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ibreakurface
Profile Joined June 2010
United States664 Posts
November 16 2011 06:14 GMT
#61
The Heat put three amazing players on one team and they got to the finals. The three players only played together for ONE SEASON, which means they didn't have much time to figure out what they can and can't do together. Dream Teams work, they just don't go undefeated all the time just pretty damn close.
:) I play zerg. FOX AND KT ROLSTER COASTER FAN! Because I love everyone. Except bisu.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
November 16 2011 06:16 GMT
#62
barcelona does pretty well.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 16 2011 06:42 GMT
#63
Teams are more of a practice environment than anything.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
November 16 2011 06:55 GMT
#64
People are right in that a dream team is different in BW than it is in most team-sports due to matches being composed of a bunch of 1v1s, but this Dream Team's fatal flaw comes from its lack of practice partners rather than huge egos .. With all the maps being new, Team 8's losses will probably be due to map abuses and specially designed sniper strategies.

Once they get a sponsor, establish a real practice environment and figure out the maps well enough, they'll be a fuckin monster
Writerptrk
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
November 16 2011 07:03 GMT
#65
Two more good sports examples would be the 2003-2004 LA Lakers w/ four future hall of famers in the starting lineup and the Galácticos era of Real Madrid.

On November 16 2011 07:24 Crisium wrote:
I thought CJ was the dream team.

Effort + Hydra
Horang2 + Movie
Leta

I don't see how any team's top 5 can compete, not to mention Snow as a solid 6th. Though JD, Killer, Sea, Baby, and Jaehoon is pretty close.


I agree, I think CJ has a much better team than Team 8. Team 8's real appeal comes from if Jaedong can be a beast like he did when he carried Oz all those years, cos then they other players can put them over the top. If he is just a top player but not a one man army then CJ is much more stacked imo. Having people like Horang2 there to snipe is such a luxury and EffOrt is a huge luxury in his own right since if he gets anywhere close to his old level they will have 3 top tier PL players. Plus their race distribution is really nice. Top players for every race.
Double T
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 07:29:37
November 16 2011 07:28 GMT
#66
I have an impression some people didn't really read the whole thing...

It says:
1. Dream teams usually fail, because of this and that.
2. Team 8 seem not to be endangered, because of this and that.
3. Let us see, how will they do!

So to all you out there saying "you're wrong, they can make it!", please, read something more than just a title (which doesn't say that Dream team [Team8] fail, but that dream teamS fail.

Top players for every race.

But how it looks like against ace for every race?
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
November 16 2011 08:05 GMT
#67
Holy shit are you in a writing frenzy, holy guaccamoly.

I do see your point, but I hope you're wrong
In the woods, there lurks..
MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 16 2011 08:09 GMT
#68
Good argument, but this team aint a dream team. Its just a team made up with the best players from few average teams. Now its a championship team, but not a dream team. I'd say its on par with skt and kt on terms of star power.
Zerg can be so abusive sometimes | third member of the "loli is not a crime club" PM konadora to join!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
November 16 2011 14:02 GMT
#69
On November 16 2011 16:28 Double T wrote:
I have an impression some people didn't really read the whole thing...

It says:
1. Dream teams usually fail, because of this and that.
2. Team 8 seem not to be endangered, because of this and that.
3. Let us see, how will they do!

So to all you out there saying "you're wrong, they can make it!", please, read something more than just a title (which doesn't say that Dream team [Team8] fail, but that dream teamS fail.

Show nested quote +
Top players for every race.

But how it looks like against ace for every race?

Thank you , I'm glad my thread can illicit discussion, but it is clear some people didn't read the whole article. 5 star post mate.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 16 2011 14:10 GMT
#70
BisuDagger just mad that Dream Team's gonna wreck SKT day 1
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19398 Posts
November 16 2011 14:25 GMT
#71
On November 16 2011 23:10 amazingxkcd wrote:
BisuDagger just mad that Dream Team's gonna wreck SKT day 1

Do you know how much restraint it takes for me not to go GG.No.Re all over the SKT vs K8 LR thread? Lemme tell you, there will be hell to pay if SKT loses this first match.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
November 16 2011 14:43 GMT
#72
On November 16 2011 23:25 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:10 amazingxkcd wrote:
BisuDagger just mad that Dream Team's gonna wreck SKT day 1

Do you know how much restraint it takes for me not to go GG.No.Re all over the SKT vs K8 LR thread? Lemme tell you, there will be hell to pay if SKT loses this first match.


Well, we will just have to wait and see who wins on match day .

Is PL this Saturday or next Saturday?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
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