I have the free vs FlaSh series VOD saved on my computer.
Edit: The double armory build is from 2008.
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Battleship789
United States415 Posts
I have the free vs FlaSh series VOD saved on my computer. Edit: The double armory build is from 2008. | ||
sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
But now when I look back on them, I think the games were brilliant. | ||
Shady Sands
United States4021 Posts
On October 12 2012 02:24 BisuDagger wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2012 02:12 baubo wrote: I really hated Flash at his peak simply because he would basically never make mistakes. RTS is suppose to be a game where players play at a high speed, making instantaneous decisions on the fly with limited information where you take risks. Flash wasn't that. He played more or less flawlessly. He knew exactly how much he could get away with through his macro-cheese. He knew exactly how to punish his opponent when they try the same thing. He knew exactly when to push out and where to engage, how to target fire his tanks, how to split his army just enough to attack multiple expansions. And it was boring. Part of what makes watching BW fun is that when the player you root for is ahead, you are still sitting there watching, hoping he doesn't mess up, hoping he tries to expand on his lead into victory. Also, when the player you root for is behind, you are still enthralled because you hope he can catch up by exploiting his opponent's mistakes and make a comeback. But with Flash at his peak, that entertainment is gone. Sometimes when I just see Flash get away with 14CC, I pretty much think he's won. Because either that extra econ will compound exponentially and he rolls out with his 200/200 army and wins, or his opponent tries to catch up and get killed by some timing attack. It takes a lot of the fun out of watching games. I think that's how most flash antifans felt. I was tired of him winning everything. You really had no doubt he would win. And at that time the TL scene was growing and every new member only saw this same boring player when over and over again. But now years later, I actually go back and I'm just awed by his games. They are fantastic and beautiful works of art. I can't help but be impressed by him. The way he measured everything in his booth. His mom watching him as he won. I wish I could just give flash a hug. Protoss was indeed in a rut during these years. ZvP was ruled by 3 hatch hydra and it looked grim. With Flash wiping face, it looked like my favorite race would never come back. LeeSang was so fearsome. Seeing Flash lose a game during his dominance meant that his opponent played a perfect game against him. It wasn't because he made mistakes. It rose the protoss talent to a new level just to have the skill to stay in game with him. So much pain and fun to think about at the same time. <3 Sniff. This quote makes me wanna cry a little inside | ||
Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
Of course, I can understand how a lot of fans didn't like seeing their favorites getting crushed over and over again by Flash. Seeing Jaedong losing to him badly could be pretty depressing actually. But overall he just raised the bar for everyone and delivered some really really sick BW. God I loved his "rivalry" with Best. Nukes, bunker rushes, and that dropship game on Fortress that pulled KT out of last place in PL... so good. | ||
red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On October 12 2012 02:07 nbaker wrote: I'll always remember when people were saying Flash was weak against Best and he 3-0'ed him in I think the NATE MSL. Such an inspired, intelligent player. I remember when people still thought Flash was weak against BeSt prior to the 2011 proleague finals. | ||
chaosTheory_14cc
Canada1270 Posts
On October 12 2012 05:30 red4ce wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2012 02:07 nbaker wrote: I'll always remember when people were saying Flash was weak against Best and he 3-0'ed him in I think the NATE MSL. Such an inspired, intelligent player. I remember when people still thought Flash was weak against BeSt prior to the 2011 proleague finals. I guess that's why he was sent out for the ace match despite losing to Flash earlier in the series. I remember the outrage in the stream chat because Bisu didn't get sent out. At no point in that final game did I think Flash could lose. Anyways as a Flash/KT fan, watching Flash dominate 2010 with his TvP was simply amazing. I never did get tired of him destroying every protoss he played. And Korean Air was great, but I can still remember how upset I felt when he lost to Effort. | ||
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FlaShFTW
United States10131 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18385 Posts
On October 12 2012 06:20 FlaShFTW wrote: flash basically made it so that if protoss didnt FE or 12 nex, terran would have a huge advantage. and if they did fe or 12 nex, flash would punish it. so broken ![]() I actually rated scouted (which happened 99% of the time) 12 nex the worst opening vs Terran, especially Flash. Since terran can either try and bunker rush the protoss or just get a free third. I am pretty sure Flash had more wins vs 12 nex than any other opening. | ||
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Sweden16951 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10131 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Until Jangbi on pathfinder. That was the difference between Flash vs Best on Circuit Breaker and Flash vs Jangbi on Gladiator: Best pretended to have good macro and got a "fast" 4-base when in reality, flash already had 4 bases when best had only 3. It was pathetic to see this so-called "macro monster" lose at his own game. Also, Flash vs Best on Fortress was absolutely terrifying. Best had absolutely no plan to counter Flash. | ||
moochu
Australia374 Posts
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BlazeFury01
United States1460 Posts
On October 12 2012 00:09 vOdToasT wrote: IloveOov Made TvZ look pretty imbalanced for a while, with his insane win streak. And then, JulyZerg! Savior. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=5&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z#tblt-851-1-default-0-Savior | ||
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
I feel, more than anything else, the maps ended Flash's TvP reign. Good luck maintaing a huge win % on the likes of Gladiator/Pathfinder/Chain Reaction/Jade/Aztec. | ||
Release
United States4397 Posts
Flash would probably still be #1 everything (or maybe #2 behind Jangbi in TvP/PvT) if it weren't for everything working against him. Oh. And his injuries. | ||
rift
1819 Posts
On October 12 2012 11:21 BlazeFury01 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 12 2012 00:09 vOdToasT wrote: IloveOov Made TvZ look pretty imbalanced for a while, with his insane win streak. And then, JulyZerg! Savior. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=5&part=games&league=standard&vs=Z#tblt-851-1-default-0-Savior No, the point is July ended his 25-0 TvZ streak mid-2004 and was the first Zerg to have a winning record against him. Savior also stomped oov, but that came later. more relevant: | ||
revy
United States1524 Posts
On October 12 2012 01:00 Dante08 wrote: I would love to see the end product of your article, cant wait! Also I remember Shady Sands or someone is going to do an article on Flash similar to Savior's God of the Battlefield. That would be fucking awesome. Ver himself was supposedly working a Flash final edit. Man... I wish it was here now. Thanks for the post, I can tell you kinda got screwed by the disappearance of the vods, it's really a shame. It brought back some good memories. Flash in Nov 2009, loses in PL to Best " My vP is kinda bad". Flash 2010 vP ~85%. | ||
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