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2011 in review [Broodwar Edition] - Page 6

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Imalengrat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia365 Posts
January 03 2012 02:53 GMT
#101
Very nice read. Not much of a BW watcher but this is awesome. Thanks
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sviatoslavrichter
Profile Joined January 2012
United States164 Posts
January 03 2012 03:01 GMT
#102
On January 03 2012 09:18 shaftofpleasure wrote:
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On January 03 2012 04:19 bgx wrote:
On January 03 2012 03:24 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 02 2012 20:57 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:59 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 02 2012 19:21 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On January 02 2012 16:38 sviatoslavrichter wrote:
On January 02 2012 07:55 shaftofpleasure wrote:
On January 02 2012 01:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On January 02 2012 01:12 shaftofpleasure wrote:
[quote]

I don't have a specific team. I just want KT to be last. =


but why?
I know this isn't the place to ask but its so intriguing to see a total anti-fan.


I don't like dominating figures like Flash. I mean, he already broke the game. After having to witness his 2010 and 2011 run, It's safe to say that there will never be another player to top Flash and I think the only thing that is going to bring Flash down is going to be his age. And no one likes that.

I want a player who can match Flash NOW or else, BW will be dead when Flash starts to suck and then no one likes BW dead. You have to notice this since every game the commentators compare A-teamers to Flash, Bisu, Stork, and Jaedong. If these guys starts sucking and no one can top the level of play these guys these, then we are not far from being a fan of a dying scene. TBLS are the pillars of the current BW, and there is a current need to smash these pillars while they are strong.

I got hooked on BW when Bisu was the leading man of the scene and I've patently waited for a zerg to topple him. Jaedong came but also his bane, Flash. Then 2010 came. I do not know where to place Stork here ..


Fanboyism aside, you're pretty spot-on in that there is not a lot of new blood entering the BW scene. This is probably the largest long-term threat BW faces. What are the new players that have cycled into the scene since 2008-9? Wooki? Rain? Action? We can probably count them on one hand...


I am looking more to these players: Baby, Hydra, Bogus, Stats, Fantasy.

They really don't have to be new players. With the number of games reduced bin the current PL and the removal of MSL, I don't think we will be seeing more from these players' true potential. What we need are more games to be played. Progamers complained about the games they had to play last season. Now, I think they can even barely play at all and with the absence of MBCH, WMF, and Oz; there is even a less saturation of players to play against other players. Baby, for example, when WMF was still around, he could play against TBLS which would mean we can guage him more and can be a a potential next 'TBLS'.

I don't know if I am making any sense to you guys but the idea is in my head and I just can't convey it right. All I know is that Flash needs to go down. Along with the KT because they 're the defending champion.


Well, if you really want to take down Flash, playing more games won't necessarily be the solution. I think Flash's strength isn't just his in-game decisionmaking, but that he probably uses his practice time more efficiently than any other progamer. Having less games evens out the playing field substantially in that regard.

And your hate for Flash really sounds like GG.Nore, lol



It's not that I only dislike Flash. Bisu would be following him in my list of Players-that-I-want-to-be-beaten but these 2 even out each other. I want a zerg (Hydra, I think) to beat Bisu constantly in an straight-forward game yet I want Bisu to improve his PvT so he can take out Flash.

Think of it as me wanting to have really good games and not really about siding a specific player.

P.S. I dont think it's about practice games and how it matters. It's about how Flash broke the game in a sense that he knows what his opponent would do. It's like chess, he is a couple of moves ahead against his opponents when he plays and that aura about him that sometimes you can see how other players cower and turtle in fear against him.


lol, so it used to be flash's fault for turtling, now it's his fault for being aggressive and making his opponents turtle? Can't you just like the guy for playing damn good Starcraft?


aura... not gameplay, he meant that Flash just being Flash already gives him psychological advantage even before he enters the booth. Players play generally worse vs him( a specially those not as established, the middle-tier mainly), because its hard for them to be open-minded vs such revered player. Its partly true sadly or not, it would be best if Flash was stripped of "invincibility", so most people would just start playing at their capabilities vs him. I dont hate Flash in fact i like him, but i would give much more for players to stop doing fail cheeses vs him, because they dont have courage to play macro vs him. It would create better matches, its kinda anti-climax when match practically ends because Flash sent his scv in right direction.


Exactly my point. Take a look at his game vs Light for example. I do not know if it's earhax but Flash have been starsensing almost every cheese the other players throw at him like it is some sort of normal.


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On January 03 2012 03:34 LML wrote:
sorry for the stupid question, but can any1 tell me which event the very first picture is from again and what the amount of attandees was? I cannot remember hence not find anything about it right now;/


I think it was taken from an interview. BBC I think. I could be wrong.


Um, not sure where you're getting your facts from but players do often go macro games against flash, and still end up getting crushed. Just ask Best in the 2011 Proleague finals.
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F1rstAssau1t
Profile Joined November 2010
1341 Posts
January 03 2012 06:00 GMT
#103
Awesome!!! Long live to BW!!
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gnatinator
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada169 Posts
January 03 2012 11:03 GMT
#104
It was great to read this. As someone who has stepped away from the Starcraft scene because of the blandness of Starcraft 2, this brings back a lot of those excited feelings of the Brood War days.

It's a bittersweet feeling as it's sad to see all of these teams disbanding.
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 03 2012 13:51 GMT
#105
That last picture of Jangbi...

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"Fuck yeah BW!"
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 03 2012 14:00 GMT
#106
long live BW! thanks for the write-up.
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NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
January 03 2012 18:18 GMT
#107
BW for life!
Thanks for the write-up!
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zackda
Profile Joined August 2011
Israel6 Posts
January 22 2012 14:44 GMT
#108
You forgot the ABC-mart MSL, and Flash's win of 6th major individual league. Other than that, great sum-up !!

I wish some company (GOMtv?) will continue the MSL legacy....
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-22 15:20:49
January 22 2012 15:07 GMT
#109
On January 22 2012 23:44 zackda wrote:
You forgot the ABC-mart MSL, and Flash's win of 6th major individual league. Other than that, great sum-up !!

I wish some company (GOMtv?) will continue the MSL legacy....


Edit : Not thinking right , sorry that I am kind of mess up , because of how I handle a topic without even thinking about the subject matter first and yes I skipped over ABC mart Msl , and Flash win's 6th major indivdiual leagues because I don't have the time and it's about to reach the new year .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
January 22 2012 15:11 GMT
#110
On January 23 2012 00:07 Sawamura wrote:
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On January 22 2012 23:44 zackda wrote:
You forgot the ABC-mart MSL, and Flash's win of 6th major individual league. Other than that, great sum-up !!

I wish some company (GOMtv?) will continue the MSL legacy....


You do realise that , Only one person was working on this article.......

I do not think he really meant it to be augmentative... or at least with malicious intentions.
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 22 2012 15:22 GMT
#111
On January 23 2012 00:11 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 00:07 Sawamura wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:44 zackda wrote:
You forgot the ABC-mart MSL, and Flash's win of 6th major individual league. Other than that, great sum-up !!

I wish some company (GOMtv?) will continue the MSL legacy....


You do realise that , Only one person was working on this article.......

I do not think he really meant it to be augmentative... or at least with malicious intentions.


Yeah I edited out my knee jerk response to it .Should have look at it from his perspective .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
zackda
Profile Joined August 2011
Israel6 Posts
January 23 2012 08:59 GMT
#112
Hi, of course, did not meant to criticize, just to say that it was a great article
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