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GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
September 15 2012 00:50 GMT
#41
Zero definitely did not deserve to make it in. I mean, what exactly has he accomplished?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
September 15 2012 01:18 GMT
#42
Hall of Shame:

SaviOr
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
September 15 2012 01:20 GMT
#43
Nice roster, I'm very pleased with it.
Thanks for sharing
o choro é livre
RYZmooN
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 02:03:31
September 15 2012 02:03 GMT
#44
The awesome moment when you still know every single 1 of them.
BROOD WAR FOR EVER!!!
altho im kinda sad none of the CJ Zergs made it... =/
(excluding sAviOr for obvious reason... dont wanna argue about that... T^T)
How do u doto?
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 15 2012 02:10 GMT
#45
I like how they used the whitest picture they could find of Grrr so the contrast is hilarious between all the Koreans and him. It looks like they bleached his face.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 02:42:28
September 15 2012 02:41 GMT
#46
So much Protoss o.O

I was really hoping to see (Z)ZerO or (Z)EffOrt....they were my favorites over the years I watched.

It seems like the numbers favor older players, or is my view just totally skewed?
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 15 2012 02:53 GMT
#47
Every single Protoss on the list there is a legend, and deserves to be there. The 3 Kings, 2 Neo Kings, the best of the Dragons, and Grrrr... Its hard for me to even compare their legacy with someone like Zero, although I suppose you can make a case for Effort.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
September 15 2012 03:00 GMT
#48
On September 15 2012 05:34 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 05:27 Biff The Understudy wrote:
And Savior is not there.

/list.

Ok, Savior is a bad guy, he cheated, whatever you want, but he has been the most dominant zerg, one of the five or so best players ever, the first to be called bonjwa and the initiator of zerg modern thinking. And definitly the most influential player on zerg's general theory, strategy, build orders and tactics.

But oh, let's pretend he didn't exist because huuu herm, he cheated, you know...

I guess it doesn't matter that compared to him, three quarters of those players have achieved almost nothing...

I just want to remind every Savior supporter that this is eSports Hall of Fame, not Best Players Ever and not Most Dominant Players Ever and not Most SL Titles list. Cheating is against sportsmanship, just as much as doping, and therefore he has no place in a hall of fame dedicated to the SPORT HE CHEATED IN. People who get caught doping get their medals taken away. Savior lost everything when he cheated. That is ALL. There really can be no debate about this.


Don't compare cheating and match fixing. He earned all his wins.
Watching Jaedong play purifies my eyes. -Coach Ju Hoon
Burns
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2300 Posts
September 15 2012 03:16 GMT
#49
its such a happy and sad post at the same time
Thinking about all the great players
but then BW is coming to an end
hopefully we can have a nice hall of fame for all the star2 players when that comes to an end
What do you mean you heard me during the night, these are quiet pants!
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 03:45:38
September 15 2012 03:44 GMT
#50
On September 15 2012 11:53 Sentenal wrote:
Every single Protoss on the list there is a legend, and deserves to be there. The 3 Kings, 2 Neo Kings, the best of the Dragons, and Grrrr... Its hard for me to even compare their legacy with someone like Zero, although I suppose you can make a case for Effort.


There is a reason that you had a list of titles for people.... then grrr. As cool as grrr is, no one would be considering him if he wasn't a foreigner. There isn't anyone I felt got left off the list that should be ahead of him, but I don't think that someone should be on the list just because they aren't korean.

I'm also not a fan of chojja or kingdom being on there. I think that the players that don't have multiple titles should either have a whole mess of silvers (yellow, fantasy, and stork) or have ridiculously long careers and very strong proleague showings (gorush, anytime and xellos). I'm kind of on the fence on those last three as well. At least there was no one I felt that should be on the list that got left off.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
theSILENT
Profile Joined July 2012
United States2 Posts
September 15 2012 03:50 GMT
#51
honestly i know he wasnt the best but i wouldve loved to see them put KT.violet on the list
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 03:59:38
September 15 2012 03:54 GMT
#52
On September 15 2012 12:44 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 11:53 Sentenal wrote:
Every single Protoss on the list there is a legend, and deserves to be there. The 3 Kings, 2 Neo Kings, the best of the Dragons, and Grrrr... Its hard for me to even compare their legacy with someone like Zero, although I suppose you can make a case for Effort.


There is a reason that you had a list of titles for people.... then grrr. As cool as grrr is, no one would be considering him if he wasn't a foreigner. There isn't anyone I felt got left off the list that should be ahead of him, but I don't think that someone should be on the list just because they aren't korean.

I'm also not a fan of chojja or kingdom being on there. I think that the players that don't have multiple titles should either have a whole mess of silvers (yellow, fantasy, and stork) or have ridiculously long careers and very strong proleague showings (gorush, anytime and xellos). I'm kind of on the fence on those last three as well. At least there was no one I felt that should be on the list that got left off.

But you are talking in comparison to someone like Zero or Effort, right? Effort has 1 OSL, and Zero has nothing. Anytime has an OSL gold and an OSL Silver, not to mention his status as one of the 3 Neo Kings. Grrr... also has an OSL gold, not to mention hes like one of the original good Protosses (basically, hes like the pre-pre-modern BW representative there), and the only non-Korean OSL winner.

Of that list, I think you could make a case for Effort over like Xellos or Gorush... Maybe Chojja? But I think that most everyone else is pretty legit for being in the Hall of Fame.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:04:25
September 15 2012 04:02 GMT
#53
The Maestro shall always be remembered...

On September 15 2012 12:00 L3gendary wrote:
Don't compare cheating and match fixing. He earned all his wins.


This is true; as a tactician, he was second to none.
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 15 2012 04:04 GMT
#54
On September 15 2012 12:54 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 12:44 hacklebeast wrote:
On September 15 2012 11:53 Sentenal wrote:
Every single Protoss on the list there is a legend, and deserves to be there. The 3 Kings, 2 Neo Kings, the best of the Dragons, and Grrrr... Its hard for me to even compare their legacy with someone like Zero, although I suppose you can make a case for Effort.


There is a reason that you had a list of titles for people.... then grrr. As cool as grrr is, no one would be considering him if he wasn't a foreigner. There isn't anyone I felt got left off the list that should be ahead of him, but I don't think that someone should be on the list just because they aren't korean.

I'm also not a fan of chojja or kingdom being on there. I think that the players that don't have multiple titles should either have a whole mess of silvers (yellow, fantasy, and stork) or have ridiculously long careers and very strong proleague showings (gorush, anytime and xellos). I'm kind of on the fence on those last three as well. At least there was no one I felt that should be on the list that got left off.

But you are talking in comparison to someone like Zero or Effort, right? Effort has 1 OSL, and Zero has nothing. Anytime has an OSL gold and an OSL Silver, not to mention his status as one of the 3 Neo Kings. Grrr... also has an OSL gold, not to mention hes like one of the original good Protosses (basically, hes like the pre-pre-modern BW representative there), and the only non-Korean OSL winner.

Of that list, I think you could make a case for Effort over like Xellos or Gorush... Maybe Chojja? But I think that most everyone else is pretty legit for being in the Hall of Fame.


No. I like chojja, xellos, anytime, ect. over anyone else. I don't want them replaced, I want the list smaller.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:11:48
September 15 2012 04:09 GMT
#55
On September 15 2012 12:44 hacklebeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2012 11:53 Sentenal wrote:
Every single Protoss on the list there is a legend, and deserves to be there. The 3 Kings, 2 Neo Kings, the best of the Dragons, and Grrrr... Its hard for me to even compare their legacy with someone like Zero, although I suppose you can make a case for Effort.


There is a reason that you had a list of titles for people.... then grrr. As cool as grrr is, no one would be considering him if he wasn't a foreigner. There isn't anyone I felt got left off the list that should be ahead of him, but I don't think that someone should be on the list just because they aren't korean.

I'm also not a fan of chojja or kingdom being on there. I think that the players that don't have multiple titles should either have a whole mess of silvers (yellow, fantasy, and stork) or have ridiculously long careers and very strong proleague showings (gorush, anytime and xellos). I'm kind of on the fence on those last three as well. At least there was no one I felt that should be on the list that got left off.


What's your criteria for 'a whole mess of silvers?' Chojja has 3, 1 less than Stork and Fantasy, to go along with his MSL gold. He was also the #1 Kespa ranked player for a while. Would be a shame if he were the only one to have done so yet not made the hall of fame (except Savior ofc). I say Chojja gets in.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 15 2012 04:12 GMT
#56
I'll admit i didn't know chojja had three, thought it was only two. Guess that means I really only disagree with grrr and kingdom.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
September 15 2012 04:20 GMT
#57
I really think Effort should have been included. Or maybe even Soulkey. And I absolutely disagree with Grr (As he had under a 50% win percentage).
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
September 15 2012 04:29 GMT
#58
win % doesn't mean anything. Reach is under 50%, but no one is saying he should't be on (second most deserving toss imo).
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 04:37:38
September 15 2012 04:35 GMT
#59
On September 15 2012 13:20 tryummm wrote:
I really think Effort should have been included. Or maybe even Soulkey. And I absolutely disagree with Grr (As he had under a 50% win percentage).


Hydra has a better claim to HoF than Effort. Effort screwed his chances by retiring in his prime. Soulkey isn't even close, he never even made the Ro8 in the individual leagues. That being said I agree with Jaedong being the only modern era zerg to be included. That's how dominant he was.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 15 2012 04:42 GMT
#60
I think any modern Zerg not named "Effort" or obviously Jaedong has no claim at all to being on the list. Hydra? Soulkey? Are you kidding me?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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