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Gara
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 03:59:14
January 04 2012 03:41 GMT
#1101
On January 04 2012 06:22 Icklorfin wrote:
I am surprised that I did so well this round. I was not expecting Last to go off like that at all, I just picked him because he was 2 points lol
I feel like picking from god tier (flash/bisu/jaedong) is a bit of a bad investment in this new proleague structure. With only 8 teams there are too few opportunities for them to make up for their high cost


haha, a long-time lurker lured out of seclusion by FPL... grats!


On January 02 2012 17:10 xxpack09 wrote:
FPL Dream Team (to my calculations at least)

Main:

22 (P)Stats $7
18 (Z)EffOrt $5
13 (T)PianO $2
18 (T)Last $2
22 (P)Stork $8
9 (P)Dear $1
19 CJ Entus $5

Total: 121

Anti:
4 (T)Mind $5
4 (Z)s2 $4
3 (P)Shuttle $4

or

5 (T)Sea $7
3 pick 2 of (T)Classic/(P)Flying/(Z)great/(Z)hero/(T)Iris/(P)Shuttle
Total: -11

Total: 110

Seems like Piano/Last were the keys to this round, there are some main teams in the upper 11xs with players like BeSt, Jangbi, and sHy but all the top theoretical teams have those 2

Icklorfin's main is frighteningly close to optimal lol


Ugh, it feels super-wrong to me that (P)sHy, (P)BeSt, and (P)JangBi aren't on here but (P)Stork is, since the three of them have better point:cost ratios than Stork, but the best I can do with them is 120 on main team... I guess (P)Dear was just massively undercosted. Very strong performances from Protosses this round... Legend of the Fall much?
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 04 2012 08:03 GMT
#1102
On January 04 2012 12:41 Gara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 06:22 Icklorfin wrote:
I am surprised that I did so well this round. I was not expecting Last to go off like that at all, I just picked him because he was 2 points lol
I feel like picking from god tier (flash/bisu/jaedong) is a bit of a bad investment in this new proleague structure. With only 8 teams there are too few opportunities for them to make up for their high cost


haha, a long-time lurker lured out of seclusion by FPL... grats!


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 17:10 xxpack09 wrote:
FPL Dream Team (to my calculations at least)

Main:

22 (P)Stats $7
18 (Z)EffOrt $5
13 (T)PianO $2
18 (T)Last $2
22 (P)Stork $8
9 (P)Dear $1
19 CJ Entus $5

Total: 121

Anti:
4 (T)Mind $5
4 (Z)s2 $4
3 (P)Shuttle $4

or

5 (T)Sea $7
3 pick 2 of (T)Classic/(P)Flying/(Z)great/(Z)hero/(T)Iris/(P)Shuttle
Total: -11

Total: 110

Seems like Piano/Last were the keys to this round, there are some main teams in the upper 11xs with players like BeSt, Jangbi, and sHy but all the top theoretical teams have those 2

Icklorfin's main is frighteningly close to optimal lol


Ugh, it feels super-wrong to me that (P)sHy, (P)BeSt, and (P)JangBi aren't on here but (P)Stork is, since the three of them have better point:cost ratios than Stork, but the best I can do with them is 120 on main team... I guess (P)Dear was just massively undercosted. Very strong performances from Protosses this round... Legend of the Fall much?


You can make a lot of ~115-120 point teams while only using $28 or so--the only reason Stork is on there is because the high-performing cheap players are SO CHEAP that their costs don't add up to $30
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3617 Posts
January 04 2012 22:03 GMT
#1103
I'm not sure who runs the BW liquibet, but I'm guessing there's overlap with FPL so posting here: results haven't been updated in weeks.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
January 06 2012 21:10 GMT
#1104
Ok. I don't know if I can watch proleague anymore. Its going to be too painful seeing how badly my FPL team would have raped everyone.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 07 2012 00:20 GMT
#1105
On January 04 2012 12:41 Gara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 06:22 Icklorfin wrote:
I am surprised that I did so well this round. I was not expecting Last to go off like that at all, I just picked him because he was 2 points lol
I feel like picking from god tier (flash/bisu/jaedong) is a bit of a bad investment in this new proleague structure. With only 8 teams there are too few opportunities for them to make up for their high cost


haha, a long-time lurker lured out of seclusion by FPL... grats!


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 17:10 xxpack09 wrote:
FPL Dream Team (to my calculations at least)

Main:

22 (P)Stats $7
18 (Z)EffOrt $5
13 (T)PianO $2
18 (T)Last $2
22 (P)Stork $8
9 (P)Dear $1
19 CJ Entus $5

Total: 121

Anti:
4 (T)Mind $5
4 (Z)s2 $4
3 (P)Shuttle $4

or

5 (T)Sea $7
3 pick 2 of (T)Classic/(P)Flying/(Z)great/(Z)hero/(T)Iris/(P)Shuttle
Total: -11

Total: 110

Seems like Piano/Last were the keys to this round, there are some main teams in the upper 11xs with players like BeSt, Jangbi, and sHy but all the top theoretical teams have those 2

Icklorfin's main is frighteningly close to optimal lol


Ugh, it feels super-wrong to me that (P)sHy, (P)BeSt, and (P)JangBi aren't on here but (P)Stork is, since the three of them have better point:cost ratios than Stork, but the best I can do with them is 120 on main team... I guess (P)Dear was just massively undercosted. Very strong performances from Protosses this round... Legend of the Fall much?

i'm pretty sure the map pool has something to do with it because protoss complained so much last season about imbalance in the maps.
☺
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
January 07 2012 00:22 GMT
#1106
On January 07 2012 06:10 miercat wrote:
Ok. I don't know if I can watch proleague anymore. Its going to be too painful seeing how badly my FPL team would have raped everyone.


its just a game man

you don't even win money
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
January 07 2012 00:39 GMT
#1107
On January 07 2012 09:22 jlim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 06:10 miercat wrote:
Ok. I don't know if I can watch proleague anymore. Its going to be too painful seeing how badly my FPL team would have raped everyone.


its just a game man

you don't even win money


Very informative. Thank you.
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
January 07 2012 00:43 GMT
#1108
On January 07 2012 09:39 miercat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 09:22 jlim wrote:
On January 07 2012 06:10 miercat wrote:
Ok. I don't know if I can watch proleague anymore. Its going to be too painful seeing how badly my FPL team would have raped everyone.


its just a game man

you don't even win money


Very informative. Thank you.


well u looked pretty serious, i just wanted to help you out
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 01:41:50
January 07 2012 01:40 GMT
#1109
On January 07 2012 09:43 jlim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2012 09:39 miercat wrote:
On January 07 2012 09:22 jlim wrote:
On January 07 2012 06:10 miercat wrote:
Ok. I don't know if I can watch proleague anymore. Its going to be too painful seeing how badly my FPL team would have raped everyone.


its just a game man

you don't even win money


Very informative. Thank you.


well u looked pretty serious, i just wanted to help you out


In that case, I probably misunderstood. I appreciate your effort at least.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17724 Posts
January 08 2012 01:27 GMT
#1110
Any news on when the update will be out? I want to see great's score skyrocket on my main!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ThE)ShoWTimE
Profile Joined August 2011
Italy213 Posts
January 08 2012 02:15 GMT
#1111
yea lately results have been upped really slowly/late :s
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 08 2012 02:25 GMT
#1112
This is only R1. We are into R2 of proleague, and they are repairing the fpl system.
☺
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 08 2012 02:25 GMT
#1113
On January 08 2012 10:27 Manit0u wrote:
Any news on when the update will be out? I want to see great's score skyrocket on my main!


FPL is over, round 1 ended.

FPL R2 is not happening due to coding issues which will hopefully be fixed by R3.

Your current placement is your final placement.
icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
January 08 2012 12:54 GMT
#1114
I cannot wait for FPL & LB to be updated! I will fall so deep into the abyss! Hooray!!
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
cynical
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada589 Posts
January 12 2012 02:33 GMT
#1115
FPL needs to be updated so badly. I want to know where i stand!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10365 Posts
January 12 2012 03:39 GMT
#1116
What would be considered "good" right about now? I have 50 points so far, and this is my first time playing...
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
January 12 2012 05:04 GMT
#1117
On January 12 2012 11:33 cynical wrote:
FPL needs to be updated so badly. I want to know where i stand!


It is over. This was a rather short season because there were less teams.

I hope next round will be be a bit longer, maybe 2 or 3 rounds of PL. But until then it will be quite a bit because they are still busy fixing the programm code.
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 23:30:16
January 12 2012 23:08 GMT
#1118
On January 12 2012 14:04 Fenrax wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 12 2012 11:33 cynical wrote:
FPL needs to be updated so badly. I want to know where i stand!


It is over. This was a rather short season because there were less teams.


I hope next round will be be a bit longer, maybe 2 or 3 rounds of PL. But until then it will be quite a bit because they are still busy fixing the programm code.


Yea, with only 8 games per team per round, trades become a less desirable option (limited trade options due of the overpowering consideration of games remaining for players, and less potential/time to benefit from trades - the cost becomes more significant as well) in FPL, and consequently the playability of FPL suffers significantly as the round is running. A 2 round (at least) FPL would allow for more flexibility/maneuverability and opportunity to gain from trades.

3 would be interesting: bigger upside and more opportunity for trades, but less opportunity to reset if you choose a bad team - although I'm not sure how big a consideration that should be given that: 1) a greater opportunity and better upside for trades would also benefit poor/average teams to some significant extent as well, and 2) It seems to be pretty easy to choose a good team as long as you make objective picks - choosing at least an average team should be immanently possible.) In that same vein, an even longer (3+ PL rounds) FPL round is also an interesting idea, for the same reasons stated above; There would be a contrast between the factors, but overall it seems reasonable to assume that a longer FPL round, is going to benefit the people who play FPL the best (people who choose a good team initially but make poor trades (or no trades) are less likely to win, and people who incidentally happen to choose initially underperforming or average/poor teams, but make good objective trades during the season, are more likely to win - in other words skilled participants are more likely to win, less skilled participants should be less likely to win, and luck might play a lesser role (again, the luck involved (and its impact) in choosing a team is hard to quantify (given the mitigating factors mentioned earlier) but potentially still a significant one.


Is there somewhere on TL, where the Round 2 PL player statistics will be listed (line up appearances, wins, etc)?
(only round 2, not round 1 and 2 combined)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 12 2012 23:16 GMT
#1119
On January 12 2012 11:33 cynical wrote:
FPL needs to be updated so badly. I want to know where i stand!



Lucky for me I know where I stand.

+ Show Spoiler +
Very close to last place o;


The funny thing is I called it too! D=

MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
January 15 2012 01:27 GMT
#1120
Lol. Great and Kal started winning and I thought I could make top ten but I forgot FPL was only for round 1. T_T
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
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