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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
i saw that today its boxer's birthday and i wanted to watch all the amazing highlights and stuff about him, some fpv aswell, but i when i was looking on nevake's youtube channel almost 1/3 of them are blocked (sadly all the show me the msl fpvods) is this some kind of copyright issue? | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Note: I haven't used nevake since so I'm not sure if that was undone and this is something new. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
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eeniebear
United States197 Posts
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Chef
10810 Posts
V Mokitra replied | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
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moktira
Ireland1543 Posts
Edit: Just to point out, it's mostly MSLs that are private right now, Proleagues and most OSLs are currently okay. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
 I was just in the process of studying Flash's TvZ on FS. Instead of releasing replays, they're going to take down YT vods? :T I hope it gets sorted out somehow, the way the vods were organized is too useful to let it go to waste. At least we always have the superawesome torrents as a backup. | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
On September 05 2012 05:20 moktira wrote: It didn't take long for this to get noticed, we're having copyright issues at the moment so this morning I temporarily made a lot of videos private. Not sure exactly what's going to happen next so I'll update you when I know more. Edit: Just to point out, it's mostly MSLs that are private right now, Proleagues and most OSLs are currently okay. alot of them are blocked aswell. and i dont understand why they block things like hyoungjoon becomes progamer ep 5/6 only | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
please dont remove this channel.. this is the most amazing place to watch some good old Starcraft on the planet.. fucking copyright bullshit.. depriving us of this little gem of a channel.. fuck no.. | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
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NukeTheStars
United States277 Posts
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Jonvvv
Norway1530 Posts
On September 06 2012 01:20 NukeTheStars wrote: Ugh, fond memories being dredged up here. Was it a copyright notice for music or the video content? Video content by MBC Plus Media. | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
On September 06 2012 02:45 aquados wrote: i don't understand why they haven't removed all video's like they have only removed 2 of hyoungjoon becomes progamers, Moktira is setting those videos to private. If he missed any MBC games, tell him. | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
On September 06 2012 03:16 aquados wrote: why on earth does he wanna do such thing? Copyright issues. | ||
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
So for now moktira set all MBC related games to private. | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
could anybody tell me who they are? | ||
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
A few years ago Jon747 hit too many copyright complains(I think three separate ones are enough) and was shut down completely. We lost a large number of videos in that incident. Obviously we want to protect Nevake from a similar fate. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On September 06 2012 03:42 aquados wrote: i don't know who jon747 or moktira are, sorry:D yust a little newgen here could anybody tell me who they are? *ahem* Sometimes there are those among us who are merely known through whispers, nearly-silent utterings of a glorious age now past. In those times, the riches that were sought by ordinary denizens like you and me were provided ever-so generously by the little-thanked heroes of the day. They had gone where few of us would ever dare to venture, into foreign and exotic lands marred by interstellar conflict, simply to painstakingly retrieve what is so universally coveted. Some say that these explorers risk the wrath of the faraway lands where they ventured. Indeed, some of the things they brought us have been lost in the fighting forever. Yet, day in and day out, these brave figures prove time and again why they are the saviors and we are the eternally grateful. For living legends such as Jon747 and moktira, they have gone far beyond their calling. Still today it is rumored that they watch over us, so for generations to come we may look upon the treasures of a rapidly fading age, never to forget what once was such prosperity. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On September 06 2012 03:51 MasterOfChaos wrote: There used to be two big youtube accounts with starcraft videos: Jon747 managed by some crazy Korean, and Nevake managed by varying teamliquid members such as moktira. A few years ago Jon747 hit too many copyright complains(I think three separate ones are enough) and was shut down completely. We lost a large number of videos in that incident. Obviously we want to protect Nevake from a similar fate. That was truly a very very sad day | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On September 05 2012 04:10 eeniebear wrote: I've been watching TSL1 and TSL2 for the past couple months, have not run into any trouble. I think they're probably dealing with MBC material. Sorry to post OT, but did you really watch 2 tournaments for a couple of months?:D | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10155 Posts
Moktira, has CJ E&M attacked you yet? they tagged a few of my videos with ads and shit. I'm not a big enough target yet like nevake cause im only a small individual. MBC Plus Media is a given, they tagged me too. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
Well, the best thing would be talking with MBC about it...getting a solution for all bw fanatics around the world. ps: yes this is naive as it can :p | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
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oBlade
United States5584 Posts
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moktira
Ireland1543 Posts
@FlaShFTW yeah they did tag us but tags don't make much of a difference, it's the copyright infringement that's doing the damage. @greenelve Well this is what I'm sort of planning but it'll take time, if we get one more copyright notice we're gone. @aquados It was MSLs that we received the copyright infringements for so by making all those VODs private for now this will give us time to save everything that's there currently. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
And if it is mbc, why the heck are they doing this now? | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
Somebody mentioned you can't have unlisted videos on an account with copyright strikes against it. Not sure if that's true. | ||
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
On September 06 2012 10:43 Highways wrote: WTF isn't MBC Game dead? MBC game is dead, but MBC Plus Media, the owner of MBC game, is still alive and still has ownership of it's subsidiaries even if those subsidiaries closed. | ||
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ZeroDPX
United States392 Posts
In this case, we'd want to create little loops of progamers prepping in booths or something  This of course requires that you be able to re-encode the videos (hopefully at a higher resolution so we don't lose quality overall) with this "looping frame" around them, and then re-upload. Which would take lots of time in any case. But if you test on a video known to currently be blocked and it works, and if it can be batch-automated, this would be a way to still preserve having all the VODs on YouTube, and it seems unlikely that the automated matching stuff would be made able to catch this any time in the foreseeable future. (The algorithms would have to know how to pick out a particular subframe out of a fully-moving image and match content only against that.) | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Clow
Brazil880 Posts
On September 06 2012 23:54 ShadeR wrote: Ahhh Jon747 twas a sad day despite Baezzi's insanity. Indeed it was. Thank god we have moktira. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
This plausible or am I just off my rocker? haha | ||
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Flip9
Germany151 Posts
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
If that's so... | ||
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aquados
Netherlands180 Posts
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
Thanks for your answers! | ||
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ZeroDPX
United States392 Posts
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moktira
Ireland1543 Posts
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ZeroDPX
United States392 Posts
Is there any way any of the rest of us can help get this plan accomplished? It seems like a lot of work that could maybe be automated somehow. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
youtube just keeps getting better and better. hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow. | ||
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Game
3191 Posts
On September 18 2012 08:21 Bakuryu wrote: btw i like how i cant watch the video at the top of this page because its blocked by GEMA.... youtube just keeps getting better and better. hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow. Proxy. | ||
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kjwcj
Australia1064 Posts
On September 18 2012 08:21 Bakuryu wrote: btw i like how i cant watch the video at the top of this page because its blocked by GEMA.... youtube just keeps getting better and better. hope that copyright problem can be fixed somehow. http://unblocker.yt/ Perhaps this will help. | ||
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AleXoundOS
Georgia457 Posts
And has anybody a local copy of all content, or spread across different locations? There are torrents, but it seems that not all videos are present and it's not active enough. If the safety of videos is ok, then the question is how to make them public. | ||
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GeckoVOD
Germany814 Posts
Most of these services do work to some extent, but for me personally it all turns into a buffer show. You have to wait for 30 minutes to watch a 5 minute clip sometimes. GEMA is seriously retarded /: | ||
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moktira
Ireland1543 Posts
On September 18 2012 08:06 ZeroDPX wrote: Unlisted videos don't get the same sorts of copyright filters applied to them? Is there any way any of the rest of us can help get this plan accomplished? It seems like a lot of work that could maybe be automated somehow. Unlisted videos can still get content id matches so sometimes won't work in Germany or Japan. As far as I know, the way we got copyright was MBC Media directly issuing it, not by matching the videos, otherwise it would have happened for more videos and happened english commentators too, that is just a guess though but if correct then they will not find unlisted VODs. A lot of this is already automated, there's a few of us downloading everything (prioritising VODs that aren't backed up at the moment), once that's done we can begin re-uploading, so it will take time but computer time and not me physically having to click each link or anything. Actually I might pm you later with more about this. On September 18 2012 17:11 AleXoundOS wrote: What is the approximate size of the whole video archive on the channel? And has anybody a local copy of all content, or spread across different locations? There are torrents, but it seems that not all videos are present and it's not active enough. If the safety of videos is ok, then the question is how to make them public. The entire archive is backed up (at TL HQ I believe) but a few of us are doing it again at the moment. I would guess it's about 3TB in total but not sure, I'll get back to you in a few weeks about that if you like. | ||
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Bakuryu
Germany1065 Posts
thx i havent tried this one, but the results are the same with every other proxy i tried. i 95% get the "an error occured, please try again later" or "too many connection from this provider" messages. i tried the unblocker at the video at the top and at a random live hatsune miku video. apart from not working after 15+ refreshes, i still cant search for the blocked vods at all, so ye, im still stuck. | ||
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zergspirit
2 Posts
The quality is not as good as on the Nevake channel, but it's still watchable and at least you don't have to miss out on those matches. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On September 18 2012 23:20 Bakuryu wrote: thx i havent tried this one, but the results are the same with every other proxy i tried. i 95% get the "an error occured, please try again later" or "too many connection from this provider" messages. i tried the unblocker at the video at the top and at a random live hatsune miku video. apart from not working after 15+ refreshes, i still cant search for the blocked vods at all, so ye, im still stuck. proxtube.com | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
yep, proxtube is really good | ||
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Zaxon
Belgium209 Posts
On September 06 2012 04:06 wherebugsgo wrote: *ahem* Sometimes there are those among us who are merely known through whispers, nearly-silent utterings of a glorious age now past. In those times, the riches that were sought by ordinary denizens like you and me were provided ever-so generously by the little-thanked heroes of the day. They had gone where few of us would ever dare to venture, into foreign and exotic lands marred by interstellar conflict, simply to painstakingly retrieve what is so universally coveted. Some say that these explorers risk the wrath of the faraway lands where they ventured. Indeed, some of the things they brought us have been lost in the fighting forever. Yet, day in and day out, these brave figures prove time and again why they are the saviors and we are the eternally grateful. For living legends such as Jon747 and moktira, they have gone far beyond their calling. Still today it is rumored that they watch over us, so for generations to come we may look upon the treasures of a rapidly fading age, never to forget what once was such prosperity. You sir should start an religion | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
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ahwala
Germany382 Posts
On September 18 2012 19:46 moktira wrote: The entire archive is backed up (at TL HQ I believe) but a few of us are doing it again at the moment. I would guess it's about 3TB in total but not sure, I'll get back to you in a few weeks about that if you like. If there'll ever be a way of getting hands on these files, please let me know. My God, I'm sitting here imagining myself watching the complete history of Korean Broodwar-epicness 24/7. :X That would almost compensate for missing most of it when it happened. | ||
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
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GTR
51449 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/user/imbcgame/videos?view=0 | ||
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nicoc77
Argentina57 Posts
On November 09 2012 22:19 GTR wrote: I found MBC's new channel http://www.youtube.com/user/imbcgame/videos?view=0 Nice! Does this have all MBC vods? I'm searching for some of Bnet attack episodes. | ||
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On November 09 2012 22:19 GTR wrote: I found MBC's new channel http://www.youtube.com/user/imbcgame/videos?view=0 so cool!!!! to bad it hasn't been sorted lol does this mean there is gonna be a massive action so we can fix all the llinks in tl vod section?:D | ||
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