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Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
October 05 2012 04:56 GMT
#1
Hey guys,

I'm not exactly sure if it's taboo to talk about using Chaos Launcher (not sure why or why not), but first I'd like to send my props to all of those who crafted it: without it I never would have been able to play the legendary game. Now, I do have a problem with Chaos Launcher completely freezing my computer after about an hour or so of play. Not that I'm worried about getting away from the game at the end of every hour, I do worry that I'll be playing a long online game when the freeze occurs. Can anyone help on this situation? One reason why I think this is so is because my computer (laptop) cannot support a 640x480 resolution and in general has performance issues with older games. Note, I have no graphics issues and everything looks/sounds perfect or as it should. I don't want to straight-up post my computer's specs because I'm afraid that will avert attention from any real problems. I hope I'm making sense here and I'd appreciate any help!
biryusky
Profile Joined September 2012
70 Posts
October 05 2012 06:12 GMT
#2
This is because the 64bit OS does not support the 32bit. It crashes while converting a 32bit game to be playable on 64 bit OS. is ur OS windows 7 or vista? then it will freeze up the entire computer. I had a similar problem. but if u use a patcher named w7ddpatcher it will solve ur problem. u can play bw as long as you like and it will never crash.

go to this link and download w7ddpatcher.

http://vogons.zetafleet.com/download.php?id=8033&sid=c99d22b7e4d2aa929abba65b4fbc356e

the instructions are here:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=25534
so basically u run it, load broodwar (not chaoslauncher, starcraft.exe where u installed it ) into it, click on patch It will take a few times for it to patch, and it will say that it has patched when it has been patched. After that u can just run chaoslauncher and load it. Then it should work fine
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
October 05 2012 06:44 GMT
#3
That only fixes the garbed colors issue, from what I've seen. Won't do any damage to use it anyway, but I don't know if it'l help the crashes.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
October 05 2012 09:00 GMT
#4
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.

Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
October 05 2012 15:14 GMT
#5
I appreciate the responses! 2Pac got it right though because I have no issues with any sort of graphics, not to mention I have tried most of the other fixes posted here (I think that one too). Regardless, the problem is still unsolved.
On October 05 2012 18:00 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.


I currently play Chaos Launcher in windowed mode and frankly I love it. As I said, my laptop does not support a 640x480 at all, so I had the idea that running the game in a windowed mode would yield great results. That's when I found Chaos Launcher. I do believe you're absolutely right about the DirectDraw incompatibilities and I think I'll definitely try running an app like Skype in the background. I'll let you know the results! Thanks for the responses!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
October 05 2012 16:19 GMT
#6
On October 06 2012 00:14 Jasiwel wrote:
I appreciate the responses! 2Pac got it right though because I have no issues with any sort of graphics, not to mention I have tried most of the other fixes posted here (I think that one too). Regardless, the problem is still unsolved.
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 18:00 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.


I currently play Chaos Launcher in windowed mode and frankly I love it. As I said, my laptop does not support a 640x480 at all, so I had the idea that running the game in a windowed mode would yield great results. That's when I found Chaos Launcher. I do believe you're absolutely right about the DirectDraw incompatibilities and I think I'll definitely try running an app like Skype in the background. I'll let you know the results! Thanks for the responses!

I meant you need to CLOSE most applications in the background, not run them
Especially applications like Skype.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 05 2012 16:30 GMT
#7
Yeah, skype is a bitch when you're playing, even if you have it just on DND. I miss my windows XP compatibility. T_T
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LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
October 05 2012 17:42 GMT
#8
On October 05 2012 18:00 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.



what we rly need is for some1 to make a new windowed mode, borderless fullscreen. Then you've got your windowed, but it has no borders and is at the same resolution as your screen, just like most games have it nowadays. Alot better for alt-tabbing (it won't lag) and would fix the crashing.
Too bad my programming skills aren't good enough for that;/
LML
FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
October 05 2012 18:30 GMT
#9
Hey, just so y'all know, you saved me with this thread. Helped me fix both the color-bug and my windowed mode crashing.

Thank you very much!!!!
Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
October 05 2012 18:38 GMT
#10
On October 06 2012 02:42 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 18:00 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.



what we rly need is for some1 to make a new windowed mode, borderless fullscreen. Then you've got your windowed, but it has no borders and is at the same resolution as your screen, just like most games have it nowadays. Alot better for alt-tabbing (it won't lag) and would fix the crashing.
Too bad my programming skills aren't good enough for that;/

As a matter of fact, XeNotRoN (the author of original w-mode plugin) has been working on a new and improved version of window mode for like last 2-3 years. But I think he's pretty busy in real life and thinks that people don't even play BW anymore so he still hasn't finished it yet. It's pretty hard to get in contact with him, but it would be awesome if we could let him know that a lot of people would love the new w-mode so hopefully he finishes it.
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 22:03:16
October 05 2012 22:03 GMT
#11
On October 06 2012 01:19 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 00:14 Jasiwel wrote:
I appreciate the responses! 2Pac got it right though because I have no issues with any sort of graphics, not to mention I have tried most of the other fixes posted here (I think that one too). Regardless, the problem is still unsolved.
On October 05 2012 18:00 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.


I currently play Chaos Launcher in windowed mode and frankly I love it. As I said, my laptop does not support a 640x480 at all, so I had the idea that running the game in a windowed mode would yield great results. That's when I found Chaos Launcher. I do believe you're absolutely right about the DirectDraw incompatibilities and I think I'll definitely try running an app like Skype in the background. I'll let you know the results! Thanks for the responses!

I meant you need to CLOSE most applications in the background, not run them
Especially applications like Skype.

Ohhh...if that's the case then I'm still in the dark. I don't run Skype, Xfire, nor Steam in the background while playing. The only applications are default ones that I cannot turn off, like my antivirus and audio systems. Could something in my GPU or BIOS be a result?
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
October 05 2012 22:07 GMT
#12
No, the freeze can still happen even without any applications besides BW running. But programs like Skype, Xfire, Steam only makes the crash happen sooner. Anyways, if you're used to playing in Window Mode then there's nothing to worry about
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
October 05 2012 22:27 GMT
#13
On October 06 2012 07:07 2Pacalypse- wrote:
No, the freeze can still happen even without any applications besides BW running. But programs like Skype, Xfire, Steam only makes the crash happen sooner. Anyways, if you're used to playing in Window Mode then there's nothing to worry about

I don't think you quite understand. I'm already in Windowed Mode and it all freezes anyways. Maybe it's just my computer, but it happens in Windowed Mode regardless of what's running in the background, but I'm positive you are absolutely right that the less you have running in the background equates to longer playing time. Still, I appreciate the persistent and reassuring responses (and that one guy also resolving his issues as well)!
2Pacalypse-
Profile Joined October 2006
Croatia9510 Posts
October 05 2012 22:39 GMT
#14
Oh, then you're having some other kind of problem, that is not related to DirectDraw issues on Windows 7 :/

What kind of freeze does exactly happen? Does only your Starcraft freezes or the whole system? Can you open task manager or get any response at all? Does the freeze happen only during Starcraft?
Moderator"We're a community of geniuses because we've found how to extract 95% of the feeling of doing something amazing without actually doing anything." - Chill
mmschocolate
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil20 Posts
October 06 2012 01:22 GMT
#15
Try this:

Inside a Starcraft game (just make a game vs AI):
- Go to Options -> Video
- Uncheck "Enable Color Cycling" (this is entirely related to DirectDraw)
This will make water look weird, but I've heard from some people that it fixes freezes

Also, there are some other options I set just in case:
- Options -> Video -> Disable Unit Portraits
- Options -> Speed -> Enable CPU Throttling
Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
October 06 2012 01:45 GMT
#16
^Hmm, I'll try this.
On October 06 2012 07:39 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Oh, then you're having some other kind of problem, that is not related to DirectDraw issues on Windows 7 :/

What kind of freeze does exactly happen? Does only your Starcraft freezes or the whole system? Can you open task manager or get any response at all? Does the freeze happen only during Starcraft?

It freezes my entire computer to where I have to reset it and it only happens during StarCraft after an hour or so.
WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
October 06 2012 03:37 GMT
#17
Do you use plain and simple starcraft or do you use some plugins aswell and if what kind of plugins? (wmode f.e)
small dicks have great firepower
Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
October 07 2012 03:33 GMT
#18
On October 06 2012 12:37 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:
Do you use plain and simple starcraft or do you use some plugins aswell and if what kind of plugins? (wmode f.e)

I use Chaos Launcher with with Chaos, LatencyChanger, RepFix, Stormplugin, and Windowed Plugins.
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
October 07 2012 11:24 GMT
#19
On October 06 2012 10:45 Jasiwel wrote:
^Hmm, I'll try this.
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 07:39 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Oh, then you're having some other kind of problem, that is not related to DirectDraw issues on Windows 7 :/

What kind of freeze does exactly happen? Does only your Starcraft freezes or the whole system? Can you open task manager or get any response at all? Does the freeze happen only during Starcraft?

It freezes my entire computer to where I have to reset it and it only happens during StarCraft after an hour or so.


what if you restart BW after each game?
Does it still occur then?
LML
LML
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Germany1768 Posts
October 07 2012 11:49 GMT
#20
On October 06 2012 03:38 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 02:42 LML wrote:
On October 05 2012 18:00 2Pacalypse- wrote:
It doesn't matter if your OS is 64bit or 32bit. This is the most common problem of Brood War (Chaoslancher doesn't have anything to do with it) with Windows 7, due to Windows 7 not working properly with DirectDraw applications. Things that can help you avoid these random crashes is to open as few programs as possible when playing (the biggest culprit are the programs like Skype that shows an overlay over Starcraft when someone from your contact list joins/leaves Skype).

Also, the only workaround that fixes this problem perfectly is Window Mode plugin in Chaoslauncher though it will take some getting used to playing in it. If the SC window is too small, try pressing Alt + F9 to make it double its size, although then it could be too big on some resolutions. You could also use the default size in Window Mode (which is a 640x480 window), but lower your desktop resolution to 800x600 manually which will in turn make the SC window seem bigger.

And if you know your way around computers, you can try my suggestion from this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93382&currentpage=24#461 which enables you to play BW in fullscreen with some minor annoyances.



what we rly need is for some1 to make a new windowed mode, borderless fullscreen. Then you've got your windowed, but it has no borders and is at the same resolution as your screen, just like most games have it nowadays. Alot better for alt-tabbing (it won't lag) and would fix the crashing.
Too bad my programming skills aren't good enough for that;/

As a matter of fact, XeNotRoN (the author of original w-mode plugin) has been working on a new and improved version of window mode for like last 2-3 years. But I think he's pretty busy in real life and thinks that people don't even play BW anymore so he still hasn't finished it yet. It's pretty hard to get in contact with him, but it would be awesome if we could let him know that a lot of people would love the new w-mode so hopefully he finishes it.


I've sent him an email, let's see if he will reply some time soon with any new information.
LML
Jasiwel
Profile Joined June 2012
United States146 Posts
October 07 2012 16:20 GMT
#21
On October 07 2012 20:24 LML wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2012 10:45 Jasiwel wrote:
^Hmm, I'll try this.
On October 06 2012 07:39 2Pacalypse- wrote:
Oh, then you're having some other kind of problem, that is not related to DirectDraw issues on Windows 7 :/

What kind of freeze does exactly happen? Does only your Starcraft freezes or the whole system? Can you open task manager or get any response at all? Does the freeze happen only during Starcraft?

It freezes my entire computer to where I have to reset it and it only happens during StarCraft after an hour or so.


what if you restart BW after each game?
Does it still occur then?

I found this is the only legitimate option I can take to be honest. I play for approximately an hour, give and take 15 minutes, then I quit/restart. However, the problem is that if I'm playing a game that lasts longer than that time period, my game would freeze while playing someone and that wouldn't be fair for neither of us.
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