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HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
April 22 2012 15:58 GMT
#801
On April 22 2012 07:09 empty.bottle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 07:08 HQuality wrote:
stop hating sc2. thank you.

Flash is playing protoss well it's kinda sad at least we have bisu now


Go back to your sc2 forum, thank you.
PD: bisu sucks.

so much hate inside you
typical for bw threads nowadays
No carpal tunnel no skill
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
April 22 2012 16:18 GMT
#802
On April 23 2012 00:58 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2012 07:09 empty.bottle wrote:
On April 22 2012 07:08 HQuality wrote:
stop hating sc2. thank you.

Flash is playing protoss well it's kinda sad at least we have bisu now


Go back to your sc2 forum, thank you.
PD: bisu sucks.

so much hate inside you
typical for bw threads nowadays


:< if SC2 teams were switching to play another game because SC2 wasn't doing well you would be upset too, and if you weren't then SC2 didn't matter enough to you any ways. BW has become such an important spectator sport to alot of people that seeing it go is just as difficult as asking any sport fan to accept that not only is the sport that they love losing mainstream spotlight, but that it's probably going to not be played professionally period.
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TORTOISE
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
April 22 2012 16:38 GMT
#803
I for one, am excited to see Flash (and the TBLS or whatever theyre called) finally play some SC2. If the great bonjwa's of SC1 cannot transform SC2 into a beautiful and interesting experience through unparalled skill, nothing can.
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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
April 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#804
On April 23 2012 01:38 TORTOISE wrote:
I for one, am excited to see Flash (and the TBLS or whatever theyre called) finally play some SC2. If the great bonjwa's of SC1 cannot transform SC2 into a beautiful and interesting experience through unparalled skill, nothing can.


I think thats asking a bit much of them no? I mean their job is to win games, whether its entertaining or not for viewer is stirctly up to the game/creators.
therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
April 22 2012 17:33 GMT
#805
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Tekken ProGamer
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
April 22 2012 17:53 GMT
#806
On April 23 2012 02:33 therockmanxx wrote:
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Indeed.
Stars Coach Lee wrote:
The bottom line is, if the addition of SC2 fails, both SC1 and SC2 could die. In the times where eSports is losing its fire, we have to do whatever it takes to make it burn brightly again. If the side-by-side, mixed format happens to go well with the fans, I’m fine with this format for the season after that as well.

I hope it'll work.
Wurstbrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany89 Posts
April 22 2012 18:31 GMT
#807
Why is this in the BW section? I removed it and had to find the link on another site. So interesting, BW players switching will give SC2 a new hype, I hope. :D
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
April 22 2012 18:35 GMT
#808
I've always thought, long term (even after the Protoss expac) the entire international eSports community will revert to playing and watching Broodwar again. It is just a superior game, and the SC2 phase will just end up being a phase that expanded the audience for BW.

I realize this isn't the most likely outcome, but I think it is a possible outcome. A lot of us, and most pro gamers, do think BW is a vastly superior game. It would just be a matter of proving it to the rest of the world, and SC2 would be the vessel for that.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
April 22 2012 18:42 GMT
#809
meh
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Wurstbrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany89 Posts
April 22 2012 18:45 GMT
#810
I realize this isn't the most likely outcome, but I think it is a possible outcome. A lot of us, and most pro gamers, do think BW is a vastly superior game.


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BETTER GAME IS! For expample HoN is better than LoL, but all the Kids play and watch LoL!
You can't add to the BW Community anymore, no Casual would start playing a 15 year old game in 2D and 800x600. You can't just sell BW anyore. All the people who still watch BW are elitists and think exactly like you ("bw is so much better *crycrycry*).
BW IS DEAD, pls accept it.
Be happy that there is SC2 and we don't have LoL or Call of Duty as the #1 eSport Game.

User was temp banned for this post.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
April 22 2012 18:50 GMT
#811
On April 23 2012 03:45 Wurstbrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
I realize this isn't the most likely outcome, but I think it is a possible outcome. A lot of us, and most pro gamers, do think BW is a vastly superior game.


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BETTER GAME IS! For expample HoN is better than LoL, but all the Kids play and watch LoL!
You can't add to the BW Community anymore, no Casual would start playing a 15 year old game in 2D and 800x600. You can't just sell BW anyore. All the people who still watch BW are elitists and think exactly like you ("bw is so much better *crycrycry*).
BW IS DEAD, pls accept it.
Be happy that there is SC2 and we don't have LoL or Call of Duty as the #1 eSport Game.

Why did they not change over completely to SC2 then if BW was completely dead?
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Lefiathen
Profile Joined December 2011
70 Posts
April 22 2012 18:55 GMT
#812
BW is only semi-alive in korea, a lot of people watch it there but its difficult to find sponsors.

Starcraft 2 is not ad big in korea as BW but... is like 10000000000000000000 times more bigger in the international scene and trust me when i say that more people watch stacraft 2 than BW all around the wolrd counting korea
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 18:59:33
April 22 2012 18:57 GMT
#813
nvm
dead wurstbrot is dead
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hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
April 22 2012 19:01 GMT
#814
On April 23 2012 03:31 Wurstbrot wrote:
Why is this in the BW section? I removed it and had to find the link on another site. So interesting, BW players switching will give SC2 a new hype, I hope. :D


Not from me. And not from many other fans of BW. Personally, I can just watch Company of Heroes vods instead of SC2.

On April 23 2012 03:45 Wurstbrot wrote:
Be happy that there is SC2 and we don't have LoL or Call of Duty as the #1 eSport Game.


Whats the difference to be happy?
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5649 Posts
April 22 2012 19:06 GMT
#815
On April 23 2012 03:45 Wurstbrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
I realize this isn't the most likely outcome, but I think it is a possible outcome. A lot of us, and most pro gamers, do think BW is a vastly superior game.


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BETTER GAME IS! For expample HoN is better than LoL, but all the Kids play and watch LoL!
You can't add to the BW Community anymore, no Casual would start playing a 15 year old game in 2D and 800x600. You can't just sell BW anyore. All the people who still watch BW are elitists and think exactly like you ("bw is so much better *crycrycry*).
BW IS DEAD, pls accept it.
Be happy that there is SC2 and we don't have LoL or Call of Duty as the #1 eSport Game.


To me there's really no difference whether it's SC2 or LoL.

Blizzard could easily revive BW internationally if they wanted to. They sold an (only) above average RTS in millions simply becuase it's Blizzard and that the game was called StarCraft (2). They could remake BW in high resolution 2D graphics (if people can enjoy Minecraft's graphics or get used to LoL's graphics, then I'm pretty sure they can appreciate good 2D graphics from Blizzard), with slightly updated interface (I think AoX's UI would've been a fair compromise) and BNet on par with WC3's or even better.

They wouldn't even have to add much more content than that because the community would've taken care of that, with new maps, UMS maps, mods, and so on.
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2267 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 19:12:27
April 22 2012 19:10 GMT
#816
Actually i dont want blame Blizzard for fall of the BW, as it not fell DIRECTLY becouse of lawsuit, so even if i find Uglyvision-Lizzard as a money grabing bastards, the lack of help is not the crime per se. It seems to be natural, than its ok.




Jesus, i cant believe I'm saying that.
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
Rainfall7711
Profile Joined December 2011
329 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-22 19:13:59
April 22 2012 19:12 GMT
#817
On April 23 2012 03:50 Ciryandor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 03:45 Wurstbrot wrote:
I realize this isn't the most likely outcome, but I think it is a possible outcome. A lot of us, and most pro gamers, do think BW is a vastly superior game.


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BETTER GAME IS! For expample HoN is better than LoL, but all the Kids play and watch LoL!
You can't add to the BW Community anymore, no Casual would start playing a 15 year old game in 2D and 800x600. You can't just sell BW anyore. All the people who still watch BW are elitists and think exactly like you ("bw is so much better *crycrycry*).
BW IS DEAD, pls accept it.
Be happy that there is SC2 and we don't have LoL or Call of Duty as the #1 eSport Game.

Why did they not change over completely to SC2 then if BW was completely dead?


It's still here because they need to soften the transition to SC2. If they just did an instant switch there would be more of an outcry.BW may have a small chance still but it doesn't look like it.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
April 22 2012 19:13 GMT
#818
On April 23 2012 04:10 hitthat wrote:
Actually i dont want blame Blizzard for fall of the BW, as its not fell DIRECTLY becouse of lawsuit, so even if i find Uglyvision-Lizzard as a money grabing bastards, the lack of help is not the crime per se. It seems to be natural, than its ok.




Jesus, i cant believe I'm saying that.


It's quite sad, though... I feel the folks who were once in charge of Blizzard North would've happily done whatever they could to revive BW (and would never have bothered with that ridiculous lawsuit).
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5649 Posts
April 22 2012 19:14 GMT
#819
I think you underestimate how badly that lawsuit (along with match fixing scandal) hurt BW's image as a legitimate competition. BW solely relied on its image - that's all that mattered to the sponsors. They don't want to be associated with illegal leagues with fake results.

Consider WC3 - it only took a seemingly insignificant map rigging incident (the game was indeed imbalanced and one of the staff members of MBCGame took the initiative to fix it, unfortunately not openly) to kill the scene in Korea.
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
April 22 2012 19:31 GMT
#820
On April 23 2012 03:45 Wurstbrot wrote:
Show nested quote +
I realize this isn't the most likely outcome, but I think it is a possible outcome. A lot of us, and most pro gamers, do think BW is a vastly superior game.


IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BETTER GAME IS! For expample HoN is better than LoL, but all the Kids play and watch LoL!
You can't add to the BW Community anymore, no Casual would start playing a 15 year old game in 2D and 800x600. You can't just sell BW anyore. All the people who still watch BW are elitists and think exactly like you ("bw is so much better *crycrycry*).
BW IS DEAD, pls accept it.
Be happy that there is SC2 and we don't have LoL or Call of Duty as the #1 eSport Game.


There are in fact many people to whom quality does matter. You are of course free to consume dung while shouting 'QUALITY DOESN'T MATTER'. Still, please do not come to this forum to berate those who refuse to do so.
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