EPTOn March 01 2012 12:36 X10A wrote:
Damn, I thought for sure it was going to be Hyuk. ><
Damn, I thought for sure it was going to be Hyuk. ><
Yeah ..... Fucking crap
Ireally wanted Hyuk to defeat Flash again.
Who will beat Flash? - Page 30
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
Yeah ..... Fucking crap Ireally wanted Hyuk to defeat Flash again. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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Abort Retry Fail
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ronfler
United States48 Posts
On March 02 2012 00:14 qrs wrote: I wouldn't be bragging about this prediction if I were you—you got it totally wrong. Dear is known as a PvT specialist who has won all of his PvT matches this season except for his first match against Flash, and he won by clever play based on exploiting Flash's tendencies, not by getting a lucky break. Also, Dear is not Shuttle and "i.e." is not "e.g.". I am not sure if I agree. That he has beaten Sea (who has been slumping hard all season) and Light (who is terrible at TvP) hardly demonstrates that he is a PvT specialist. | ||
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Piege
United Kingdom128 Posts
I noticed sudden rise in Jaedong votes in the poll, which was rather strange. :/ + Show Spoiler + Personally I would have liked to see Flash go undefeated until the regular season ended. It could have been astounding accomplishment. | ||
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FiNTer
Finland153 Posts
On March 02 2012 01:25 Abort Retry Fail wrote: Thread has served its purpose I guess... Can be closed now Dunno how it bothers you if they dosnt close this thread | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On March 02 2012 03:34 ronfler wrote: Point taken, but going 5-0, even against mediocre opposition, has something to say as well. For instance, suppose we estimate the odds of the average player beating LighT in a PvT at 80%, (going by his last ten games in that matchup instead of his lifetime stats, which are not as bad), and beating I am not sure if I agree. That he has beaten Sea (who has been slumping hard all season) and Light (who is terrible at TvP) hardly demonstrates that he is a PvT specialist.  Sea in a PvT at 70% ("")—the odds of beating each twice without dropping a game would still be just a shade over 30%. Throw in firebathero, and count him as a 58% chance of victory (going by his lifetime TvP this time; his recent record is actually decent) and the odds of winning all of your matches dip below 20%. You can take his loss against Flash into account, but then in all fairness you should count the second game against Flash as well.I'm not a statistician and I'm not saying that the above is a conclusive statistical argument or anything of the sort, but I do think that there are reasonable grounds for calling Dear a PvT specialist. Also, people have said it before me, fwiw. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
a) got more games played b) beats more non-terrible vP players he's hardly a specialist. Preferred matchup, sure, but he's not like...auto-win vs T just yet, in my eyes. Shuttle was a PvP specialist back when he had 80% PvP winrate. Dear isn't quite there yet :p | ||
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rslee
Canada226 Posts
On March 01 2012 13:04 baubo wrote: Dear didn't beat Flash. Flash just wanted to officially lose a not-so-important game to before the playoffs. You know, give the mortals some hope that they may reach him. But when the games actually matter, Flash will stop messing around and show other players just how puny they really are. Flash wanted to get stopped on his way to tying and potentially beating the record for longest winning streak in proleague and in general simultaneously? Kind of unfair that so many people are robbing dear of his win by saying flash threw the game. Some people are joking and it was funny the first few times but now people are actually seriously suggesting that dear didn't play well when in fact he did. | ||
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
On March 02 2012 07:32 rslee wrote: Flash wanted to get stopped on his way to tying and potentially beating the record for longest winning streak in proleague and in general simultaneously? Kind of unfair that so many people are robbing dear of his win by saying flash threw the game. Some people are joking and it was funny the first few times but now people are actually seriously suggesting that dear didn't play well when in fact he did. Nobody is serious about throwing games. Just because you read a joke over and over again, doesn't mean its more serious. just seems less funny because of how worn out it's gotten to you. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On March 02 2012 09:28 Warpath wrote: Nobody is serious about throwing games. Just because you read a joke over and over again, doesn't mean its more serious. just seems less funny because of how worn out it's gotten to you. Ehh the problem is some people honestly aren't joking. (Not necessarily saying that guy is.) Whatever, Flash didn't play perfect one game, Dear had a great strat and executed it very well. Flash is still the best player in the game. yayyyyyyyyyyyyy bw | ||
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[V]
United States905 Posts
Dear knew where the scans were going and how Flash would react on certain scenarios. He "faked" a fast third, in a sense that he made Flash think that was all that is happening, while setting his speed shuttle reaver drop, which Flash had no idea of. Flash promptly commited to the vulture harass on third, and BOOM, BOOM, BOOM for scvs. What is worth noting is how Flash reacted. He held on until the last tank and the last group of scvs expoded. He could have held it off too. He had 2 tanks coming and still a decent econ, he just needs to hold the high ground with seige tanks and slowly make his way back. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On March 02 2012 10:04 [V] wrote: Flash tendencies cost him the game, and Dear read and outthought Flash all the way. Dear knew where the scans were going and how Flash would react on certain scenarios. He "faked" a fast third, in a sense that he made Flash think that was all that is happening, while setting his speed shuttle reaver drop, which Flash had no idea of. Flash promptly commited to the vulture harass on third, and BOOM, BOOM, BOOM for scvs. What is worth noting is how Flash reacted. He held on until the last tank and the last group of scvs expoded. He could have held it off too. He had 2 tanks coming and still a decent econ, he just needs to hold the high ground with seige tanks and slowly make his way back. Well, even when a deity have trouble recovering the mental fortitude when getting caught with his pants down like that. | ||
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reincremate
China2216 Posts
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On March 02 2012 11:19 reincremate wrote: It's a testament to Flash's level of domination that a thread dedicated to him losing is 30 pages long. I think that despite Jaedong's sub par play as of late, he has the best chance of being the next person to beat Flash given their lifetime head-to-head record and their head-to-head record last year. Fantasy is only 6-13 against Flash (5-13 in standard games). A record is just that, a record. History, and does not directly impact games. Skyhigh was 7-0 against fantasy, but this season, fantasy crush skyhigh. Jaedong is not likely to be the next person to beat flash. It will be: + Show Spoiler + by.hero | ||
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