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On February 29 2012 14:48 Release wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 14:30 CakeOrI)eath wrote:
No one will ever beat Flash at BW on tv again.
He will go completely undefeated for the next 9 months that Proleague stays alive =( OGN will create a new gameshow called "Who will beat Lee Young Ho?" The show will go on for ten years until Flash is need of a much need shoulder replacement surgery. His shoulder will prevent him from proper playing, and on the final episode, Yellow will come back and win the grandest of titles: the "I Beat Lee Young Ho" Starleague Gold.
this is better than the SNSD post.
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On February 29 2012 11:02 iSometric wrote:
Actually, I think a toss will take him out, with maybe some proxy robo or something. Hard to beat him straight up, even as Zerg or Terran.
I'm picturing a game where the toss proxies a robo and is subsequently bunker rushed at said proxy robo.
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On February 29 2012 14:24 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 14:01 Starburst wrote:On February 28 2012 13:28 beachbeachy wrote:On February 28 2012 11:06 Starburst wrote:
In my opinion, it's not that FlaSh is unstoppable, but more so that EVERYONE (except Fanta ofc) is slumping. And the only other people who could possible beat him are on his team (again except Fanta). So, I'm gonna have to say Fantasy because he's the only person NOT slumping atm. that's definitely an excuse to make flash look worse than he is....lol Lol. That's cute. You mistake me for someone who doesn't realize how good of a player he is. well if that skt1 tag is of any indication. (i kid, i kid) I definitely agree with you regarding your analysis though, but then again there were a few people who put up a good fight who got rolled over anyway (soulkey T_T)
Overall, though, soulkey's doing well. He's prolly the only zerg capable of beating FlaSh until JD decides to man up and take him down (unless hydra or zero suddenly become ZvT masters). All the masters of the other races are no where near as good as they were even early last year imo. Even Best, who was a PvT aficionado remember, can hardly muscle up a win versus Light. Storks only losses are to Flash and fanta, so he might still have a shot at the title "He Who Dethroned God" (not literally, but you know what I mean :p). There's aren't any other Tosses that could do it atm.
TL;DR: Fanta, Stork, and SK are the only people in their respective races that might be able to beat Flash atm.
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On February 29 2012 14:30 CakeOrI)eath wrote:
No one will ever beat Flash at BW on tv again.
He will go completely undefeated for the next 9 months that BW stays alive =(
I think you meant 9 years.
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I forgot about Stork. He could probably do it for the protoss.
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 BByong.
Flash will win a TvT tonight but lose the other one on Friday.
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Too bad the only ONE that can beat Flash is in the same team :/ his name is  Reach aka ManToss! kekeke
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Leta or Fantasy, but I voted for Leta
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hoping for FBH like i hope for FBH in all avenues of life but im realistically going to say Soulkey, only because SK is the only player who has recently approached truly Perfect Play other than Flash (but only in some of his games)
Honestly Flash's level of dominance is so much more than the aura Savior or any of the other Bonjwas had about them (except maybe oov in his debut run of invincibility). With Savior and the others, it was a matter of them always coming out on top in a set. Midas might take a game or two off the Maestro, but he'd still be making the MSL finals over and over and over again. Bisu might steal a game with his shit-hot play, but everyone expected Savior to take games 2-4.
When Flash loses a single game, it's an absolute shock. That is something I have never seen before in a game (SC or otherwise) and honestly do not expect to see again. The closest I can get is Roger Federer when he was on top of the world, and even then everyone knew Rafa Nadal could beat him on clay.
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Stats would have a decent shot if they ever played
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Sooner or later a team will be smart enough to figure out that a well-executed cheese or all-in would a better bet for beating Flash rather than a straight up game, what do they have to lose? Flash even bunker rushed Best just to avoid a straight up game recently and it worked great.
Jangbi and Fantasy are the best bet, Stats too since he has so much info on him.
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Nal_rA will beat him again when he gets back 
voted for Fantasy
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I voted for the dong, but I'd say sea will break his streak.
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On February 29 2012 18:47 bubblegumbo wrote:
Sooner or later a team will be smart enough to figure out that a well-executed cheese or all-in would a better bet for beating Flash rather than a straight up game, what do they have to lose? Flash even bunker rushed Best just to avoid a straight up game recently and it worked great.
Jangbi and Fantasy are the best bet, Stats too since he has so much info on him.
Flash has the best starsense out of any player ever, cheesing out flash is just as hard as beating flash in a straight up game, if not harder. I know a cheese will not take down flash unless he gets caught doing 14cc.
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On February 29 2012 19:10 Reuental wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 18:47 bubblegumbo wrote:
Sooner or later a team will be smart enough to figure out that a well-executed cheese or all-in would a better bet for beating Flash rather than a straight up game, what do they have to lose? Flash even bunker rushed Best just to avoid a straight up game recently and it worked great.
Jangbi and Fantasy are the best bet, Stats too since he has so much info on him. Flash has the best starsense out of any player ever, cheesing out flash is just as hard as beating flash in a straight up game, if not harder. I know a cheese will not take down flash unless he gets caught doing 14cc.
I disagree. The person fighting flash knows that they can't win in a long game. They'd have to finish it before it got to mid-game. In order for that to happen, an enormous cheese (like the 2-fact vulture all-in Fantasy did a while back on match point) would be required. And though Flash has godsense, he might miss one. I mean, dammit, everything Flash has done so far never should have happened; you can't just GUESS everything 100%!!!
So in other words, probability of success in long game: none. Probability of success in massive cheese: low. Low > None.
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*fixes glasses* [in nasally voice] well, in volume #37 issue #12 of justice league, flash was, in fact, beaten by...
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On February 29 2012 19:10 Reuental wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 18:47 bubblegumbo wrote:
Sooner or later a team will be smart enough to figure out that a well-executed cheese or all-in would a better bet for beating Flash rather than a straight up game, what do they have to lose? Flash even bunker rushed Best just to avoid a straight up game recently and it worked great.
Jangbi and Fantasy are the best bet, Stats too since he has so much info on him. Flash has the best starsense out of any player ever, cheesing out flash is just as hard as beating flash in a straight up game, if not harder. I know a cheese will not take down flash unless he gets caught doing 14cc.
Effort and Stork have a very decent record against Flash in mindgames. And both of Stork's wins since the start of the 09/10 season were against Rax CC.
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On February 29 2012 14:19 Befree wrote:
I think it will be in a TvT, probably Leta. He'll go for two starports in some sneaky way, flash will scout it once they're getting closer, but then the wraiths will arrive at the SCV's and taking them out and announcers will be yelling like crazy, then Flash will try to react as fast as possible and get rid of them, and he'll make great use of his few units he has to kill these wraiths, and slowly more and more workers will die, and I'll be feeling all depressed and announcers will be yelling, and things will keep looking worse, and then then I'll hear the most sad chat alert sound ever and see gg, then the announcers will start yelling like crazy more, and ill open up chat on the stream and it'll be like "oOMGOGM FLASH. OMGGMGOMG" and then I'll turn off the stream, and then I'll come back here and quote this post and be like "ya"
That or Leta just makes goliaths while Flash tries to beat Leta down at his own game with mass wraiths like what happened last time...
On February 29 2012 19:58 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 19:10 Reuental wrote:On February 29 2012 18:47 bubblegumbo wrote:
Sooner or later a team will be smart enough to figure out that a well-executed cheese or all-in would a better bet for beating Flash rather than a straight up game, what do they have to lose? Flash even bunker rushed Best just to avoid a straight up game recently and it worked great.
Jangbi and Fantasy are the best bet, Stats too since he has so much info on him. Flash has the best starsense out of any player ever, cheesing out flash is just as hard as beating flash in a straight up game, if not harder. I know a cheese will not take down flash unless he gets caught doing 14cc. Effort and Stork have a very decent record against Flash in mindgames. And both of Stork's wins since the start of the 09/10 season were against Rax CC.
The problem is a lot of people have ok/decent records against Flash...from back then. The issue is Flash is the fastest and most absolute learner we've seen, EVER. When he says stuff like "I was overconfident, I won't make that mistake again", he MEANS it. Since when during the last few years has he really lost to the same stuff twice?
On February 29 2012 15:07 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 11:02 iSometric wrote:
Actually, I think a toss will take him out, with maybe some proxy robo or something. Hard to beat him straight up, even as Zerg or Terran. I'm picturing a game where the toss proxies a robo and is subsequently bunker rushed at said proxy robo.
While simultaneously pushing into the natural with five more bunkers successively placed closer and closer from the center of the map to the natural chokepoint. Just in case.
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I believe that soon the entire korean starcraft scene will form a pact of alliance against KT rolster and a global plan to take down flash in one game, the first person who is able to do it will get .... one BILLION dollars
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EPT
