• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:55
CET 10:55
KST 18:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT10Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Corso Formazione Insegnanti Yoga What Game makes you happy and stress free?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2424 users

Fantasy Proleague 11-12 R1 Signup/Discussion - Page 34

Forum Index > BW General
1125 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 57 Next
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 17:28:13
December 01 2011 17:26 GMT
#661
On December 01 2011 13:20 LighT. wrote:

Anti-team trade:
ggaemo for Shuttle
Argument: ggaemo...is getting unexpected action lately and for your anti-team what you want is a palyer who rarely gets sent out and when they do...gets pummeled..ggaemo has been solid in the games he's played and riding on that nice little hot streak near the end. Shuttle has not seen action this season...has STX lost faith in him and will he continue to see no games??

Argument against: Shuttle may be a Fantasy League monster waiting to happen.


Don't do it man. Shuttle is the #1 toss option on STX. He didn't get a game in the first match because STX got 3-0'd. He's like Free.

Edit: oh, Subversive already got it covered, heh.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
December 01 2011 17:32 GMT
#662
On December 02 2011 02:12 hipaul wrote:
Np. It has been open already, and there is a timer set to close before tusday match as well i believe

Oh no that's because I just opened it after reading your post.

Yes, trades will be open at the end of each week, and will close just before the first match of the following week.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
December 01 2011 22:15 GMT
#663
Should I trade S2 for Soo on my anit-team?
And also, should I trade Jaedong for Jangbi or Hydra, aswell as possibly trading Piano for another ACE player? Piano doesn't effect me that much, but with Jaedong, I don't really know. TT
S2 can't win ZvT's worth much, if I remember without pulling up TLPD.
And Piano, seems a bit like Casy. Monster vs Z but eh vs P also, he was a Woongjin Terran, that has to play a factor in something.
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
December 01 2011 22:23 GMT
#664
The FPL ranking seems to be broken. It's not taking into account trade point deductions when ranking people, so someone with 16 net points (after plus/minus) and 1 trade point is listed as having 15 points total, but grouped together with the 16 point people.

You can see it here with Maekju
[image loading]
HOLY CHECK!
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
December 01 2011 22:29 GMT
#665
On December 02 2011 07:23 Lonyo wrote:
The FPL ranking seems to be broken. It's not taking into account trade point deductions when ranking people, so someone with 16 net points (after plus/minus) and 1 trade point is listed as having 15 points total, but grouped together with the 16 point people.

You can see it here with Maekju
[image loading]


I think ranking is triggered manually, as it's always off during trading periods. Probably because you can undo trades or change them up to the time trading closes again.
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 01 2011 22:52 GMT
#666
On December 02 2011 07:29 VGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 07:23 Lonyo wrote:
The FPL ranking seems to be broken. It's not taking into account trade point deductions when ranking people, so someone with 16 net points (after plus/minus) and 1 trade point is listed as having 15 points total, but grouped together with the 16 point people.

You can see it here with Maekju
[image loading]


I think ranking is triggered manually, as it's always off during trading periods. Probably because you can undo trades or change them up to the time trading closes again.


exactly, when trade closes people get the points deducted
BW is back
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 01 2011 23:01 GMT
#667
On December 02 2011 07:15 X10A wrote:
Should I trade S2 for Soo on my anit-team?
And also, should I trade Jaedong for Jangbi or Hydra, aswell as possibly trading Piano for another ACE player? Piano doesn't effect me that much, but with Jaedong, I don't really know. TT
S2 can't win ZvT's worth much, if I remember without pulling up TLPD.
And Piano, seems a bit like Casy. Monster vs Z but eh vs P also, he was a Woongjin Terran, that has to play a factor in something.


I would not trade soo onto my anti-team. I'm bias though since I have him on my main, he was top 10 last season .
Jaedong still feels like a wildcard, he should still score more than JangBi and with Hydra possibly not being the CJ ace anymore Jaedong feels like a more solid choice. PianO feels quite valuable, not sure who you would trade him for.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
December 01 2011 23:03 GMT
#668
Man, with what they said about ACE players doing random draw, I dunno if I should keep FBH. I mean, I know he'd probably net me points but at the same time I don't know how likely he's going to play. Thoughts?
mark05
Profile Joined March 2009
Canada807 Posts
December 01 2011 23:03 GMT
#669
oh god how did i miss the signups
yes, I'm MarkOhFive
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 01 2011 23:15 GMT
#670
On December 02 2011 08:03 Selth wrote:
Man, with what they said about ACE players doing random draw, I dunno if I should keep FBH. I mean, I know he'd probably net me points but at the same time I don't know how likely he's going to play. Thoughts?

Who would net more points than fbh that you can trade him for?

Tyson won't get a ton of games on Team 8. If he will it isn't sure if he will win that many. He won't get more games played than fbh.

Mind will probably get played a bit more than fbh if so just slightly. I'm pretty sure fbh will have a better w/l though and ACE will give more points than KT (laughs :D)
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
December 01 2011 23:25 GMT
#671
On December 02 2011 08:15 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2011 08:03 Selth wrote:
Man, with what they said about ACE players doing random draw, I dunno if I should keep FBH. I mean, I know he'd probably net me points but at the same time I don't know how likely he's going to play. Thoughts?

Who would net more points than fbh that you can trade him for?

Tyson won't get a ton of games on Team 8. If he will it isn't sure if he will win that many. He won't get more games played than fbh.

Mind will probably get played a bit more than fbh if so just slightly. I'm pretty sure fbh will have a better w/l though and ACE will give more points than KT (laughs :D)

These are valid points. The only people I think are worth trading for are like the low point Samsung players (Grape, Turn, maybe even Shine if I'm desperate) But Samsung only played one game so far so I don't really have an idea who'd be field after Jangbi and Stork consistently (missed Grape's game in Samsung v Woongjin so I dunno if he'd be a good pick up)

I might just hold FBH for one more week. I don't necessarily lose out. I just might not gain anything and fall behind a bit,
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
December 02 2011 22:41 GMT
#672
Can someone list all the factors that are used to calculate the "adjusted trade values" of players? -this would be useful with regards to trade decisions.
SpadeZ
Profile Joined November 2011
United States2 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 03:26:59
December 03 2011 03:24 GMT
#673
HI everyone, first post in teamliquid and first time playing FPL. Meh.. Most "main team" points so far (CJ is looking good).. terrible antipicks ruined me -6 points
asd
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
December 03 2011 15:31 GMT
#674
On December 03 2011 12:24 SpadeZ wrote:
HI everyone, first post in teamliquid and first time playing FPL. Meh.. Most "main team" points so far (CJ is looking good).. terrible antipicks ruined me -6 points

Rank 6 and you say you are ruined
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 15:35:38
December 03 2011 15:33 GMT
#675
.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 15:35:53
December 03 2011 15:35 GMT
#676
On December 03 2011 07:41 miercat wrote:
Can someone list all the factors that are used to calculate the "adjusted trade values" of players? -this would be useful with regards to trade decisions.

Games left in given round (team wise) and points earned so far.
Someone correct me if iam wrong ~

And btw, FPL needs CJ slump asap.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
December 04 2011 03:00 GMT
#677
On December 04 2011 00:35 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:41 miercat wrote:
Can someone list all the factors that are used to calculate the "adjusted trade values" of players? -this would be useful with regards to trade decisions.

Games left in given round (team wise) and points earned so far.
Someone correct me if iam wrong ~

And btw, FPL needs CJ slump asap.

Also the original point value.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
December 04 2011 03:11 GMT
#678
On December 04 2011 00:35 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:41 miercat wrote:
Can someone list all the factors that are used to calculate the "adjusted trade values" of players? -this would be useful with regards to trade decisions.

Games left in given round (team wise) and points earned so far.
Someone correct me if iam wrong ~

And btw, FPL needs CJ slump asap.

FPL needs some more CJ 3-0 bro. Preferably from Hydra Effort and Horang2, because they are the most exciting and it pains everyone to see them lose. Other than that, I have no reason to cheer on CJ.
☺
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
December 04 2011 17:59 GMT
#679
Is tradeing Paralyze for Modesty a good trade I think Modesty is going to play more, as Bisu and Best are ahead of Paralyze on the depth chart for SK1? Thanks.
Try TL Mafia!!!
SpadeZ
Profile Joined November 2011
United States2 Posts
December 04 2011 20:08 GMT
#680
On December 04 2011 00:31 Epoxide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 12:24 SpadeZ wrote:
HI everyone, first post in teamliquid and first time playing FPL. Meh.. Most "main team" points so far (CJ is looking good).. terrible antipicks ruined me -6 points

Rank 6 and you say you are ruined

Anyway. Free should have been slumping and crazy-hydra (i admit it was not such a good anti-team either) should be played less .Bogus needs to get some playtime as well (maybe when stx stops getting 0-3'd XD)
asd
Prev 1 32 33 34 35 36 57 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 164
ProTech7
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2790
Bisu 803
Larva 384
BeSt 188
Stork 162
Pusan 105
ajuk12(nOOB) 79
PianO 61
Backho 60
Mong 58
[ Show more ]
Mini 47
Shinee 43
scan(afreeca) 42
Sacsri 41
JulyZerg 37
910 28
Sea.KH 25
NaDa 23
GoRush 20
ZergMaN 18
Purpose 14
Bale 12
SilentControl 10
Noble 7
Terrorterran 5
Dota 2
XaKoH 631
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K585
kRYSTAL_50
Other Games
summit1g8216
Liquid`RaSZi826
Happy286
Fuzer 147
Mew2King100
Trikslyr23
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL4514
Other Games
gamesdonequick714
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 149
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco17
• iopq 9
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt1126
• HappyZerGling143
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2h 6m
Replay Cast
14h 6m
PiG Sty Festival
23h 6m
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d
KCM Race Survival
1d
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 2h
OSC
1d 2h
Replay Cast
1d 14h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 23h
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Epic.LAN
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.