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classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
February 01 2017 05:33 GMT
#281
Sea is ranking All Time Top 5 for each race.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 05:45:00
February 01 2017 05:42 GMT
#282
Sea's All Time Top 5

Terran
01) Flash
02) Iloveoov
03) NaDa
04) Boxer
05) Fantasy

Protoss
01) Bisu
02) Stork
03) Nal_ra
04) Jangbi
05) Grrr

Zerg
01) Jaedong
02) Savior
03) July
04) ChoJJa
05) GoRush
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Zera
Profile Joined April 2010
Lithuania716 Posts
February 01 2017 06:22 GMT
#283
On February 01 2017 14:42 classicyellow83 wrote:

05) Grrr


Unexpected.

I would agree with all top-3, maybe I would only switch Nada with iloveoov
JD fanboy. #FPPS
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 06:46:19
February 01 2017 06:45 GMT
#284
On February 01 2017 15:22 Zera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 14:42 classicyellow83 wrote:

05) Grrr


Unexpected.

I would agree with all top-3, maybe I would only switch Nada with iloveoov


I would give 5 to Reach or Best

edit: or Garimto lol
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
February 01 2017 06:53 GMT
#285
On February 01 2017 15:22 Zera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 14:42 classicyellow83 wrote:

05) Grrr


Unexpected.

I would agree with all top-3, maybe I would only switch Nada with iloveoov

Sea's justification was that Grrr won everything b4 boxer arrived
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2340 Posts
February 01 2017 14:41 GMT
#286
On February 01 2017 15:45 duke91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2017 15:22 Zera wrote:
On February 01 2017 14:42 classicyellow83 wrote:

05) Grrr


Unexpected.

I would agree with all top-3, maybe I would only switch Nada with iloveoov


I would give 5 to Reach or Best

edit: or Garimto lol


definitely either Reach or Garimto.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
February 01 2017 14:59 GMT
#287
Didn't Grr say that he never really needed to practice? Without meaning disrespect to him, I don't see him in the same league as Jangbi/Nal_rA/Stork/Bisu. The game was just so different.
May the BeSt man win.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-01 15:30:33
February 01 2017 15:29 GMT
#288
Wait I just realized there is no YellOw wtf. I mean, YellOw has a 100% winrate against the #1 protoss.

Top 5 zerg for me
1) Jaedong
2) Savior
3) July
4) YellOw
5) Chojja
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10313 Posts
February 01 2017 16:18 GMT
#289
On February 02 2017 00:29 duke91 wrote:
Wait I just realized there is no YellOw wtf. I mean, YellOw has a 100% winrate against the #1 protoss.

Top 5 zerg for me
1) Jaedong
2) Savior
3) July
4) YellOw
5) Chojja

He definitely missed a golden opportunity to put YellOw in second after Jaedong.

Also, even Sea thinks Effort is not that good lol.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
eekmice
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States373 Posts
February 01 2017 18:50 GMT
#290
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
February 02 2017 08:46 GMT
#291
On February 02 2017 03:50 eekmice wrote:
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.


So who else would be 5? Gorush? Same category as Chojja. Maybe Effort because he is overlooked due to TBLS
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 02 2017 10:04 GMT
#292
On February 02 2017 03:50 eekmice wrote:
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.

Calm/Luxury never won a starleague.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
February 02 2017 10:45 GMT
#293
On February 02 2017 19:04 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 03:50 eekmice wrote:
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.

Calm/Luxury never won a starleague.

Yes they have. calm won 2009 Avalon MSL and Luxury won 2009 Lost Saga MSL.
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 02 2017 10:48 GMT
#294
On February 02 2017 19:45 classicyellow83 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 19:04 Harem wrote:
On February 02 2017 03:50 eekmice wrote:
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.

Calm/Luxury never won a starleague.

Yes they have. calm won 2009 Avalon MSL and Luxury won 2009 Lost Saga MSL.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague
Moderator。◕‿◕。
classicyellow83
Profile Joined June 2016
United States2393 Posts
February 02 2017 10:55 GMT
#295
On February 02 2017 19:48 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 19:45 classicyellow83 wrote:
On February 02 2017 19:04 Harem wrote:
On February 02 2017 03:50 eekmice wrote:
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.

Calm/Luxury never won a starleague.

Yes they have. calm won 2009 Avalon MSL and Luxury won 2009 Lost Saga MSL.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague

Ok
Reach!!! Come back to BW!!
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17734 Posts
February 02 2017 11:35 GMT
#296
Meh when I use starleague I'm still going to mean both osl and msl.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6834 Posts
February 02 2017 11:42 GMT
#297
On February 02 2017 19:48 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2017 19:45 classicyellow83 wrote:
On February 02 2017 19:04 Harem wrote:
On February 02 2017 03:50 eekmice wrote:
I generally agree with everything except for chojja. he was good but not amazing. I would put him in the same category as calm, effort, luxury as those who won 1 starleague and had a decent number of top 3-4 finishes but didn't have sustained dominance.

I would probably put yellow there instead of chojja just because it's still impressive that he got 2nd in so many tournaments despite never winning the big one.

Calm/Luxury never won a starleague.

Yes they have. calm won 2009 Avalon MSL and Luxury won 2009 Lost Saga MSL.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Starleague

but it is The starleague :d,damm i always thought they were the same lvl.do u think for koreans 1 osl > 2 msls ?
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
February 02 2017 14:07 GMT
#298
MSLs defined the careers of Oov, Savior, Bisu... I think it's kind of silly to insist that MSLs weren't as hard to win as OSLs. (And to me they are both starleagues even if the term is trademarked.) The MSL even had a better format, with a more sensible group stage and a Bo5 Ro8.

May the BeSt man win.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
February 02 2017 15:08 GMT
#299
lol. He wasn't saying OSL > MSL. He was saying Ongamenet Starleague != MBCGame StarCraft League.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6834 Posts
February 02 2017 16:22 GMT
#300
On February 03 2017 00:08 c3rberUs wrote:
lol. He wasn't saying OSL > MSL. He was saying Ongamenet Starleague != MBCGame StarCraft League.

i know it,but then i clicked in the link and read about the osl and legacy,so this is why i asked about the koreans opinion in the subject.sorry i wasnt clear about this.
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