, when did you by it and how much did you pay?


I have absolutely no recollection of buying it, though I do faintly recall owning it. I probably bought it some 12 years ago. Actually I think it came with the battle chest if I remember correctly.

You remember correctly, my good zerg! It is ironic that I was just looking at this great masterpiece last night. It has stayed on my bookshelf ever since I got it! I wonder how much I can sell it for on EBay...

[1] The Stove is not included with Prima's Official Strategy Guide. To acquire this wonderful stove I direct you here.
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 11 2012 23:28 GMT
#13
On December 12 2012 08:21 3FFA wrote:
I wonder how much I can sell it for on EBay...


About 4 dollars, apparently.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
December 11 2012 23:29 GMT
#14
Scout best P unit.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 11 2012 23:38 GMT
#15
On December 12 2012 08:29 Teoita wrote:
Scout best P unit.


Scouts got nerfed. They used to be much better.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-11 23:40:58
December 11 2012 23:39 GMT
#16
hehe I took some pictures of this book this past summer... mostly centered around how much they love firebats (and scouts)

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Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
December 11 2012 23:43 GMT
#17
Well, that explain why I'm so bad at BW
I need to build more Scouts
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
December 11 2012 23:44 GMT
#18
I have that guide as well, and it's so awesome. XD Bet Flash studied it intensly to get as good as he is.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 11 2012 23:47 GMT
#19
I remember that game where Flash won by effectively employing his firebat army against Protoss...
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 11 2012 23:52 GMT
#20
A zerg player without hydralisks is a zerg player who is probably losing


ahahha
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LTY
Profile Joined November 2012
United States223 Posts
December 12 2012 00:03 GMT
#21
Scouts and firebats LOL
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Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
December 12 2012 00:08 GMT
#22
Try to attack a Terran Command Center early on to open door for Infestation.
You'll need a Queen for this, though, so don't risk any units until you're ready.


Sure.
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
December 12 2012 00:36 GMT
#23
No wonder I win so many PvTs. The Terrans I play against never get BCs to Yamato Cannon my Arbiters. Damn chobos.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
December 12 2012 00:58 GMT
#24
On December 12 2012 08:52 ne4aJIb wrote:
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A zerg player without hydralisks is a zerg player who is probably losing


ahahha


Happy that Jaedong didn't read this guide when he did 2 hatch muta
Deleted User 268575
Profile Joined June 2012
146 Posts
December 12 2012 01:17 GMT
#25
OMG! Where was this book when I needed it!? LOL and the plague on the mass supply depots is actually really good lol, you drop a few lings, plague supply depots and Terran will be hugely supply blocked XD
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 12 2012 01:34 GMT
#26
Oh shit, to this day I haven't realized that Plague affects buildings too.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 01:51 GMT
#27
On December 12 2012 10:34 figq wrote:
Oh shit, to this day I haven't realized that Plague affects buildings too.


wut? isn't that illegal for a bw veteran? I remember alot of games where there were plagues on buildings, and even one where a zerg (I think it was Zero or Jaedong) plagued his own hatchery at the 7.5 o'clock natural by mistake because the terran was pushing him hard.
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NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
December 12 2012 01:57 GMT
#28
hahahaha the "moving city tactic" killed me.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 12 2012 01:57 GMT
#29
Certainly illegal. Well, I've certainly seen and played many games where plague affected buildings, but didn't even realize it.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 12 2012 02:00 GMT
#30
On December 12 2012 10:57 figq wrote:
Certainly illegal. Well, I've certainly seen and played many games where plague affected buildings, but didn't even realize it.


Next you will be telling me that you didn't know hydralisks did 50% damage to zealots.
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
December 12 2012 02:07 GMT
#31
On December 12 2012 11:00 Caihead wrote:
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On December 12 2012 10:57 figq wrote:
Certainly illegal. Well, I've certainly seen and played many games where plague affected buildings, but didn't even realize it.


Next you will be telling me that you didn't know hydralisks did 50% damage to zealots.
explosive damage vs small
you are right though, i rarely think about that
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 12 2012 02:21 GMT
#32
IIRC this came with the expansion bundle, that's where I got mine, and that's how I broke out of D+ on iccup
ggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
December 12 2012 02:57 GMT
#33
This guide taught me you can hotkey comsats.

Besides that, though, it's not the best guide. I'm pretty sure all its single-player advice is equally useless (if only because "build dudes and a-move" does not fill a book)
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
December 12 2012 03:08 GMT
#34
So much gosu advice
Jaedong.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
December 12 2012 03:32 GMT
#35
This thread is 200% for all the images, pretty sure it would have had less impact if it was just quotes.
Ah, how far had the meta-game come xD
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
December 12 2012 05:38 GMT
#36
this is sooooo sick. i neeeed to find my old strategy guide.. btw, which i read probably 100x
since 98'
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 12 2012 05:43 GMT
#37
On December 12 2012 08:52 ne4aJIb wrote:
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A zerg player without hydralisks is a zerg player who is probably losing


ahahha


This shall henceforth be known as "The Law Of Shine."
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manicsquare
Profile Joined June 2010
176 Posts
December 12 2012 05:48 GMT
#38
Lol I actually remember reading that strategy fuide for bgh strats when I was younger.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51446 Posts
December 12 2012 05:53 GMT
#39
On December 12 2012 08:47 kollin wrote:
I remember that game where Flash won by effectively employing his firebat army against Protoss...




this is pretty cool too
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 12 2012 06:12 GMT
#40
And they say Marine Marauder is imba.
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Modesty00
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria262 Posts
December 12 2012 06:37 GMT
#41
Thats awesomeee
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
December 12 2012 08:30 GMT
#42
I should have it somewhere. Handy toilet reading material like 10 years ago.

Prima's guides were always better than the others though, at the time.

There's one for the original Starcraft as well - had that too.
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NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
December 12 2012 08:39 GMT
#43
I think the only guides I ever bought were for Donkey Kong Country 2 (SNES) and Zelda: OOT (N64). Had to get all of those DK coins and heart pieces, ya know.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 12 2012 08:52 GMT
#44
On December 12 2012 14:53 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:47 kollin wrote:
I remember that game where Flash won by effectively employing his firebat army against Protoss...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBdlc9EWQ30

this is pretty cool too

What I miss most about BW is the casters stopping their rapidfire korean and yelling GEE GEE as soon as the gg came out.
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NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
December 12 2012 08:55 GMT
#45
Wow, people played bad in 2004... He didn't even try to run past the bunker...
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 12 2012 09:16 GMT
#46
In the worse case scenario wouldn't OoV just have pulled all his SCVs to huddle around the bunker mass repairing it while he floated all his buildings somewhere else? I don't think he had enough firepower to kill the bunker.
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Tiegrr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States607 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-12 09:33:04
December 12 2012 09:29 GMT
#47
On December 12 2012 07:42 Tatari wrote:
If only you could get refunds for that... l000l

It (and the original SC one) was a great toilet read when I was younger.

Edit: Also, those '04 SKT1 uniforms #1 greatest all time.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
December 12 2012 10:01 GMT
#48
Its pretty incredible that they foresaw many things, some of this funny things were actually pimpest plays years after this book was released..
Stork[gm]
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 12 2012 10:22 GMT
#49
Scout firebat is going to be the next big composition
Poetic[AoV]
Profile Joined November 2009
United Kingdom183 Posts
December 12 2012 11:22 GMT
#50
Does anyone know what this nerf to scouts was? They must've been pretty badass...
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
December 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#51
On December 12 2012 20:22 Poetic[AoV] wrote:
Does anyone know what this nerf to scouts was? They must've been pretty badass...


You can read the patch.txt in your starcraft folder
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
December 12 2012 14:50 GMT
#52
On December 12 2012 17:30 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I should have it somewhere. Handy toilet reading material like 10 years ago.

Prima's guides were always better than the others though, at the time.

There's one for the original Starcraft as well - had that too.



Back then Prima guides made you top shit, all the kids would be jealous. I found the original starcraft one too but it's not as funny, it's mostly just tips for beating the single player missions.
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IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
December 12 2012 15:14 GMT
#53
On December 12 2012 23:50 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 17:30 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I should have it somewhere. Handy toilet reading material like 10 years ago.

Prima's guides were always better than the others though, at the time.

There's one for the original Starcraft as well - had that too.



Back then Prima guides made you top shit, all the kids would be jealous. I found the original starcraft one too but it's not as funny, it's mostly just tips for beating the single player missions.


Oh yeah! I took them to school too and everyone wanted a read... but since I also took it to the loo... ummm... Ack.

Some of their single player advice was pretty bad too. That Zerg Mission against the UED where you had to kill the Overmind - think they told me to make 24 Mutalisks, 12 Guradians and 12 Devourers? That's a TON of gas, and my Mutas got owned by Valks lmao. Ran out of resources :D. Years later I just massed Hydras. Faceroll ftw
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 12 2012 16:01 GMT
#54
On December 12 2012 14:53 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:47 kollin wrote:
I remember that game where Flash won by effectively employing his firebat army against Protoss...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBdlc9EWQ30

this is pretty cool too


Oh. Fuck.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
December 12 2012 17:37 GMT
#55
Prima guides imba.

Although, I think they tend to be out of date before a game hits release - especially for any game that might get patches later or ANY multiplayer game.

Campaign or console? They have some good points. But MMOs? Have you seen the guides for that, they're incomprehensible by the time they hit shelves. Unit stats might be correct, but I bet the players have figured out better ways to use them. (Or maybe the Firebats leading the mobile city guarded by upgraded Goliaths simply was too strong for anyone to actually use.)

Scouts, man. That's the way to go. The lack of scouts is one of the many reasons SC2 isn't as good as BW.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
December 12 2012 17:45 GMT
#56
On December 12 2012 17:30 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I should have it somewhere. Handy toilet reading material like 10 years ago.

This lol
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SandwichApoc
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States115 Posts
December 12 2012 18:38 GMT
#57
On December 12 2012 17:30 IntoTheEmo wrote:
I should have it somewhere. Handy toilet reading material like 10 years ago.


That and the Starcraft manual with all the lore and descriptions of units. Also had listed some weird inconsistencies like wraiths needing an upgrade to attack ground.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
December 12 2012 18:41 GMT
#58
On December 12 2012 14:53 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 08:47 kollin wrote:
I remember that game where Flash won by effectively employing his firebat army against Protoss...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBdlc9EWQ30

this is pretty cool too

That girl at the 2:30 minute mark was so cute!
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
December 12 2012 18:46 GMT
#59
Parasiting cloaked wraiths is actually kinda clever
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
December 12 2012 20:28 GMT
#60
Always keep some Guardians around in case of a Firebat rush, because Firebats can't shoot air.
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
December 12 2012 22:13 GMT
#61
At least they were right about Tanks/Reavers!
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
December 12 2012 23:18 GMT
#62
Great tactics, will definitely use them in my games

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What the fuck is "moving city", I fucking spat my drink
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
December 13 2012 03:05 GMT
#63
On December 13 2012 08:18 Hyperionnn wrote:
Great tactics, will definitely use them in my games

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What the fuck is "moving city", I fucking spat my drink


A moving city is ideal because mid battle you can land your buildings and produce re enforcements on site.

Also my guide:

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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 04:25:31
December 13 2012 04:21 GMT
#64
On December 12 2012 11:00 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 10:57 figq wrote:
Certainly illegal. Well, I've certainly seen and played many games where plague affected buildings, but didn't even realize it.


Next you will be telling me that you didn't know hydralisks did 50% damage to zealots.


Or wait... that you can land Terran structures to destroy interceptors!

Though apparently it's illegal in competitive games since it's a bug.

Anyway, you guys should check out this.

Epic strategies in 1998!

Who needs multiple copies of SC?
Does StarCraft support "spawning"?
It sure does. One StarCraft CD can support up to 8 players. When you install StarCraft on a system, you have the option to install a "spawned" copy of the game, which does not require the CD to join multiplayer games. A spawned copy uses the same CD key as the parent CD, and it can only join games created by the parent. Spawning works over Battle.net, too!


Of course nowadays, it's either F2P or full purchase (usually nothing in between like the above). But yeah, back then, all Blizzard games had easy LAN support (one copy of the game is enough).

Protoss strategy
Shields Upgrades
By far the most useful upgrade for the Protoss, the Plasma Shield upgrade will add to the shield maximum for all units and buildings. Combined with Armor upgrades, you can noticeably increase the lifespan of your units. As such, the Plasma Shield Upgrade should always be researched as early as possible.


Defiler
Here is a list of units that are NOT affected by Dark Swarm:

Terrans:

Firebats
Siege Tanks in Siege Mode (can still inflict splash damage)

Protoss:

Probes
Zealots
Dark Templar
Reavers (can still inflict splash damage)
Archons

Zerg:

Drones
Zerglings
Lurkers (can inflict both direct and splash damage)
Ultralisks
Broodlings
Infested Terrans (can inflict both direct and splash damage)


I remember in a pro game where a player used dark swarm against an army of archons and zealots. Wondered if they changed that in a patch or if the guide is wrong and meant it doesn't prevent archon splash damage (that is, the targeted unit doesn't take damage, but nearby units in dark swarm do?).

The battle.net strategy site for SC1 is a fun read actually. It has lore info too for all the units and abilities.
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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
December 13 2012 04:23 GMT
#65
On December 13 2012 13:21 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 11:00 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 10:57 figq wrote:
Certainly illegal. Well, I've certainly seen and played many games where plague affected buildings, but didn't even realize it.


Next you will be telling me that you didn't know hydralisks did 50% damage to zealots.


Or wait... that you can land Terran structures to destroy interceptors!

Though apparently it's illegal in competitive games since it's a bug.

Anyway, you guys should check out this.

Epic strategies in 1998!

Who needs multiple copies of SC?
Show nested quote +
Does StarCraft support "spawning"?
It sure does. One StarCraft CD can support up to 8 players. When you install StarCraft on a system, you have the option to install a "spawned" copy of the game, which does not require the CD to join multiplayer games. A spawned copy uses the same CD key as the parent CD, and it can only join games created by the parent. Spawning works over Battle.net, too!


Technically SC2 sort of has this too (it supports two players). When you log in SC2-I and SC2-II but I think

Protoss strategy
Show nested quote +
Shields Upgrades
By far the most useful upgrade for the Protoss, the Plasma Shield upgrade will add to the shield maximum for all units and buildings. Combined with Armor upgrades, you can noticeably increase the lifespan of your units. As such, the Plasma Shield Upgrade should always be researched as early as possible.


Defiler
Show nested quote +
Here is a list of units that are NOT affected by Dark Swarm:

Terrans:

Firebats
Siege Tanks in Siege Mode (can still inflict splash damage)

Protoss:

Probes
Zealots
Dark Templar
Reavers (can still inflict splash damage)
Archons

Zerg:

Drones
Zerglings
Lurkers (can inflict both direct and splash damage)
Ultralisks
Broodlings
Infested Terrans (can inflict both direct and splash damage)


I remember in a pro game where a player used dark swarm against an army of archons and zealots. Wondered if they changed that in a patch or if the guide is wrong and meant it doesn't prevent archon splash damage (so the targeted unit doesn't take damage, but nearby units in dark swarm do).

The battle.net strategy site for SC1 is a fun read actually. It has lore info too for all the units and abilities.


Archons don't do full damage under swarm, only their splash damage works. i don't think that was ever patched
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 13 2012 04:30 GMT
#66
Dark Swarm is great against tanks and archons, because it reduces a lot of their damage.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
December 13 2012 10:01 GMT
#67
Forgot I had these in my SC battle chest.. What a funny read.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10672 Posts
December 13 2012 10:50 GMT
#68
This is amazing lol hahah thanks, I had prima strategy guide I wish I still had it, collectors item for me .T_T
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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
December 13 2012 11:58 GMT
#69
The best part is firebats are ALWAYS cost-effective against zerg ground units. Not usually or sometimes. ALWAYS.
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Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States342 Posts
December 14 2012 05:51 GMT
#70
I remember this book, I used to use it to recall the cheats for single player (i was a noob x.x)
Power overwhelming.
vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
December 14 2012 05:57 GMT
#71
On December 13 2012 20:58 GolemMadness wrote:
The best part is firebats are ALWAYS cost-effective against zerg ground units. Not usually or sometimes. ALWAYS.


2 zerlings vs 1 firebat: 50 minerals and 25 gas losing to 50 minerals without even killing one unit if the Zerg micros properly?
Cost effective.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
December 17 2012 17:07 GMT
#72
On December 14 2012 14:57 vOdToasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2012 20:58 GolemMadness wrote:
The best part is firebats are ALWAYS cost-effective against zerg ground units. Not usually or sometimes. ALWAYS.


2 zerlings vs 1 firebat: 50 minerals and 25 gas losing to 50 minerals without even killing one unit if the Zerg micros properly?
Cost effective.

What's micro? It isn't in the guide so it must not be good! You probably forgot to have the Firebat patrol instead of move to its desired destination.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
December 17 2012 17:24 GMT
#73
On December 13 2012 08:18 Hyperionnn wrote:
Great tactics, will definitely use them in my games

+ Show Spoiler +
What the fuck is "moving city", I fucking spat my drink


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hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 17 2012 19:09 GMT
#74
On December 13 2012 13:21 Goldfish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2012 11:00 Caihead wrote:
On December 12 2012 10:57 figq wrote:
Certainly illegal. Well, I've certainly seen and played many games where plague affected buildings, but didn't even realize it.


Next you will be telling me that you didn't know hydralisks did 50% damage to zealots.


Or wait... that you can land Terran structures to destroy interceptors!

Though apparently it's illegal in competitive games since it's a bug.

Anyway, you guys should check out this.

Epic strategies in 1998!

Who needs multiple copies of SC?
Show nested quote +
Does StarCraft support "spawning"?
It sure does. One StarCraft CD can support up to 8 players. When you install StarCraft on a system, you have the option to install a "spawned" copy of the game, which does not require the CD to join multiplayer games. A spawned copy uses the same CD key as the parent CD, and it can only join games created by the parent. Spawning works over Battle.net, too!


Of course nowadays, it's either F2P or full purchase (usually nothing in between like the above). But yeah, back then, all Blizzard games had easy LAN support (one copy of the game is enough).

Protoss strategy
Show nested quote +
Shields Upgrades
By far the most useful upgrade for the Protoss, the Plasma Shield upgrade will add to the shield maximum for all units and buildings. Combined with Armor upgrades, you can noticeably increase the lifespan of your units. As such, the Plasma Shield Upgrade should always be researched as early as possible.


Defiler
Show nested quote +
Here is a list of units that are NOT affected by Dark Swarm:

Terrans:

Firebats
Siege Tanks in Siege Mode (can still inflict splash damage)

Protoss:

Probes
Zealots
Dark Templar
Reavers (can still inflict splash damage)
Archons

Zerg:

Drones
Zerglings
Lurkers (can inflict both direct and splash damage)
Ultralisks
Broodlings
Infested Terrans (can inflict both direct and splash damage)


I remember in a pro game where a player used dark swarm against an army of archons and zealots. Wondered if they changed that in a patch or if the guide is wrong and meant it doesn't prevent archon splash damage (that is, the targeted unit doesn't take damage, but nearby units in dark swarm do?).

The battle.net strategy site for SC1 is a fun read actually. It has lore info too for all the units and abilities.


Holy shit there are a lot of mistakes there.

archons don't do full damage
reavers do do full damage
probes don't do damage
drones don't do damage.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
December 17 2012 19:42 GMT
#75
Just wanted to write how awesome that iloveoov game is, holy shit. That firebat a total hero.

Also, epic guide!! Flying-city strat sounds legit.
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