EPTFlash's vP 2010 - Page 4
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don_kyuhote
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
On October 12 2012 02:12 baubo wrote: I really hated Flash at his peak simply because he would basically never make mistakes. RTS is suppose to be a game where players play at a high speed, making instantaneous decisions on the fly with limited information where you take risks. Flash wasn't that. He played more or less flawlessly. He knew exactly how much he could get away with through his macro-cheese. He knew exactly how to punish his opponent when they try the same thing. He knew exactly when to push out and where to engage, how to target fire his tanks, how to split his army just enough to attack multiple expansions. And it was boring. Part of what makes watching BW fun is that when the player you root for is ahead, you are still sitting there watching, hoping he doesn't mess up, hoping he tries to expand on his lead into victory. Also, when the player you root for is behind, you are still enthralled because you hope he can catch up by exploiting his opponent's mistakes and make a comeback. But with Flash at his peak, that entertainment is gone. Sometimes when I just see Flash get away with 14CC, I pretty much think he's won. Because either that extra econ will compound exponentially and he rolls out with his 200/200 army and wins, or his opponent tries to catch up and get killed by some timing attack. It takes a lot of the fun out of watching games. As a Flash fan, the games when he actually did make mistakes or questionable decisions probably stand out in my memory more than they do for Flash anti-fans (e.g., the finals against Bisu when he decided to backdoor Bisu and "contain" Bisu's main with a handful of tanks and rines above the mineral line, or when he took a fast third against M18M after failing to scout the 3 proxy gates, or the game against Dear with the barely hidden robo and canceled turrets). Those games were anything but standard or predictable and induced a lot of headscratching. But the recurring theme was that the Protoss player had to do some clever build to outsmart Flash. I found that to be great though, because it lent to much speculation about who was most likely to beat Flash and what a player needed to do to beat Flash. You had to really analyze his games to death and try to find some weakness in his seemingly impenetrable armor. The rarity of this occurrence made his losses all the more engaging and his wins more awe-inspiring. | ||
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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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HaXxorIzed
Australia8434 Posts
On one hand it obviously hurt like a truck as a Protoss player to see player after player go down to that - but Jangbi was able to get the last laugh, and the truth for me was watching Flash destroy was genuine mastery of the game in action. I'm guilty as charged of valuing a "perfect" game incredibly highly though. | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On October 12 2012 21:35 revy wrote: Ver himself was supposedly working a Flash final edit. Man... I wish it was here now. Thanks for the post, I can tell you kinda got screwed by the disappearance of the vods, it's really a shame. It brought back some good memories. Flash in Nov 2009, loses in PL to Best " My vP is kinda bad". Flash 2010 vP ~85%. Hmmm is Ver still active on TL? | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
Still active on TL? *sunglasses* VERy much so. + Show Spoiler + Yeeeaaaahh In all seriousness, yes Ver is quite active on the SC2 side. He's in charge of The Terran Help Me Thread and is probably 2nd best among terrans who make significant and regular posts on TL, behind only avilo. edit: actually ver seems to be doing better than avilo recently at least according to TLPD so I guess that makes him #1 | ||
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Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On October 16 2012 07:38 red4ce wrote: Still active on TL? *sunglasses* VERy much so. + Show Spoiler + Yeeeaaaahh In all seriousness, yes Ver is quite active on the SC2 side. He's in charge of The Terran Help Me Thread and is probably 2nd best among terrans who make significant and regular posts on TL, behind only avilo. edit: actually ver seems to be doing better than avilo recently at least according to TLPD so I guess that makes him #1 ver > avilo, lol anyhow i loved god of the battlefield, have been awaiting something similar for flash for ages. maybe if idra wants to take a crack at writing it, since he was a decentish BW terran? | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On October 16 2012 09:43 Shady Sands wrote: ver > avilo, lol anyhow i loved god of the battlefield, have been awaiting something similar for flash for ages. maybe if idra wants to take a crack at writing it, since he was a decentish BW terran? There's already a final edit about The Ultimate Weapon though. Granted this only covered Flash's pre-God era but it's not like Flash's achievements would ever go overlooked on this website. Personally I'd like to see a final edit on the Three Kings/neo-Kings or the 6 dragons. I don't think it's necessary to have someone as good as Idra to write a final edit. Writing skill, passion and perspective are all one really needs. Granted Idra is quite capable of in depth writing so with the right editor he probably could do it. I doubt it'll ever happen though given Idra's relationship with TL. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
People were so desperate that guardians became almost standard and as per usual, he countered with wraiths while suffering minimal damage. | ||
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blueblimp
Canada297 Posts
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EffervescentAureola
United States410 Posts
Doesn't matter if you were a Flash fan or not, a KT Rolster fan or not, if you were a fan of BW, you had a special appreciation and a soft spot for Flash, especially now that the pro BW scene is all but over. | ||
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