• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:34
CEST 19:34
KST 02:34
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2912Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format12[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!1Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back9BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Interview with an American 16 Year Old Grandmaster Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29 Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format
Tourneys
WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4!
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11041 users

eSports Hall of Fame Roster - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
September 14 2012 20:19 GMT
#21
On September 15 2012 05:14 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
sAviOr

Are you really that surprised?
Search "[SO]" on B.net to find all my maps ||| Cloud Kingdom / Turbo Cruise '84 / Bone Temple / Eternal Empire / Zen / Purity and Industry / Golden Wall / Fortitude / Beckett Industries / Waterfall
maareek
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2042 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 20:23:02
September 14 2012 20:22 GMT
#22
On September 15 2012 05:19 Superouman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 05:14 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
sAviOr

Are you really that surprised?


You can be sad without being surprised. Based on in-game merit there's no denying he should be there. His exclusion is understandable, but seeing a list like this after the end of Korean professional Brood War and lamenting the exclusion of one of its greats only makes sense, even if the reasoning for that exclusion is understood. Savior was one of the best to ever play the game, even if Ma Jae Yoon was an idiot/douchebag/whatever insult you want to throw at him.
FrozenArbiter: Obless PvT master
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 14 2012 20:23 GMT
#23
Very nice list! I'm very happy they decided to put Grrrr... in despite him not making the cut-off. He belongs there.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 20:27:30
September 14 2012 20:27 GMT
#24
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10345 Posts
September 14 2012 20:31 GMT
#25
I think this is honestly the best list. People who cry for Zero and Effort and the like... Find one name on the list you would replace them with and explain why. No one who knows the value of these names would remove them imo.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-14 20:33:27
September 14 2012 20:33 GMT
#26
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...
It's the hall of fame, not the record of who has the most accomplishments. Savior doesn't deserve the honor of being apart of the hall of fame.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10345 Posts
September 14 2012 20:34 GMT
#27
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...

I just want to remind every Savior supporter that this is eSports Hall of Fame, not Best Players Ever and not Most Dominant Players Ever and not Most SL Titles list. Cheating is against sportsmanship, just as much as doping, and therefore he has no place in a hall of fame dedicated to the SPORT HE CHEATED IN. People who get caught doping get their medals taken away. Savior lost everything when he cheated. That is ALL. There really can be no debate about this.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
September 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#28
Make it the ''Hall of Infamy'' and I'd accept Savior in there. In a Hall of Fame, no fucking way.

We should try to stay away from that topic though, it's guaranteed to go downhill really fast. XD
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 14 2012 20:36 GMT
#29
Weird that the least successful race has the most people in the hall of fame. Overall I would have liked it if they inducted a select few every year like professional sports instead of all at once.
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
September 14 2012 20:40 GMT
#30
I voted for Grrr... glad to see him on there despite not winning from the votes.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10345 Posts
September 14 2012 20:50 GMT
#31
On September 15 2012 05:36 setzer wrote:
Weird that the least successful race has the most people in the hall of fame. Overall I would have liked it if they inducted a select few every year like professional sports instead of all at once.

Maybe they'll have tiered entry? Like year 1 = 20 graduates, 1st class. Year 2 = 10/20/30 graduates, 2nd class. Etc.

As far as the race thing, it makes sense exactly for the reason you mentioned - due to the fact that no dominating force came about, the dominance in what is effectively 1/3rd of the game was spread over more people, for a variety of reasons and over the same period of time as fewer people in other races.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 14 2012 21:21 GMT
#32
Gr... Made it! :D
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
September 14 2012 22:15 GMT
#33
Why are people still mentioning his name in a eSports thread?

Seriously
ppp
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10525 Posts
September 14 2012 22:55 GMT
#34
GRRR!!!! yeahh!!!!!!!

RIP savior
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
TL+ Member
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
September 14 2012 23:20 GMT
#35
All the people who deserved to get in got in so I'm happy with the list. Pleasantly surprised Grrr got in. Glad to see his accomplishments haven't been forgotten. Can anyone shed some light for me on Gorush? With only a single MSL win I wouldn't have figured him to have made the 60% cut off line.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 00:03:38
September 15 2012 00:03 GMT
#36
On September 15 2012 05:14 Boundz(DarKo) wrote:
sAviOr

Yeah where is sAviOr?
Edit: If they didn't put him in because of the match making scandal I understandz
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 15 2012 00:13 GMT
#37
It kind of hurts a little to not see Savior in that list. Even though I know he shouldn't be in there, it's still sad.
Hello
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
September 15 2012 00:21 GMT
#38
Very good list, all those players deserve it
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 15 2012 00:33 GMT
#39
Thank god the jury had the sense to put in Grrr... and Garimto, they totally deserve it.
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
September 15 2012 00:35 GMT
#40
On September 15 2012 03:56 N.geNuity wrote:
poor zero lol.

still a bit sad no modern era zerg except JD (gorush and july played recent but are not that modern era in origin/style) is on the list. Especially the last zerg OSL champions besides jaedong in effort and ggplay had got like 45%.

Still a solid list!


The fan voters hate Effort

Prev 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 26m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 256
CosmosSc2 46
BRAT_OK 27
MindelVK 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4099
Light 569
Zeus 285
ggaemo 182
firebathero 161
Dewaltoss 42
Movie 41
ToSsGirL 37
soO 31
Hyun 30
[ Show more ]
910 25
scan(afreeca) 21
Yoon 17
Barracks 17
Sacsri 14
Rock 12
Dota 2
Gorgc8920
qojqva1026
League of Legends
Doublelift3494
KnowMe89
Counter-Strike
FalleN 2055
fl0m1583
x6flipin425
adren_tv103
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0164
Other Games
Grubby1785
singsing1360
Liquid`RaSZi1202
Beastyqt517
ceh9478
crisheroes162
Livibee118
XaKoH 100
SteadfastSC73
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2827
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV515
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 5
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2339
Other Games
• imaqtpie647
• Shiphtur310
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
15h 26m
CrankTV Team League
17h 26m
Replay Cast
1d 15h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dragon vs Hawk
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
3 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

YSL S3
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.