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Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
September 14 2012 20:19 GMT
#21
On September 15 2012 05:14 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
sAviOr

Are you really that surprised?
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maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 20:23:02
September 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#22
On September 15 2012 05:19 Superouman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 05:14 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
sAviOr

Are you really that surprised?


You can be sad without being surprised. Based on in-game merit there's no denying he should be there. His exclusion is understandable, but seeing a list like this after the end of Korean professional Brood War and lamenting the exclusion of one of its greats only makes sense, even if the reasoning for that exclusion is understood. Savior was one of the best to ever play the game, even if Ma Jae Yoon was an idiot/douchebag/whatever insult you want to throw at him.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#23
Very nice list! I'm very happy they decided to put Grrrr... in despite him not making the cut-off. He belongs there.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8178 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 20:27:30
September 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#24
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
September 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#25
I think this is honestly the best list. People who cry for Zero and Effort and the like... Find one name on the list you would replace them with and explain why. No one who knows the value of these names would remove them imo.
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Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 20:33:27
September 14 2012 20:33 GMT
#26
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...
It's the hall of fame, not the record of who has the most accomplishments. Savior doesn't deserve the honor of being apart of the hall of fame.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
September 14 2012 20:34 GMT
#27
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...

I just want to remind every Savior supporter that this is eSports Hall of Fame, not Best Players Ever and not Most Dominant Players Ever and not Most SL Titles list. Cheating is against sportsmanship, just as much as doping, and therefore he has no place in a hall of fame dedicated to the SPORT HE CHEATED IN. People who get caught doping get their medals taken away. Savior lost everything when he cheated. That is ALL. There really can be no debate about this.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#28
Make it the ''Hall of Infamy'' and I'd accept Savior in there. In a Hall of Fame, no fucking way.

We should try to stay away from that topic though, it's guaranteed to go downhill really fast. XD
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#29
Weird that the least successful race has the most people in the hall of fame. Overall I would have liked it if they inducted a select few every year like professional sports instead of all at once.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
September 14 2012 20:40 GMT
#30
I voted for Grrr... glad to see him on there despite not winning from the votes.
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10361 Posts
September 14 2012 20:50 GMT
#31
On September 15 2012 05:36 setzer wrote:
Weird that the least successful race has the most people in the hall of fame. Overall I would have liked it if they inducted a select few every year like professional sports instead of all at once.

Maybe they'll have tiered entry? Like year 1 = 20 graduates, 1st class. Year 2 = 10/20/30 graduates, 2nd class. Etc.

As far as the race thing, it makes sense exactly for the reason you mentioned - due to the fact that no dominating force came about, the dominance in what is effectively 1/3rd of the game was spread over more people, for a variety of reasons and over the same period of time as fewer people in other races.
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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#32
Gr... Made it! :D
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
September 14 2012 22:15 GMT
#33
Why are people still mentioning his name in a eSports thread?

Seriously
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10552 Posts
September 14 2012 22:55 GMT
#34
GRRR!!!! yeahh!!!!!!!

RIP savior
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 14 2012 23:20 GMT
#35
All the people who deserved to get in got in so I'm happy with the list. Pleasantly surprised Grrr got in. Glad to see his accomplishments haven't been forgotten. Can anyone shed some light for me on Gorush? With only a single MSL win I wouldn't have figured him to have made the 60% cut off line.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 00:03:38
September 15 2012 00:03 GMT
#36
On September 15 2012 05:14 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
sAviOr

Yeah where is sAviOr?
Edit: If they didn't put him in because of the match making scandal I understandz
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 15 2012 00:13 GMT
#37
It kind of hurts a little to not see Savior in that list. Even though I know he shouldn't be in there, it's still sad.
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Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
September 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#38
Very good list, all those players deserve it
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 15 2012 00:33 GMT
#39
Thank god the jury had the sense to put in Grrr... and Garimto, they totally deserve it.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 15 2012 00:35 GMT
#40
On September 15 2012 03:56 N.geNuity wrote:
poor zero lol.

still a bit sad no modern era zerg except JD (gorush and july played recent but are not that modern era in origin/style) is on the list. Especially the last zerg OSL champions besides jaedong in effort and ggplay had got like 45%.

Still a solid list!


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