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[Interview] OSL Ro4: Flash vs. Fantasy Winner - Page 6

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pylonsalad
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada649 Posts
July 20 2012 23:53 GMT
#101
Jangbi was never even considered the ace of his own team. He won't be considered the best toss of all time.
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 20 2012 23:56 GMT
#102
Fantasy forever. This man embodies all I love about BW.
5 OSL Finals. C'mon Fantasy it isnt the Fall. Crush dat Jangbi like you did on God's Garden in epic fashion. Also #1 Elo Rank, #2 kespa rank. At the end of BW, when history is written, SKT Terran's stand head and shoulders above the rest as the greatest to play the game.

Game I refer to in above:Fantasy Jangbi God's Garden Proleague 2009-10

Dat dropship micro tank v goons. For some reason SC2 dropship micro less exciting, maybe because the projectile speeds are much faster.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
July 21 2012 00:00 GMT
#103
On July 20 2012 03:35 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 23:31 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On July 18 2012 23:50 WaterTower wrote:
I always thought that Fantasy was a less pompous, arrogant player than Flash.

"I will win because I havent lost a single game against toss..."

Pssth. Against six or seven aging, obsolescent Protoss players?

Terran players show the least sportsmanship, while zerg players like Zero are much more elegant in their responses.


ummm

"My opponent played like the computer"

- Jaedong


Well considering the showing from his opponent that might have been a compliment .


I remember that game. A computer probably could have used his scv to defend himself, at least before there was only 2 of them left.
hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
July 21 2012 00:31 GMT
#104
I am a Protoss fan so I would root for JangBi, but it somehow doesn't feel right for him to win the "last OSL." I'd much rather see Fantasy win. I'm a T1 fan a little more than a P fan I guess. Though Khan is my #2.

Fantasy fighting!
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Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 21 2012 01:42 GMT
#105
SHOW NO MERCY!
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2451 Posts
July 21 2012 03:34 GMT
#106
On July 21 2012 08:53 pylonsalad wrote:
Jangbi was never even considered the ace of his own team. He won't be considered the best toss of all time.

There's an argument that because skill is constantly increasing (well, at least before hybrid league, *shudder*), the people who were doing the best at the end are indeed the greatest.

I mean the play that made Savior a bonjwa is just trash by today's standards.
The original Bogus fan.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
July 21 2012 03:44 GMT
#107
On July 21 2012 12:34 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 08:53 pylonsalad wrote:
Jangbi was never even considered the ace of his own team. He won't be considered the best toss of all time.

There's an argument that because skill is constantly increasing (well, at least before hybrid league, *shudder*), the people who were doing the best at the end are indeed the greatest.

I mean the play that made Savior a bonjwa is just trash by today's standards.


Even today's best does not match Flash 2010. Flawed argument.
The Notorious Winkles
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2451 Posts
July 21 2012 03:52 GMT
#108
On July 21 2012 12:44 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 12:34 Turbovolver wrote:
On July 21 2012 08:53 pylonsalad wrote:
Jangbi was never even considered the ace of his own team. He won't be considered the best toss of all time.

There's an argument that because skill is constantly increasing (well, at least before hybrid league, *shudder*), the people who were doing the best at the end are indeed the greatest.

I mean the play that made Savior a bonjwa is just trash by today's standards.


Even today's best does not match Flash 2010. Flawed argument.

I just said there is an argument. And it's clear that any one who would call an old-school player "best of all time" would be wrong BY THIS METRIC. I didn't say that the best player must be the one who wins the final OSL, because the whole argument is based on the assumption that skill is always increasing, which is not a given.
The original Bogus fan.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
July 21 2012 04:11 GMT
#109
I'm a bit torn on the last BW finals.

At one side, I'm a Protoss through and through, even as I have changed to T recently in SC2, I will ALWAYS be a Toss. But for some reason, I just want Fantasy to take this.

About the Jangbi being the best Toss, I... don't think so. Personal opinion, but Stork and Bisu have more accomplishments than Jangbi. I mean even the Gold part, Bisu does have more if you take all of the finals into account, not just OSL and MSL. Stork is the same way. So, no, I can't put Jangbi up on top, but he will be there if he manages this.
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Ermac
Profile Joined June 2011
336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-21 14:15:38
July 21 2012 14:14 GMT
#110
Imho this OSL is just sad - for everyone.

It is sad for us fans because we don't get the quality of games we used to.

It is sad for Fantasy because in retrospect everyone is going say "Well yeah, so he beat Flash 3-0. It was the last OSL and everybody was already practicing hardcore for SC2, so it doesn't really count."

It is sad for Flash because he was beaten under value.

It is sad for JangBi because although he made it the finals, he won't be able to prove anything there.


Yes, I'm grumpy. Honestly though, instead of this slow and painful ordeal*, why couldn't they just let Broodwar die like a warrior? One last epic battle followed by a clean cut to sever head from shoulders.

*+ Show Spoiler +
I'm talking about this whole mixed SC2/BW thing, with neither of the games being played as it should be. Just in case anyone's wondering what I'm referring to.


Despite all this, congratz to Fantasy and the best of luck in the finals.
"Blind aggressiveness would destroy the attack itself, not the defense." - Carl von Clausewitz
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
July 21 2012 16:42 GMT
#111
On July 21 2012 23:14 Ermac wrote:
Imho this OSL is just sad - for everyone.

It is sad for us fans because we don't get the quality of games we used to.

It is sad for Fantasy because in retrospect everyone is going say "Well yeah, so he beat Flash 3-0. It was the last OSL and everybody was already practicing hardcore for SC2, so it doesn't really count."

It is sad for Flash because he was beaten under value.

It is sad for JangBi because although he made it the finals, he won't be able to prove anything there.


Yes, I'm grumpy. Honestly though, instead of this slow and painful ordeal*, why couldn't they just let Broodwar die like a warrior? One last epic battle followed by a clean cut to sever head from shoulders.

*+ Show Spoiler +
I'm talking about this whole mixed SC2/BW thing, with neither of the games being played as it should be. Just in case anyone's wondering what I'm referring to.


Despite all this, congratz to Fantasy and the best of luck in the finals.


umm.....I thought both jangbi vs zero and flash vs fantasy(less so on that one) were really good games....heres hoping jangbi shows the true might of CARRIER GA!
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
July 21 2012 17:17 GMT
#112
On July 19 2012 23:31 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:50 WaterTower wrote:
I always thought that Fantasy was a less pompous, arrogant player than Flash.

"I will win because I havent lost a single game against toss..."

Pssth. Against six or seven aging, obsolescent Protoss players?

Terran players show the least sportsmanship, while zerg players like Zero are much more elegant in their responses.


ummm

"My opponent played like the computer"

- Jaedong


And what's not elegant in that response?
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