Hwaseung OZ & Personal Stories/Quotes by HiyA! (Translations by Clefairyjones, Nalho & supernovamaniac) + Show Spoiler +
Our team was sort of like a military atmosphere, we didn't know the names of our trainees. We only knew the A-teamers and B-teamers.
A long time ago there was a player on our team who fell down the stairs and got injured and we were really worried about him and called 119.Then the ambulance came and recognized our team and asked for signatures instead of helping him.
I was relieved that Jaedong was on our team. He's damn good.It's probably the same with Bisu, and Flash.There's nothing to say about Jaedong except He's not funny.
Ruby is good looking and tall.I'do be gay for RuBy.Everytime i thinks of ruby,i thinks of how the world is unfair.
Jaedong's hands are fucking fast,zergs in general are super fast.
TossGirl is the same in real life as on the screen.TossGirl is pretty but she's short.
We lived in Sorae village while in Hwaseung.A lot of celebrities live there.We once went drinking and met Kim Jae Dong (A Korean comedian).He recognized us and paid for our drinks.
You're not allowed to copy Flash,It only works because he's Flash.
The starcraft scene isn't dying, they'll probably just move over to SC2.
"Our team used to have a trainee and he seemed like he was working really hard. But something funny was he woke up earlier than the rest of the team at SC2. We expected him to be practicing after waking up that early, but he just takes a shower.
On Hwaseung we used to get no vacations.Samsung KHAN gets at least one break a week.They have so many rest days that they would end up practicing on break days.
I wanted to go to Samsung KHAN.
When forGG gets angry he used to go to the toilet.(LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL)
The thing that sucks about living in a dorm is that you can't masturbate.It's really uncomfortable.(ROFLROFLROFLROFL)
I don't know how others deal with it, but they'll probably masturbate somehow.(HAHAHAHA)
I know about the prices at Kangnam massage parlors,but I heard if you go once, you get too accustomed to it.Ah but lets not talk about this stuff. It's dirty to be honest.Bee likes this sort of stuff though,tune into his stream later today.He'll introduce you to the world of gays.I'm talking honestly here, but I think Bee likes guys.I think Bee doesn't care whether it's male or female. As long as it has a hole.
Jaedong,I've lived with him for 5 years,but I know nothing about him.We're unacquainted,don't ask me anything about him.
I don't know Fantasy,i think he's just really nice.
My personality is really good,i never swear.Im a saint.But he swears in every sentence.But when you live with guys especially for 6 years, swearing becomes routine.
Yeah I'll probably play SC2.Since the Starcraft scene will probably shift soon
So I'm preparing early.I've never met a progamer with a bad personality.Sky is probably my closest friend.
Jaedong is a fan of Lee Yeon Hee. There was that online game a few years back where you date her, and Jaedong was playing it and giggling to himself. That was really cute I thought.
Don't talk about Park Sang Hyun (a guy from myStarleague). That guy is trash. If you're going to do something bad you should try not to get caught. He did something that would obviously get caught. I'll tell you guys later. [Someone in chat says "He sold pro replays didn't he"] Wow you know already. I didn't know that rumor got out to the public.
Bucheon has a lot of pretty girls,but there are bad rumours about that area.
I was looking for a one room apartment in Bucheon but it's fucking expensive.
When I look at trainees I think it would be really sad.They're not even treated like people.
I heard Flash gets 300 million won salary, that's probably the highest
Coaches don't like us playing against amateurs,ecause we gain nothing from it.
PerfectMan's personality is a bit odd,fOrGG's personality isn't good. He's weird.Everyone on our team besides me has fucked up personalities.I'm the only good person on our team,thats it.
Why are you asking about my first time.What will you do with that information?How would I have sex in the dorm? That doesn't make sense.Bee likes holes.(HAHAHAHAHA)
The quality of the questions has dropped severely,Why are you asking about when I had sex.(People asking about how TossGirl is in bed(LOL)
Our team doesn't let us get close to fans,you get cut straight away.
I don't care whether Jaedong has a big cock or not. I don't care about guy's cocks.(LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL)
Fantasy and Seo Yeon Ji are dating.I've never seen it but I heard it's true.I don't even know,I just heard it from you guys so it must be true.(STAR GIRL? FanTaSy what a baller)
I haven't saved much money.
How would I know whether Yellow was a massage parlor addict. I'm not his manager.
TvT is fucking boring when it's played between progamers,But if you play with amateurs it's pretty fun.Between pros it always ends up in a split map situation
Yesterday with the 8th KeSPA team.I met with Jaedong, Killer, and the ex-Hwaseung guys.They said they weren't allowed to stream.But they could play against me on my stream and I could broadcast it.But I probably wouldn't want to stream myself getting owned by them.
"I heard Woongjin and SK are the hardest teams,Hwaseung was hard a long time ago, but not recently."It feels like Woongjin is always playing.
I might end up living with Bee,im not joking, but you have to be careful around Bee.
Ah these guys are overestimating Magikarp's brain.I can't understand these things in one go.
I once saw Park Sang Hyung talking to his friend on a chatting program,and he had sent a message to his friend saying "Fuck Bisu is so good".,and he said Magikarp hyung has gone to Hong Kong.
The funny thing about PerfectMan is that he has no boundaries.It's funny if he could stay within the boundaries,but he always manages to go over it.So we have to manage him.
I don't know when I'll be rooming with Bee.It might be in about a month.Now that I think about it .I'll be spending Christmas night with Bee.
I'm aligning my teeth for corrective jaw surgery.I actually got braces in preparation for it.There are three progamers who have had corrective jaw surgery.Corrective Jaw surgery is 18,000 dollars.There are different kinds of corrective jaw surgery.Some of them for protruding chins and other kinds.I want to fix my mouth opening,my mouth is always open so I'm a mouth breather.
Jaedong looks the same on screen as in real life.Killer is 167cm,Backho once went on a TV show with me,he was 165.7cm back then and the show was about a doctor who said doing something could make you grow 2~3cm.So Backho tried really hard with the exercises,and they measured him.he was 165.7cm,so they edited it out.
Anyone who wants to see that picture should do it in their own time.I couldn't bring myself to click it.Oh looking good(Jaedong Picture),he's so good looking.
After you're 22 years old you go to Seoul Cyber University.We don't actually go to school we study online.The reason we go there is because we need to delay our military enlistments,also i went to Seoul cyber university.
I'll probably play SC2.I'll stream for about a month then deal with a few things,then play SC2 morning day night
When I lived in the dorm we weren't allowed to play off-race.Personally I think it's alright to tell you guys this sort of stuff on stream.
To be honest any people who want to be progamers should just give up now.If you practice Starcraft 1 you're just wasting your time.You should start Starcraft 2.Since Starcraft 1 isn't patched anymore it's the same.But Starcraft 2 isn't complete yet.But Starcraft 2 isn't complete yet.
Jaedong wasn't afraid of anyone.The hardest Protosses for him were Bisu and Jangbi.The team that's good for practicing differs for everyone.RuBy is unemployed like me,so i can contact with him whenever.
I got a mouse.I got it from a second hand online store.The person selling the mouse knew me,so he gave me another one.
I don't masturbate.
When would I get the time to watch porn.How would I masturbate in the dorm
I told you guys yesterday but I know of massage parlors, but I didn't go because it was too expensive.
Hwaseung was the best team at soccer.Jaedong is alright at soccer but he's not good.Alone and Killer are really good,im not sure how good anytime is.
I heard Jaedong and Flash are friends.Out of the other teams I'm friends with all the 1989 players.Im not friend with Bisu."Bisu is born in 1989 too but I'm not friends with him.
I don't care about my salary, but I wouldn't reveal someone else's salary.I earned 18000 a year at first,hen I got 100k for 2 year.If I total the money I've earned so far it would be just short of 200k.I did a bit well for a progamer.
I once got an iPad for a group nomination.But I sold it lol.Because I had no use for it.
The amount you get from individual leagues differs depending on the team.Hwaseung didn't take any money.
Jaedong isnt cheap.He earns a lot so he spends a lot to.
I'm going to the military at the end of next year at the earliest.If I go late I'll probably go really late.
If I scream like 1a2a3a[fOu] I'll get kicked out.I'm going to keep streaming.I'm looking around to move out of here.
Bee earned the same amount I learn in one month in two years of progaming.Bee lives a hard life.
As long as they're not Jaedong level,i'm pretty confident against Zerg players.Jaedong's macro, control and decision making is different to others.
Bee loses against my Protoss.Do I need to turn on that replay again?Out of the 11 within our team, Bee was maybe around 10th?
I don't know NesTea very well.
I want to go to Ace, but I told you I'm getting corrective jaw surgery.I'll have a brace around my jaw.Yes I'm getting corrective jaw surgery.I don't really play games around this time.
There's not many people to play against and it's no fun at this time." told you guys, I'm going to live with Bee but we haven't found a place.
Flash and Bisu is the hardest out of Taekbangleessang.
Who did you respect the most as a progamer?hmm.Boxer because I wanted to become a progamer thanks to him.Nada is really good of course, but I think iloveoov had a lot more imposing presence during his time.
Who differs the most from practice games and official matches?hmm. I don't really know, but maybe Stork? He's actually really good.
Who do you feel is insurmountable?hmm.This is definitely Flash.
The match fixers are trash,but i don't really want to say anything bad to those people now that time has passed.They were trash back then, but they've reflected on their actions now.So it doesn't really matter anymore.I knew of the match fixing around half a year before it got out to the public.I actually got an offer to fix a match,if I lose I'd get $5000 the next day."But that guy wasn't involved in the Starcraft scene it was just a normal person.That was during our rest period.I learned of the match fixing through my friend.It was the first time my friend heard of it to,someone approached CJ.But that person told the coach and they went to the police.I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired.Our team kids were good.It wasn't fOrGG,he was good.But the two that I know of, I'm not really sure,whether it's true.But the rumours say they were involved,if this gets public shit will hit the fan.I remember Justin got caught but he escaped a jail term.Money really lets you get away with anything,Justin was actually the head of the match fixing.But his family is rich apparently.I don't really know the details though to be honest.You don't really know who was really involved in the match fixing.Only the culprits themselves would know.Out of the people who were involved in the match fixing scandal.I wasn't friends with any of them.I don't talk with any match fixers.savior was trash when he was a progamer.He is reflected on his actions now so I think it doesn't really matter what he does now.It's not like him streaming affects progamers.
Everyone, Bee only went out to proleague once,don't be mean to him.
Great looks the same as he does in this game, he is good looking.
Coach Han was a kickbox champion.If you get hit,you die.
No Coach Han and iloveoov didn't fight at all.iloveoov had a rumour during his amateur days that he was really bad manner.So they just had a slight altercation.Not really an altercation just a provocation.
You should be careful you could be added to my death note.(Death note is the title of his blacklist notepad file,people he bans from chat)
We went to a workshop. When we go to a workshop we drink a LOT of alcohol.But that day we drank a bit.We had a rivalry going between two zergs out of our trainees.One of them was drunk,the two were really friends,but the drunk one started swearing at them.
Sacsri, Bee,Wooki and I were talking.There was a bit of a gay joke,but Bee then said how much do I pay for one night to Sacsri.
I saw Hyunyoung and Ahn Sun Young at Jo Jung Woong coach's wedding,Hyunyoung was really pretty.I told you guys out of the celebrities I've seen,Goo Hye Sun was the prettiest.I saw Goo Hye Sun from up close.I didn't get to see Hyunyoung up close.I only saw her while we were taking photos with the couple
I don't know about Starcraft 1's future,but peoples have said that Starcraft 1 would die for the entire 10 years.So I don't really know.
When savior was at his peak,i was doing the dishes,So I don't know him.
As I play SC2,I think I'll stream as well.I won't stream SC2,only SC1 because im bad at SC2.I'm not joining a SC2 team.So I'm going to practice SC2 and join KeSPA's side.I'm not a pro,i'm a teamless pro.I have no intention of taking it.No that doesn't mean I didn't go in.I just couldn't get a team.But ever since high school until I am 23 now,i've never gotten to play or do what I wanted to do without being able to do anything.
I don't know whether Jaedong has a girlfriend or not,this is not really my business.
SC2's race balance is disabled right now.The thing that isn't balanced is that.SC1 wasn't balanced at the start either,so sc2 is same.This is incomplete,but as time passes this will work out.
Firebathero was like that in ceremonies in real life,but he's actually quiet.
that's the backshot valkyrie shot but you have to click on the nearby area not the actual unit you need to practice that you'll get it down in 5 minutes the reason why you do this is to avoid scourges but on fs there's no time to get out those valks or use them efficiently for that matter that's your decision if valk fails mean bio but its better to go mech after you fail bio there's a different version you can start off bio and go right into late mech or get the center with bio and then move into mech but getting center is better or more standard
sk? is that 2 starport? don't do that
its bad you can win only if you're much better these days you have to go 5 barracks because zergs are used to 4 barracks the difference between broadcastted match and regular practice is that on TV if you go enbay first then 5 barracks mutalisks never come to your base the zerg needs to do something with the bio force zergs try to eat up the force in the middle so that's why terran adapted and don't build too much turrets nowadays they tech fast because terran knows that zerg won't come and in fact, since its televised match
ah 4 fact i didn't think too well i didn't know that the son of bitch would squeeze out units while defending
'bitch'
ongamenet commentator...
i can't do that cause i have braces (teeth T_T) im not going into a team (WHAT?) commentators get a LOT of money they get like 200k?
good commentators get 200k
per year
but its different match by match
i know a commentator, not stating his name
he does 2 proleague per week he gets about $5000 per month
money earned cause you win a match
that's inceptive
it ranges from 100 to 1000 dollars
difference of teams
'how much did you get?' SECRET~~~~~~~~
ace?
you only earn $40 per month
you don't ask ace about money at all
you shouldn't talk about money with ace
ruby?
not sure
need to see him
i should see him tomorrow backho? military
he tried to return to team
after doing well in ace
but he can't return now
going to ace is good?
is it comfortable?
dunno i haven't been there yet
my inceptive was
2000 dollars per 25 wins
$200 per win
but you have to win
and your team has to win
i had 27 wins?
29 wins?
couldn't reach .5 ratio
after 2nd round
i was 2-12
but i brought it up to 27-29
back then
jangbi and i basically gave out wins
(aka king of loss)
HiyA said on his Afreeca stream that he thinks he might switch to Starcraft 2 soon. Key word being "might".
Also on his Twitter, HiyA: SC2 was a hard game... TT
On November 06 2011 02:02 Sawamura wrote: Does these mean hiya won't be coming back as a progamer ?
i think it just means he wont be going back to Oz
Well, Oz doesn't exist anymore. I didn't completely understand how the new team was chosen, but Sea and Baby were basically chosen over Hiya I guess.
The top 2 players of each race in the KeSPA rankings on the disbanded team were selected to be put on the team. Idk how the other players were selected.
An Oz T player going to KT MagicNs after he underperformed for a season? Unconceivable! It's better than not getting signed for HiyA tho, love his crazy plays
Great stream yo, it's not often that I can see a progamer streaming, nevermind one that I like
Hiya should sign with SKT1 :D that would be funny, but hard to imagine. Hope he doesn't sign with KT, KT is strong enough and have good Ts already (including the best T) or with Khan, this would be great.
If Hiya doesn't get a team I'll be shocked. He's not the best by any means, but he's certainly one of the better players formerly on OZ, and he's always a WL beast.
On November 06 2011 05:31 Archers_bane wrote: Is the music playing in the background music hiya is listening to while playing? Or is it from the restream?
Omg watching a BW pro from FPview is just so sick. I like to watch amateur Iccup A- and so on caliber VODs and then just don't compare to how crisp the pros are.
Hiya to KHAN, his playstyle is very similar to Reality's and Hiya's aggression will also help to stabilize the Storm that will take its TurN so that it will not choose strategically the timing to go rampant. I hope that KHAN can solely rely on their Protoss/Terran to march itself into PL final vs Dream Team!
But.....consider the past history of Samsung, he is probably going to end up on a team that actually cares about their result in Brood War.....like the KTs!
BW pros are the best RTS players in the world. Watching that stream is simply amazing. The amount of training he's gone through and his amazing decision making is pushing the limits of what is possible in the game. A+++ stream
I guess KT wanted to get a few more Ts so as to spare flash from getting overly tired out from TvT macrofests and also to preserve his healed wrist condition
Someone should tell him about team liquid and how to set up his stream to pop up on the side bar. He could get a bit of money for his streaming troubles I think.
On November 06 2011 17:27 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Someone should tell him about team liquid and how to set up his stream to pop up on the side bar. He could get a bit of money for his streaming troubles I think.
On November 06 2011 17:27 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Someone should tell him about team liquid and how to set up his stream to pop up on the side bar. He could get a bit of money for his streaming troubles I think.
he'd be making more on afreeca
Pardon my ignorance but he cant link to his stream in the side bar ala everyone else? Is Afreeca like Twitch or LiveStream?
On November 06 2011 17:27 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Someone should tell him about team liquid and how to set up his stream to pop up on the side bar. He could get a bit of money for his streaming troubles I think.
he'd be making more on afreeca
Pardon my ignorance but he cant link to his stream in the side bar ala everyone else? Is Afreeca like Twitch or LiveStream?
afreeca is a korean stream service that is very tedious for foreigners to use,tedious as in you have to have a really good proxy or be in korea.
On November 06 2011 17:27 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Someone should tell him about team liquid and how to set up his stream to pop up on the side bar. He could get a bit of money for his streaming troubles I think.
he'd be making more on afreeca
plus if he actually signs with a proteam he won't be allowed to stream anyway
On November 06 2011 21:02 PoP wrote: Anyone know who's [Neox]..? Hiya had a couple TvPs with him and he seems really really good, prolly a pro or at least practice partner I guess.
On November 06 2011 23:30 GTR wrote: are there vods of him playing sc2? (don't bash me)
Because bashing a moderator sounds like a good idea.
That was really cute. It's feels like if Sauron comes into the Shire and asks a couple of small hobbit children some question in a dark, scary and intimidating voice, and then somehow feels the need to add ''Don't bash me'' as though there's any chance in hell they could beat him up. XD
On November 06 2011 21:02 PoP wrote: Anyone know who's [Neox]..? Hiya had a couple TvPs with him and he seems really really good, prolly a pro or at least practice partner I guess.
[Neox] is just the clan tag; if the id was [neox] it self it might be the clan master.
It has players like Scan (huh), Savior, Luxury, 1a2a3a etc.
On November 07 2011 03:21 nalho wrote: Hiya is streaming again, you can watch on http://www.justin.tv/museun#/w/2026414976 Right now his mic isn't working, and he's trying to get it sorted out.
Thanks for the heads-up, gonna tune in right away. He's also talking on stream, some korean stuff ^^
On November 06 2011 21:02 PoP wrote: Anyone know who's [Neox]..? Hiya had a couple TvPs with him and he seems really really good, prolly a pro or at least practice partner I guess.
[Neox] is just the clan tag; if the id was [neox] it self it might be the clan master.
It has players like Scan (huh), Savior, Luxury, 1a2a3a etc.
Yeah Neox is the clan tag. The ID's actually "..", guess you thought it was punctuation
Lol he defended that zealot cheese so well, he didn't even need a good simcity, just excellent marine/scv control to win that game, it's so fun to watch a pro gamer play games in fpvod, and you can learn so much from it!
Clefairy is in the stream chat translating what Hiya's saying (<3), and he told a pretty funny story. "A long time ago there was a player on our team who fell down the stairs and got injured and we were really worried about him and called 911. Then the ambulance came and recognized our team and asked for signatures instead of helping him". XD
On November 07 2011 04:27 Holgerius wrote: Clefairy is in the stream chat translating what Hiya's saying (<3), and he told a pretty funny story. "A long time ago there was a player on our team who fell down the stairs and got injured and we were really worried about him and called 911. Then the ambulance came and recognized our team and asked for signatures instead of helping him". XD
wasn't that forgg? I remember a news article from like 2008 where he fell down the stairs and hurt his hand and couldnt play in the all-stars match that year.
"Our team was sort of like a military atmosphere, we didn't know the names of our trainees. We only knew the A-teamers and B-teamers."
"On Hwaseung we used to get no vacations.Samsung KHAN gets at least one break a week.They have so many rest days that they would end up practicing on break days."
"Jaedong,I've lived with him for 5 years,but I know nothing about him.We're unacquainted,don't ask me anything about him."
"When I look at trainees I think it would be really sad.They're not even treated like people."
HiyA was drunk after hanging out with Jaedong and the KeSPA team so he was a little chattier than he probably should be lol. Some of the translations are probably wrong as well because he talks really fast and he's kind of hard to understand. And about Fantasy and Star Girl, I couldn't tell from the tone but I think he was being sarcastic in response to viewer questions.
"I think Bee doesn't care whether it's male or female. As long as it has a hole"
"Jaedong is a fan of Lee Yeon Hee. There was that online game a few years back where you date her, and Jaedong was playing it and giggling to himself. That was really cute I thought"
"Don't talk about Park Sang Hyun (MBC caster?). That guy is trash. If you're going to do something bad you should try not to get caught. He did something that would obviously get caught. I'll tell you guys later. [Someone in chat says "He sold pro replays didn't he"] Wow you know already. I didn't know that rumor got out to the public."
On November 07 2011 08:41 NationInArms wrote: Fantasy is dating Seo Yeon Ji?
What Hiya really said was that he saw comments on fomos that indicated Fantasy dating Seo Yeon Ji (and I guess people agreeing), so that's what he thinks/believes(?) (and what everyone says). Someone wrote "Hiya is spreading rumors about Fantasy and Seo Yeon Ji" and Hiya responded, "No, fomos is spreading the rumors, not me"
So no, I don't think it was a confirmation of any sort. Fantasy would be baller if he is dating her though
On November 07 2011 06:28 Clefairy wrote: "Don't talk about Park Sang Hyun (MBC caster?). That guy is trash. If you're going to do something bad you should try not to get caught. He did something that would obviously get caught. I'll tell you guys later. [Someone in chat says "He sold pro replays didn't he"] Wow you know already. I didn't know that rumor got out to the public."
Not the caster, just some guy who was in myStarleague.
On November 07 2011 11:17 Xiphos wrote: PLEASE COME TO KHAN, HIYA!!!! And REPLACE THE HOLE THAT FBH LEFT! Hiya sounds like a REALLY cool dude to chill with!
On November 07 2011 11:17 Xiphos wrote: PLEASE COME TO KHAN, HIYA!!!! And REPLACE THE HOLE THAT FBH LEFT! Hiya sounds like a REALLY cool dude to chill with!
On November 07 2011 12:53 L3gendary wrote: Those quotes are hilarious lol.
Did he play any tvz's at all? I wanna check out the vods of the stuff i missed but it seems like he was just playing vs P the whole time.
I think all I've seen is TvP and TvT, but I haven't been watching all the time. He did show us a replay of him beating JD though. XD He was probably really proud of that one.
Actually, I remember a TvZ where he crushed his opponent, so he played at least one.
The starcraft scene isn't dying, they'll probably just move over to SC2.. Yeah I'll probably play SC2.Since the Starcraft scene will probably shift soon
On November 07 2011 14:22 BLinD-RawR wrote: I want to say that if he stopped streaming then its probably good news.
It could mean that he got into a team.
huh? Did he stop streaming? Where did you hear that? :o
But if he would stop, then i agree. But yesterday he sounded like he doesn't have any team yet, since he talked about his future being a Afreeca BJ and playing SC2. Hope not though.
The starcraft scene isn't dying, they'll probably just move over to SC2.. Yeah I'll probably play SC2.Since the Starcraft scene will probably shift soon
yeah thanks for the translations! really cool stuff because in every interview ever all you get to here is *i hope im doing well, my opponent is very strong, our team works hard to play good*, all this generic stuff. This is just so much more interesting because HiyA doesn't have a PR manager any more :D
I doubt there's a good perspective in BW for him honestly... three teams disbanded and he wasn't so lucky to get picked up by another team :/ I always liked him and got angry when he disappointed us again and again only to wreck a super duper protoss like its the easiest thing in the world from time to time.
So if he switches, he'll have to work hard but i think he will totally wreck anyone in a few months. And there is much money in SC2 and even more i the future i think.
Also HiyA: Your stream made my heart ache because i couldn't watch much BW in the last weeks and this was just another reminder
Hiya is freaking hilarious but i think he would be a little obnoxious to hang around with... still, his personality here is pretty much the same as you see it on screen.
Lol, the quality of the questions were seriously declining at the very end! If he wants to live in Buncheon and switch to starcraft 2, he should ask Tasteless (he was living there, right?).
On November 08 2011 02:34 S2Glow wrote: sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry hahaha
random spam ?
Whenever someone asks for re, he says "sry sry sry" to him in chat and out loud says "SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY" and spams sry sry sry in his afreeca chat
On November 08 2011 02:34 S2Glow wrote: sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry sry hahaha
random spam ?
Whenever someone asks for re, he says "sry sry sry" to him in chat and out loud says "SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY SORRY" and spams sry sry sry in his afreeca chat
Don't you see? It's all part of his masterplan to actually join Super Junior. He's auditioning.
I can get into the stream, I watch the whole ad (even memorized all of what the spanish guy is speaking....) and then I can watch the stream perfectly for exacts 1 minute. After 1 minute the stream freezes and won't go back no matter what...
On November 08 2011 04:20 fabiano wrote: Justin TV is fucking with me so bad.
I can get into the stream, I watch the whole ad (even memorized all of what the spanish guy is speaking....) and then I can watch the stream perfectly for exacts 1 minute. After 1 minute the stream freezes and won't go back no matter what...
Switched browsers, restarted browsers, nothing.
This only happens to this stream =´[
It's the same for me. Justin or twitch or whoever is hosting this now just keeps on dropping the ball. Time and time again.
Man, what a game that was... I cant believe how he lost most of his army in the mid push, comes right back with 3 tanks and a bunch of vultures to take out 1 exp full of probes and then pick off another batch of probes with vulture, putting him in such a good position.
Off the games i've watched so far in TvP even when he's behind his vulture play brings him right back by killing probes, mine fields that make a few tanks 5x harder to deal with.
On November 08 2011 04:45 heyoka wrote: This is awesome I wish I had been watching him stream in the past few days
I don't know, but spotlighting it might be a cool idea ? I mean, this is the best bw player that has ever streamed, and it probably won't last long. Dunno what tl policy is though.
What's going on, after like 30s I get a "Check out the CanadaCup live HERE" and the stream never resumes even when I cross away the ad. Adblock is disabled
On November 08 2011 05:01 Holgerius wrote: That second game vs Pusan blew my mind. So much awesomeness.
Yeah, that was really great, from those vultures putting mine on the retreating path of the goons till the very end. So effing cool. Pretty cool comeback against that zerg too^^
I'm aligning my teeth for corrective jaw surgery.I actually got braces in preparation for it.There are three progamers who have had corrective jaw surgery.Corrective Jaw surgery is 18,000 dollars.There are different kinds of corrective jaw surgery.Some of them for protruding chins and other kinds.I want to fix my mouth opening,my mouth is always open so I'm a mouth breather.
On November 08 2011 05:10 StorrZerg wrote: Try watching one of the restreams? there are a few
I tried both of them, neither worked for more then 1 minute.
Same here. Does anyone know what's up with that?
Same also. Maybe its JustinTV's european routing problems again? They were notorious for havign connection issues to europe some time ago, but i thought it was solved
On November 08 2011 05:10 StorrZerg wrote: Try watching one of the restreams? there are a few
I tried both of them, neither worked for more then 1 minute.
Same here. Does anyone know what's up with that?
Same also. Maybe its JustinTV's european routing problems again? They were notorious for havign connection issues to europe some time ago, but i thought it was solved
Unless I misunderstood the chat, the streamer changed some setting so you can watch on twitch rather than justin http://www.twitch.tv/museun As far as I remember twitch has no regional limits (but may still have regional lag and such). Dunno if people already tried the twitch link, but if you are just refreshing on justin.tv try if going to the twitch version fixes it.
On November 08 2011 05:10 StorrZerg wrote: Try watching one of the restreams? there are a few
I tried both of them, neither worked for more then 1 minute.
Same here. Does anyone know what's up with that?
Same also. Maybe its JustinTV's european routing problems again? They were notorious for havign connection issues to europe some time ago, but i thought it was solved
this has something to do with flash, ads and stuff D: Have the same probs.
On November 08 2011 05:10 StorrZerg wrote: Try watching one of the restreams? there are a few
I tried both of them, neither worked for more then 1 minute.
Same here. Does anyone know what's up with that?
Same also. Maybe its JustinTV's european routing problems again? They were notorious for havign connection issues to europe some time ago, but i thought it was solved
Unless I misunderstood the chat, the streamer changed some setting so you can watch on twitch rather than justin http://www.twitch.tv/museun As far as I remember twitch has no regional limits (but may still have regional lag and such). Dunno if people already tried the twitch link, but if you are just refreshing on justin.tv try if going to the twitch version fixes it.
twitch.tv is giving me the limit error too. (Brazil)
I am watching Sheth's stream on twitch.tv, at 1000 viewers right now. I wanna watch Hiya i.i
On November 08 2011 05:10 StorrZerg wrote: Try watching one of the restreams? there are a few
I tried both of them, neither worked for more then 1 minute.
Same here. Does anyone know what's up with that?
Same also. Maybe its JustinTV's european routing problems again? They were notorious for havign connection issues to europe some time ago, but i thought it was solved
Unless I misunderstood the chat, the streamer changed some setting so you can watch on twitch rather than justin http://www.twitch.tv/museun As far as I remember twitch has no regional limits (but may still have regional lag and such). Dunno if people already tried the twitch link, but if you are just refreshing on justin.tv try if going to the twitch version fixes it.
Problems are just appearing in certain regions of the world,therefore not everyone has that problem,I would like Museun to change to twitch.tv rather than justin.tv since we need to get a pro-account to watch more than 1 min of stream when using justin.tv
and stream chat said 9 PM KST tomorrow he'll try to be streaming again. people can try to get him that way. We should also only communicate to him in korean too, not english
On November 08 2011 06:38 N.geNuity wrote: this is his twitter account (I think; I can't read korean. linked to in stream chat) https://twitter.com/#!/sh890721
and stream chat said 9 PM KST tomorrow he'll try to be streaming again. people can try to get him that way. We should also only communicate to him in korean too, not english
Yea, he didn't respond to anyone in english; I'm not sure if he knows any.
On November 08 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote: Ya, as Bakuryu said; he won the battle, but we will win the war. We'll get in contact with him for realz tomorrow.
We should get something organized for this.
I think everyone need to send korean message about teamliquid to HiyA's twitter.
edit: It seems people are having problems with twitch.tv. I can set up a lower quality stream on ustream as a 'mirror' that will run at the same time, if it will fix the problem. It won't have vods, but those will be saved on twitch/justin.tv.
Huge thanks to yosul for streaming and the translators (SNM and clefairy) for making the stream viewable.
Also its always just so impressive to watch a pro BW player. Just the little things like how fast they can go through their base and build units/add supply depots/go upgrades makes me appreciate just how much practice it takes to get that good.
You're not allowed to copy Flash,It only works because he's Flash.
LOL!
I know about the prices at Kangnam massage parlors,but I heard if you go once, you get too accustomed to it.Ah but lets not talk about this stuff. It's dirty to be honest.Bee likes this sort of stuff though,tune into his stream later today.He'll introduce you to the world of gays.I'm talking honestly here, but I think Bee likes guys.I think Bee doesn't care whether it's male or female. As long as it has a hole.
Mod clefairyjones and Mod supernovamaniac on Museun's stream translated some of Hiya's dialogues: + Show Spoiler +
that's the backshot valkyrie shot but you have to click on the nearby area not the actual unit you need to practice that you'll get it down in 5 minutes the reason why you do this is to avoid scourges but on fs there's no time to get out those valks or use them efficiently for that matter that's your decision if valk fails mean bio but its better to go mech after you fail bio there's a different version you can start off bio and go right into late mech or get the center with bio and then move into mech but getting center is better or more standard
sk? is that 2 starport? don't do that
its bad you can win only if you're much better these days you have to go 5 barracks because zergs are used to 4 barracks the difference between broadcastted match and regular practice is that on TV if you go enbay first then 5 barracks mutalisks never come to your base the zerg needs to do something with the bio force zergs try to eat up the force in the middle so that's why terran adapted and don't build too much turrets nowadays they tech fast because terran knows that zerg won't come and in fact, since its televised match
ah 4 fact i didn't think too well i didn't know that the son of bitch would squeeze out units while defending
'bitch'
ongamenet commentator...
i can't do that cause i have braces (teeth T_T) im not going into a team (WHAT?) commentators get a LOT of money they get like 200k?
good commentators get 200k
per year
but its different match by match
i know a commentator, not stating his name
he does 2 proleague per week he gets about $5000 per month
On November 08 2011 06:44 soujiro_ wrote: another great streaming marathon from hiya, hoping someone uploads the fpvods to youtube
I think today's highlights were the bio TvP and the huge hold against that good zerg that he eventually gets back too until the guy DC's (well now that I think of if Im not sure this was the DC, maybe he ended up finishing that game...my memory isnt perfect right now, too many hours watching the stream :p).
Thanks to the streamers and the translators. It was a very pleasent afternoon!
On November 08 2011 07:04 BroodWarHD wrote: Mod clefairyjones and Mod supernovamaniac on Museun's stream translated some of Hiya's dialogues: + Show Spoiler +
that's the backshot valkyrie shot but you have to click on the nearby area not the actual unit you need to practice that you'll get it down in 5 minutes the reason why you do this is to avoid scourges but on fs there's no time to get out those valks or use them efficiently for that matter that's your decision if valk fails mean bio but its better to go mech after you fail bio there's a different version you can start off bio and go right into late mech or get the center with bio and then move into mech but getting center is better or more standard
sk? is that 2 starport? don't do that
its bad you can win only if you're much better these days you have to go 5 barracks because zergs are used to 4 barracks the difference between broadcastted match and regular practice is that on TV if you go enbay first then 5 barracks mutalisks never come to your base the zerg needs to do something with the bio force zergs try to eat up the force in the middle so that's why terran adapted and don't build too much turrets nowadays they tech fast because terran knows that zerg won't come and in fact, since its televised match
ah 4 fact i didn't think too well i didn't know that the son of bitch would squeeze out units while defending
'bitch'
ongamenet commentator...
i can't do that cause i have braces (teeth T_T) im not going into a team (WHAT?) commentators get a LOT of money they get like 200k?
good commentators get 200k
per year
but its different match by match
i know a commentator, not stating his name
he does 2 proleague per week he gets about $5000 per month
edit: It seems people are having problems with twitch.tv. I can set up a lower quality stream on ustream as a 'mirror' that will run at the same time, if it will fix the problem. It won't have vods, but those will be saved on twitch/justin.tv.
Did you have your channel set to gaming? From what i read in this thread it seems like the region limits were on, which means u might have still been set to whatever you set it when you restream Afreeca qt's. This change probably fucked up the routing as well
edit: It seems people are having problems with twitch.tv. I can set up a lower quality stream on ustream as a 'mirror' that will run at the same time, if it will fix the problem. It won't have vods, but those will be saved on twitch/justin.tv.
Did you have your channel set to gaming? From what i read in this thread it seems like the region limits were on, which means u might have still been set to whatever you set it when you restream Afreeca qt's. This change probably fucked up the routing as well
Halfway through I set it to gaming. From now on it'll be on Twitch-- I just made a second channel for my other streams.
Does anyone remember that game that Hiya played against some toss where he suddenly builds 6 raxes in response to seeing carriers already out? He goes straight up bio and ends up taking the game.
On November 08 2011 08:17 telamascope wrote: Does anyone remember that game that Hiya played against some toss where he suddenly builds 6 raxes in response to seeing carriers already out? He goes straight up bio and ends up taking the game.
On November 08 2011 08:17 telamascope wrote: Does anyone remember that game that Hiya played against some toss where he suddenly builds 6 raxes in response to seeing carriers already out? He goes straight up bio and ends up taking the game.
On November 08 2011 08:17 telamascope wrote: Does anyone remember that game that Hiya played against some toss where he suddenly builds 6 raxes in response to seeing carriers already out? He goes straight up bio and ends up taking the game.
Love how the commentator's all like "why is HiyA being so dumb with building marines? He's not doing anything." And then "Well, I guess if he kills all of the interceptors, violet won't be able to produce more."
Hilarious translations!!!! Really do hope Khan gets the funds to pick him up. If not, huge loss to BW... Huge gain for sc2. Sad to see players not being picked up when they so clearly deserve it.. And the team wants them.. C'MON CORPS! SPONSOR BW!!!
He's so fast, makes sc2 streamers look sluggish. Perfect mouse control and precision, virtually no spam except for lots of right clicking but tbh, everyone does that.
On November 08 2011 06:41 Holgerius wrote: Ya, as Bakuryu said; he won the battle, but we will win the war. We'll get in contact with him for realz tomorrow.
We should get something organized for this.
I think everyone need to send korean message about teamliquid to HiyA's twitter.
It's crazy that we can watch BW progamer's first person view now. I used to savor the 5 seconds of FPV they'd show during proleague, I feel like a spoiled little girl now.
On November 08 2011 09:00 -Frog- wrote: holy crap.
It's crazy that we can watch BW progamer's first person view now. I used to savor the 5 seconds of FPV they'd show during proleague, I feel like a spoiled little girl now.
You should check out nevake for BNet Attack and Show me the Msl. Should do something to satiate the FPVOD hunger
On November 08 2011 08:47 Micket wrote: He's so fast, makes sc2 streamers look sluggish. Perfect mouse control and precision, virtually no spam except for lots of right clicking but tbh, everyone does that.
Yeap really fast. But you don't have to compare just HiyA and sc2 players to make the later look slow. You are gonna be faster in BW than SC2 just because of the mechanics. And the 4:3 aspect ratio and small picture makes you look alot faster too since you have to scroll thru the map more meanwhile in SC2 you have this huge fucking field of view. I for one feel really slow when I'm playing sc2 at least because of this.
I also wonder how fast he is in sc2 if he had played it that much yet. I can't really see him getting out the 400 apm there tbh. Unless he would spam a shitton that is.
On November 08 2011 08:17 telamascope wrote: Does anyone remember that game that Hiya played against some toss where he suddenly builds 6 raxes in response to seeing carriers already out? He goes straight up bio and ends up taking the game.
Love how the commentator's all like "why is HiyA being so dumb with building marines? He's not doing anything." And then "Well, I guess if he kills all of the interceptors, violet won't be able to produce more."
Yeah the caster was making me mad, but tpld says it does not have the original vod so no choice.
On November 08 2011 08:17 telamascope wrote: Does anyone remember that game that Hiya played against some toss where he suddenly builds 6 raxes in response to seeing carriers already out? He goes straight up bio and ends up taking the game.
Love how the commentator's all like "why is HiyA being so dumb with building marines? He's not doing anything." And then "Well, I guess if he kills all of the interceptors, violet won't be able to produce more."
Yeah the caster was making me mad, but tpld says it does not have the original vod so no choice.
the original vod does exist, it's under moktira, not nevake
Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
omg how dare he not believe it we must show him!
First, that was a TLer himself that sent him that. We wanted him to be aware that he had 2x viewers watching the re-stream than he had on Afreeca itself.
I agree this must be fixed. I think the plan is to get ahold of him next he streams, but if someone posted a Korean message to him we could copy/paste it and hit his twitter to let him know what's up.
So how many views does he get on Afreeca 200 viewers while he gets 400 on tl? I am kind of surprised its that low considering (as far as I know) progamers in bw never streamed o_o. I would watch that shit all day if they did back then especially if jaedong could (I know hiya said they couldn't T_T).
savior was getting like, well over 3k on afreeca. not sure that hiya was only getting 200. what afreeca does is split at a certain number and create a new copy of the stream, so numbers you saw on yosuls stream could just be one of those. also consider that hiya was playing at like, 3am KST
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
omg how dare he not believe it we must show him!
First, that was a TLer himself that sent him that. We wanted him to be aware that he had 2x viewers watching the re-stream than he had on Afreeca itself.
I agree this must be fixed. I think the plan is to get ahold of him next he streams, but if someone posted a Korean message to him we could copy/paste it and hit his twitter to let him know what's up.
Yes,that was Seohyun but,HiyA didnt give response on fish server.After that koreans tried to tell him on afreeca chat,but he said this things >.<
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
omg how dare he not believe it we must show him!
First, that was a TLer himself that sent him that. We wanted him to be aware that he had 2x viewers watching the re-stream than he had on Afreeca itself.
I agree this must be fixed. I think the plan is to get ahold of him next he streams, but if someone posted a Korean message to him we could copy/paste it and hit his twitter to let him know what's up.
Yes,that was Seohyun but,HiyA didnt give response on fish server.After that koreans tried to tell him on afreeca chat,but he said this things >.<
Someone needs to just link him the stream tomorrow once it gets some viewers so he can see for himself!
On November 08 2011 13:16 Selth wrote: Do you guys know if HiyA is aware of his fanbase here at TL? Since he seems to have free time now, this would be a good chance for him to get acquainted with TL. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Yesterday some korean tried to tell him "foreigners watching you in team liquid,you has 400-500ish viewers" but
HiyA said "stop being silly,teamliquid is a starcraft 2 team" and dont believe to viewers.hahahahahaha
omg how dare he not believe it we must show him!
First, that was a TLer himself that sent him that. We wanted him to be aware that he had 2x viewers watching the re-stream than he had on Afreeca itself.
I agree this must be fixed. I think the plan is to get ahold of him next he streams, but if someone posted a Korean message to him we could copy/paste it and hit his twitter to let him know what's up.
Yes,that was Seohyun but,HiyA didnt give response on fish server.After that koreans tried to tell him on afreeca chat,but he said this things >.<
Someone needs to just link him the stream tomorrow once it gets some viewers so he can see for himself!
On November 08 2011 15:49 nok.jp wrote: haha hiya finally noticed that TL is starcraft community in oversea! lol
The dumbass hasn't really noticed it yet, he still thinks it's just an SC2-team.
I'd kill for him to get picked up by any team and remain in BW progaming instead of doing something else (read: switch to some other game which shall not be mentioned).
On November 08 2011 15:49 nok.jp wrote: haha hiya finally noticed that TL is starcraft community in oversea! lol
The dumbass hasn't really noticed it yet, he still thinks it's just an SC2-team.
I'd kill for him to get picked up by any team and remain in BW progaming instead of doing something else (read: switch to some other game which shall not be mentioned).
On November 08 2011 17:30 Holgerius wrote: Whoah, cool.
Someone translate that properly asap! :D
As you wish.
Ahhhhhh team liquid was a foreign starcraft community!! There were a lot of people trying to bait me (troll) ㅠㅡㅠ I'm honoured that people oversees are tuning in ~(^_^)~
On November 08 2011 17:30 Holgerius wrote: Whoah, cool.
Someone translate that properly asap! :D
As you wish.
Ahhhhhh team liquid was a foreign starcraft community!! There were a lot of people trying to bait me (troll) ㅠㅡㅠ I'm honoured that people oversees are tuning in ~(^_^)~
Well at least he knows that there's a following here and that TL isn't just a SC2 team. Thanks for the quick translation
Hiya is extremely funny and honest.... but also depressing reading the chat when he talks about his work ethics, current state and his performance last season.
Hope his surgery goes well. Sorry I thought wrongly of Hiya all these years ;;
This is that article about Lomo entering the military he showed during yesterday's stream that he commented on. The top voted comment is from HiyA himself. It says "Looks like I'll be following you in soon, friend (Author: Carp)".
Ooh, can't wait till I get home from work and see this. Such high skill level, its such big pleasure to watch. Last night, when people tried to tell him about teamliquid. I was gasping my breath from excitement.
On November 08 2011 22:08 nokz88 wrote: I'd think that the only pro bw stream out there would have more viewers... it has less than 100 at the moment.
It just started. Yesterday he had about 500 despite some troubles with regional limits. Still sad to see a number so low compared to what the featured sc2 streams get, but 500 is good for a BW stream.
On November 08 2011 22:08 nokz88 wrote: I'd think that the only pro bw stream out there would have more viewers... it has less than 100 at the moment.
It just started. Yesterday he had about 500 despite some troubles with regional limits. Still sad to see a number so low compared to what the featured sc2 streams get, but 500 is good for a BW stream.
To get more viewers, just advertise this in one of the Chinese forums.
On November 08 2011 22:08 nokz88 wrote: I'd think that the only pro bw stream out there would have more viewers... it has less than 100 at the moment.
It just started. Yesterday he had about 500 despite some troubles with regional limits. Still sad to see a number so low compared to what the featured sc2 streams get, but 500 is good for a BW stream.
To get more viewers, just advertise this in one of the Chinese forums.
Off topic : 모든 히어로선수들 힘내자 항상 응원할게요! "힘내야지 파이팅!! ^ㅡ^~ " - 고석현 06.11.11 I am just curious what does these mean in your signature ? ^^
On November 08 2011 22:19 Kiante wrote: I reckon if yosul's name was changed to something like "ex-hwaesung oz Hiya" with a terran icon next to it the viewer number would double
yosul is just someone streaming HiyA's Afreeca stream though, as I understand. So... it wouldn't really be accurate.
On November 08 2011 22:08 nokz88 wrote: I'd think that the only pro bw stream out there would have more viewers... it has less than 100 at the moment.
It just started. Yesterday he had about 500 despite some troubles with regional limits. Still sad to see a number so low compared to what the featured sc2 streams get, but 500 is good for a BW stream.
To get more viewers, just advertise this in one of the Chinese forums.
Off topic : 모든 히어로선수들 힘내자 항상 응원할게요! "힘내야지 파이팅!! ^ㅡ^~ " - 고석현 06.11.11 I am just curious what does these mean in your signature ? ^^
All HERO players hang in there I'll always support you!
"I must hang in there, fighting!! ^ㅡ^~" - Hyun 06.11.11
On November 08 2011 22:08 nokz88 wrote: I'd think that the only pro bw stream out there would have more viewers... it has less than 100 at the moment.
It just started. Yesterday he had about 500 despite some troubles with regional limits. Still sad to see a number so low compared to what the featured sc2 streams get, but 500 is good for a BW stream.
To get more viewers, just advertise this in one of the Chinese forums.
Off topic : 모든 히어로선수들 힘내자 항상 응원할게요! "힘내야지 파이팅!! ^ㅡ^~ " - 고석현 06.11.11 I am just curious what does these mean in your signature ? ^^
All HERO players hang in there I'll always support you!
"I must hang in there, fighting!! ^ㅡ^~" - Hyun 06.11.11
hyun T_T , please make it in to a pro gaming team ......
On November 08 2011 22:08 nokz88 wrote: I'd think that the only pro bw stream out there would have more viewers... it has less than 100 at the moment.
It just started. Yesterday he had about 500 despite some troubles with regional limits. Still sad to see a number so low compared to what the featured sc2 streams get, but 500 is good for a BW stream.
To get more viewers, just advertise this in one of the Chinese forums.
Off topic : 모든 히어로선수들 힘내자 항상 응원할게요! "힘내야지 파이팅!! ^ㅡ^~ " - 고석현 06.11.11 I am just curious what does these mean in your signature ? ^^
All HERO players hang in there I'll always support you!
"I must hang in there, fighting!! ^ㅡ^~" - Hyun 06.11.11
hyun T_T , please make it in to a pro gaming team ......
Dear lord, I hope he goes and contacts all the existing teams. Gotta leave your pride behind in these circumstances.
On November 08 2011 23:16 TheDefiler_Saves wrote: Hope it is useful, and maybe it can be added to the OP. All games except against it-mom is on Fighting spirit.
WOAH that game was intense. Why did hiya build literally NO turrets in the main? even accounting for spawn positions, isn't it still a good idea to have at least a few turrets there?
On November 09 2011 07:38 BroodWarHD wrote: Scan said he was gonna TvT with hiya tomorrow 9 KST and translated some TvP insight from Hiya: http://www.multiupload.com/DF19IL440M
Lol, Scan's in way over his head imo. He's good, no doubt, but he's not on the same level. I remember Luxury crushing him.
Why???? Why did I have to go to school TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Im really sad I missed this after watching every minute of the previous streams TT....nonetheless Im sure the rest of our TL members showed Hiya some foreign love
Holy fuck he's so good, not so much with offraces haha.
Seriously no matter how much I try, I can never macro perfectly past a certain point in time in each M/U, earlier if you count the small macro tricks such as maynarding each worker perfectly.
I've been playing too much SC2 lately, and the fucking sheer raw speed of BW progamers still amazes me. No MBS/automine/limited ctrl groups makes any RTS really fucking difficult.
On November 09 2011 08:23 KobraKay wrote: Why???? Why did I have to go to school TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Im really sad I missed this after watching every minute of the previous streams TT....nonetheless Im sure the rest of our TL members showed Hiya some foreign love
I know right? I failed the test of faith I was watching when we were trying to get him to check the link and he kept ignoring sephy. Then I left to do something else. Thinking it wasn't happening and he was just in chatroom. I check the thread later and apparently awesomeness transpired. Still happy though! :D
On November 09 2011 07:38 BroodWarHD wrote: Scan said he was gonna TvT with hiya tomorrow 9 KST and translated some TvP insight from Hiya: http://www.multiupload.com/DF19IL440M
don't see it posted here, but just that hiya did talk about teamliquid on his twitter! saying he was honored that international community knows him! + Show Spoiler +
On November 09 2011 10:43 N.geNuity wrote: don't see it posted here, but just that hiya did talk about teamliquid on his twitter! saying he was honored that international community knows him! + Show Spoiler +
Kespa has shown interest in sc2 lately yea. That might very well be the case. Hiya has indicated that BW will not live for much longer too, I'd agree but not willingly :/
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
It was actually a 1/3 cut, so he'd be getting 2/3 of his former salary. He'd probably be outraged if they only offered him 1/3.
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
It was actually a 1/3 cut, so he'd be getting 2/3 of his former salary. He'd probably be outraged if they only offered him 1/3.
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, since he said he would play SC2 all day long yesterday.
Also, a 1/3 reduction in salary seems like a slap in the face, especially since everyone except Jaedong got a raise.
Looks like he's almost certainly gonna retire then. It surprises me that 2/3 of his original salary was enough to make him not want a team again, but I'm guessing he was already unhappy with his old salary and maybe he doesn't enjoy the life of a progamer.
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.
Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:
On November 09 2011 12:22 Motivate wrote: Looks like he's almost certainly gonna retire then. It surprises me that 2/3 of his original salary was enough to make him not want a team again, but I'm guessing he was already unhappy with his old salary and maybe he doesn't enjoy the life of a progamer.
His salary was $100k for 2 year.
$50k for 1 year.
2/3 would be $70k for 2 year?
$35k for 1 year?
definitely not good enough for HiyA.
To be honest,he has better chance for making more money in Starcraft 2.
tbh if he just keeps streaming for a year tht would be even more awesome, at least for me personally. You just can't see this level of play anywhere else since pros aren't allowed to stream. I guess his fans might be more upset. edit: nvm im confused now. Does he wanna play or sc2 or not?
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote: He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.
Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote: He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.
Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote: He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.
Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:
He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.
Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:
thanks a bunch for subbing. I can't believe I missed it, when I was still watching, it seemed like he wasn't interested in looking into the stream and it was pretty late so I went to bed. Arghhhhh now after watching that video I'm kicking myself. I love how everyone just went all mental the second he figured out how to make an account on twitch LOL. Hollywood fishking!
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, since he said he would play SC2 all day long yesterday.
Also, a 1/3 reduction in salary seems like a slap in the face, especially since everyone except Jaedong got a raise.
The articles only mentioned that members of the dream team got a raise. The rest who were drafted probably didn't. Hyun was on 20k and teams thought that was too expensive too.
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, since he said he would play SC2 all day long yesterday.
Also, a 1/3 reduction in salary seems like a slap in the face, especially since everyone except Jaedong got a raise.
The articles only mentioned that members of the dream team got a raise. The rest who were drafted probably didn't. Hyun was on 20k and teams thought that was too expensive too.
HiyA said that the salaries found in articles are usually wrong so how much Hyun gets isn't really known.
On November 09 2011 13:22 Sawamura wrote: What song was playing in the background when he was talking about team liquid ?
On November 09 2011 10:54 kakaman wrote: What does his comment about joining Kespa's side for SC2 mean? An SC2 league within Kespa is starting up?
in the chat today, he was saying he thinks there may be like kespa tournaments where non-kespa sanctioned sc2 progamers can't play. He would expect gsl to let kespa players in, but only kespa players could play kespa tourneys. At least I think that was the reasoning (I rely on the translations of others--thanks clefairy-- so don't really trust me). He also said people have said bw would die for the past 10 years, so he "doesn't know what to think" about longetivity of the scene. He wants a year break to relax before military, since he hasn't any time to himself since end of high school until now (23 korean; 22 western).
There was something about how he would have continued playing, but only offers was 1/3 his old salary or along those lines. So he says he isn't looking for a team now, and wouldn't play sc2 for a team either. He is having a year off and wants to enter military late.
Thanks for the clarification. Sounds like he has no idea what he wants to do, since he said he would play SC2 all day long yesterday.
Also, a 1/3 reduction in salary seems like a slap in the face, especially since everyone except Jaedong got a raise.
The articles only mentioned that members of the dream team got a raise. The rest who were drafted probably didn't. Hyun was on 20k and teams thought that was too expensive too.
HiyA said that the salaries found in articles are usually wrong so how much Hyun gets isn't really known.
On November 09 2011 13:39 Clefairy wrote: He'll probably go for longer since he's getting a webcam next month so that he can do something similar to the Terror cam
ok, thanks for the updates. I fell asleep after 3am so I missed out on a lot.
Ahhhh, I'm so jealous of all of you who were there when Hiya said hi to TL. XD He seems so cool! And he definitely deserved an explosive welcome from the chat. ^_^
On November 09 2011 13:39 deafhobbit wrote: Good God those mechanics - anyone questioning whether or not BW players who switch will dominate Sc2 should watch these games.
hiya's not even known for his mechanics - jaedong flash bisu hero baby are known to be a level above him and most other progamers
On November 09 2011 13:39 deafhobbit wrote: Good God those mechanics - anyone questioning whether or not BW players who switch will dominate Sc2 should watch these games.
hiya's not even known for his mechanics - jaedong flash bisu hero baby are known to be a level above him and most other progamers
hiya so gud tho
I know, but the general consensus of the Sc2 community seems to be that JD, Flash, Bisu, and other S class players are destined to dominate if they switch, but that average BW players won't have an advantage.
On November 09 2011 14:21 deafhobbit wrote: When does he usually stream?
The last couple of days he has been streaming at nighttime-morning Korean time. Something like 16:00 GMT (+00:00) to 23:00 GMT (+00:00), but he talked about starting earlier if he doesn't go out. He did talk about starting at 12:30 GMT (+00:00) yesterday so maybe he will come online around that time on some days. Usually he mostly talks gossip and does Q&A (with Korean chat) in the last couple of hours of his streaming sessions (and some strategy mixed in, but not a lot).
On November 09 2011 12:22 Motivate wrote: Looks like he's almost certainly gonna retire then. It surprises me that 2/3 of his original salary was enough to make him not want a team again, but I'm guessing he was already unhappy with his old salary and maybe he doesn't enjoy the life of a progamer.
His salary was $100k for 2 year.
$50k for 1 year.
2/3 would be $70k for 2 year?
$35k for 1 year?
definitely not good enough for HiyA.
To be honest,he has better chance for making more money in Starcraft 2.
On November 09 2011 12:22 Motivate wrote: Looks like he's almost certainly gonna retire then. It surprises me that 2/3 of his original salary was enough to make him not want a team again, but I'm guessing he was already unhappy with his old salary and maybe he doesn't enjoy the life of a progamer.
His salary was $100k for 2 year.
$50k for 1 year.
2/3 would be $70k for 2 year?
$35k for 1 year?
definitely not good enough for HiyA.
To be honest,he has better chance for making more money in Starcraft 2.
Not really.
It depends on results, really. For the Koreans, most of them do make quite a bit less than $35k -- $35k would be a godsend for a lot of them, I feel -- but a few of the top, top players are individually sponsored, and I imagine those sums are decently respectable.
So he's really, really sure that Kespa wants to allow their players to play SC2? All we've heard are rumours, it could still be the same situation as before where Kespa will call people up to get them to stop mid tournament.
On November 09 2011 13:39 deafhobbit wrote: Good God those mechanics - anyone questioning whether or not BW players who switch will dominate Sc2 should watch these games.
hiya's not even known for his mechanics - jaedong flash bisu hero baby are known to be a level above him and most other progamers
hiya so gud tho
I dunno.. Hiya IS known for being one of the highest APM players on the scene, isnt he? Like 420+average apm
On November 09 2011 17:51 firehand101 wrote: SC2 was a hard game :O this is a compliment to us coming from such an expert BW player haha yes!
Or maybe it was a nice way of him saying he doesn't want to play that game.
No because he has said that he wants to play sc2 in the future. He probably feels its hard because he has no understanding of sc2 yet. But if he played a few weeks it wouldn't be so hard tho.
On November 09 2011 17:51 firehand101 wrote: SC2 was a hard game :O this is a compliment to us coming from such an expert BW player haha yes!
Or maybe it was a nice way of him saying he doesn't want to play that game.
Maybe because he only recently started playing SC2, and others have had over a year of practice. But I have no doubts that once HOTS comes out and strategies reset, HiyA will be among the top.
Guyssss, him saying SC2 is hard is probably just him trying to be polite and avoiding serious/insensitive response. Also saying the inverse of that would make him seem blasphemous and arrogant. It's really just typical polite korean talk.
source: the million of translated interviews on TL
Edit: AWAITING HIYA STREAM TODAY :DD and !@#$ Kdramas
On November 09 2011 12:25 Clefairy wrote: He said that he wouldn't accept any offers from teams because he wanted a break to do the stuff he wanted after so many years just training since he never did get any time for himself. So he's going to get corrective jaw surgery early next year, continue streaming (he's getting a webcam next month too), move into an apartment with Bee as his roommate and try to go to the military as late as he can. He says he's certain that he's playing Starcraft 2 because it's something he wants to do. He thinks that SC2 teams and KeSPA live in two different worlds, so he doesn't want to join any SC2 teams and instead wants to stay in KeSPA.
Anyway I subbed TL's encounter with HiyA from today:
There was a quote from the modest Reddit thread about the video that just seemed too awesome.
[–]uw_NB (_) 29 points 8 hours ago (32|4) i dont know how to explain to the people who came to the scene after sc2 came out. Its like you have been loving a girl for 10 years but she never look at you. Today is the day you caught her walking by from far away. You tried to pose as you know she is coming and she finally noticed you and say hi. Sadly you got married to sc2 and now both you, the girl u like and ur wife is looking forward for a 3some in the near future.
"I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote: "I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
No point in speculating. He didn't say A teamers. The list of retirees in the past year or so is much longer than that. And it's not Kwanro because SKT made Kwanro sign a clause that requires him to return to T1 if he comes out of retirement.
Edit: When he posted his retirement message on his cyworld, Kwanro also made it very clear it's not because of match-fixing that he retired.
On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote: "I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote: "I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
Nah. Hogil retired because one day he woke up and realized that it was his destiny to give up his spot in the OSL to Jangbi, so that he could save the world BW with his awe inspiring victory.
On November 09 2011 13:39 deafhobbit wrote: Good God those mechanics - anyone questioning whether or not BW players who switch will dominate Sc2 should watch these games.
hiya's not even known for his mechanics - jaedong flash bisu hero baby are known to be a level above him and most other progamers
hiya so gud tho
I dunno.. Hiya IS known for being one of the highest APM players on the scene, isnt he? Like 420+average apm
Nope, about 330 average over the coarse of a 20-30 min game. He sticks around 400 in the first 8-10 minutes.
On November 09 2011 13:39 deafhobbit wrote: Good God those mechanics - anyone questioning whether or not BW players who switch will dominate Sc2 should watch these games.
hiya's not even known for his mechanics - jaedong flash bisu hero baby are known to be a level above him and most other progamers
hiya so gud tho
I dunno.. Hiya IS known for being one of the highest APM players on the scene, isnt he? Like 420+average apm
Nope, about 330 average over the coarse of a 20-30 min game. He sticks around 400 in the first 8-10 minutes.
On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote: "I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
Kwanro/Hogil both had decent results when theyquit. IIRC ForGG wasn't doing too awfully either, just not really living up to his past successes. Speculation is really pointless, in fact if it was someone like Nada/July/Boxer I'd rather not know.
This is like bnet attack every time I turn in. The star is just destroying the chumps he manages to match against. I am so happy HiyA is streaming.
EDIT: So much thanks to everyone translating and everything else. It's so easy to watch and hear a Korean progamer, and I have the collective badassery of TL to thank. This is the best thread on TL at the moment.
On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote: "I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
Kwanro/Hogil both had decent results when theyquit. IIRC ForGG wasn't doing too awfully either, just not really living up to his past successes. Speculation is really pointless, in fact if it was someone like Nada/July/Boxer I'd rather not know.
Yeah he said yesterday forgg was good and not one of the two guys.
Hiya's heavy factory play in tvp is just so beautiful to watch, shit! Dt's and fast arbiters? Np, take quick third and kill without vessels or even starport tech.
On November 10 2011 00:34 ninini wrote: "I'm not sure whether that rumour is true,The gamers that didn't get caught match fixing.I know of two,the two that I know of both retired."
That's a pretty big statement by Hiya. The non-practice partner players who have retired since the scandal, other than ForGG are: Firefist, Frozen, Hogil, July, Kwanro, MVP, Nada, Boxer, Puma and Iron. Did I miss anyone?
I highly doubt Nada or Boxer would be involved in something like this, and I don't think Iron(MC) played often enough that he would get the offer. It's probably someone on Hite, CJ, KT or STX, since these teams already had match-fixers. So, Firefist on KT, Frozen or July on STX, Hogil or Puma on Hite or Kwanro on CJ. I think the players who switched to SC2 are less likely to be involved, so Firefist, Frozen, Kwanro and Hogil sounds like the main suspects. If you look at Kwanro it makes sense. He fell in ranking after that event. Hogil also left the scene at a weird time, when he was just starting to put out good results, maybe the guilt caught up with him. But then this could just be a rumour.
No point in speculating. He didn't say A teamers. The list of retirees in the past year or so is much longer than that. And it's not Kwanro because SKT made Kwanro sign a clause that requires him to return to T1 if he comes out of retirement.
Edit: When he posted his retirement message on his cyworld, Kwanro also made it very clear it's not because of match-fixing that he retired.
Why would a B teamer be offered to match fix? They don't even play regularly and they are expected to lose anyway. I'm positive that the ppl Hiya was thinking about was among those players I mentioned. That doesn't mean it's true though. Anyway, I think Kwanro just looks more suspicious by mentioning that he didn't quit because of the match-fixing.
On November 10 2011 00:45 Sawamura wrote:
kwanro,hogil and frozen but if they were match fixing why weren't they pull down with all the other match fixers ?
i'll try restreaming him, not sure how well its going to work for me tho. he's playing on hunters 4v4 at the moment. i'm guessing its to warm up or something
On November 10 2011 23:45 Kiante wrote: Looks like he just turned his stream on now
i'll try restreaming him, not sure how well its going to work for me tho. he's playing on hunters 4v4 at the moment. i'm guessing its to warm up or something
Hiya went rax -> CC, 3->4 rax with rine + bat + medic push Savior got greedy and expo first and then when the initial hiya army comes, he had 2 sunkens, 1 creep in making, 1 block hatchery in making but failed to see the army so he cancelled the creep and hatchery.
Hiya initial army rolls thru Savior's expo, kills expo hatch... Savior came back a little with muta but lost a lot of mutas due to mis-micro
Hiya snipes Savior's third and just streamrolls Savior in the end with mnm....
On November 12 2011 01:24 konadora wrote: JUST SAW THAT HIYA PLAYING AGINSTS AVIOAS OMFG
Lol, I saw this and I was like ''Why is he getting excited about Hiya playing someone called ''Avioas''? O_o Never even heard of the guy. Then I go to the stream chat and ask who he's playing. It makes sense now. :D
Oh noooo why did I miss this?! Savior vs Hiya must have been some awesome stream to watch today....
Hiya is a total baller, his stream is pure gold, sure hope I thinks again about what to do in life and tries to go for a bw team still. If not, if he really wants to give sc2 a try at least the scene will gain an awesome personality and a talented player.
On November 12 2011 07:01 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote: Told you savior is trash compared to the progamers of today. ;o
Maybe, maybe not. You couldn't really tell from just two games he played against one Terran. And anyway, trash is far too strong - you and I are trash compared to all of them.
On November 15 2011 22:37 Torte de Lini wrote: That masturbating issue has been burning my mind for age. I wondered how the hell did they manage with dormates.
The TL staff just took the decision to ban any Savior stream on TL. You have the possibility, as Manifesto7 stated on the now closed savior on afreeca thread, to give your opinion about it on the website feedback forum here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=285551 Stay courteous and maybe they'll change their mind.
As much as I love and hate sAviOr, I have to say he is just utterly ridiculously brilliant once he knows the opponent's habits and flaws and make effective use of his mere 200-240 APM.
I'm impartial to sAviOr stream ban; to ban other streams for playing sAviOr however, repeatedly or not, is unjust and I hope admins withdraw that part of the policy.
On November 16 2011 04:10 Hesmyrr wrote: I'm impartial to sAviOr stream ban; to ban other streams for playing sAviOr however, repeatedly or not, is unjust and I hope admins withdraw that part of the policy.
wrong thread, let's try not to get off topic guys.
thanks yosul for the stream, I really appreciate it
On November 16 2011 05:01 Ryo wrote: Zergman is the former Samsung player aka Hyuk's older brother.
Man, it's sad to hear that people know Zergman as Hyuk's older brother. He was such a cool zerg. It sucks that Samsung didn't value him enough.
Did Hiya find a team yet?
No he didn't. According to Yosul/museun, he is not planning on taking any offers unless they pay enough, so far nothing. Also Hiya apparently said he will go to a surgery and army if he doesn't get a decent offer or he will move to SC2 if Kespa expands.
On November 16 2011 05:01 Ryo wrote: Zergman is the former Samsung player aka Hyuk's older brother.
Man, it's sad to hear that people know Zergman as Hyuk's older brother. He was such a cool zerg. It sucks that Samsung didn't value him enough.
Did Hiya find a team yet?
No he didn't. According to Yosul/museun, he is not planning on taking any offers unless they pay enough, so far nothing. Also Hiya apparently said he will go to a surgery and army if he doesn't get a decent offer or he will move to SC2 if Kespa expands.
LOL he just said: "You know why I don't do reactions [for receiving donations] like 1a2a3a? I'm thinking of playing SC2 professionally and if you scream like 1a2a3a no team will accept you"
Hold on, why are you offline then? Wasn't it only when re-streaming Savior or is this just personal choice? I appreciate your streaming, but i think it's ridiculous to go offline when someone is playing Savior.
It was a rule in the thread. It has currently been temporarily been revoked pending more discussion. But it was a rule, i was following it. plain and simple ^_^
On November 18 2011 00:13 Kiante wrote: It was a rule in the thread. It has currently been temporarily been revoked pending more discussion. But it was a rule, i was following it. plain and simple ^_^
Ah, so it's a rule. I thought it was only when re-streaming savior's stream. My bad, carry on. Thanks for the stream nevertheless.
On November 16 2011 17:45 rotinegg wrote: LOL he just said: "You know why I don't do reactions [for receiving donations] like 1a2a3a? I'm thinking of playing SC2 professionally and if you scream like 1a2a3a no team will accept you"
Didn't he retire from starcraft due to his fathers death? Or have I just read something totally different and mixed it up with this?
On November 16 2011 17:45 rotinegg wrote: LOL he just said: "You know why I don't do reactions [for receiving donations] like 1a2a3a? I'm thinking of playing SC2 professionally and if you scream like 1a2a3a no team will accept you"
Didn't he retire from starcraft due to his fathers death? Or have I just read something totally different and mixed it up with this?
His father did die but I think his retirement from BW had more to do with him not being picked up by a new team.
On November 16 2011 17:45 rotinegg wrote: LOL he just said: "You know why I don't do reactions [for receiving donations] like 1a2a3a? I'm thinking of playing SC2 professionally and if you scream like 1a2a3a no team will accept you"
Didn't he retire from starcraft due to his fathers death? Or have I just read something totally different and mixed it up with this?
His father did die but I think his retirement from BW had more to do with him not being picked up by a new team.
So I take it he's seriously considering SC2. Alright. Sad to see him leave BW though.
On November 16 2011 17:45 rotinegg wrote: LOL he just said: "You know why I don't do reactions [for receiving donations] like 1a2a3a? I'm thinking of playing SC2 professionally and if you scream like 1a2a3a no team will accept you"
Didn't he retire from starcraft due to his fathers death? Or have I just read something totally different and mixed it up with this?
His father did die but I think his retirement from BW had more to do with him not being picked up by a new team.
So I take it he's seriously considering SC2. Alright. Sad to see him leave BW though.
No he is not, he has left esports. And his father's death was a large factor in his decision, it appears that things from his personal life affected his professional life a lot.
HiyA is the most western personality of all progamers (along with Hyun), he would easily be the most fun to hang out with in real life. I want to be your friend, hiya -_-
Hiya will film an episode of the Sungchun show tomorrow (23rd Nov) at 5.30pm KST at the Loox Hero Center, Mullae-dong. Fans are allowed to attend the recording live. This episode will air on 2nd December.
On November 22 2011 19:44 Ryo wrote: Hiya will film an episode of the Sungchun show tomorrow (23rd Nov) at 5.30pm KST at the Loox Hero Center, Mullae-dong. Fans are allowed to attend the recording live. This episode will air on 2nd December.
Aww... I want to go see him... but I can't afford to miss any more classes
On November 22 2011 19:44 Ryo wrote: Hiya will film an episode of the Sungchun show tomorrow (23rd Nov) at 5.30pm KST at the Loox Hero Center, Mullae-dong. Fans are allowed to attend the recording live. This episode will air on 2nd December.
Aww... I want to go see him... but I can't afford to miss any more classes
lies! by fifth year i stopped attending all my classes can't miss any more than that!
On November 22 2011 20:29 TheDefiler_Saves wrote: This channel is not on TL i think, but it has bw from afreeca like 24/7 and hiya quite often. http://www.twitch.tv/bgvrt
On November 23 2011 20:34 Ryo wrote: Hiya has finished recording his episode of the Sungchun show. The MBC staff took a picture of him with his fangirls.
I see you MSL banner T____T
And aww, Hiya looking good. Lucky fangirls that don't have class in the evening unlike some of us /cry
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I watched a bit of a restream on Daum and the stream died so I went to take a nap. I should have stayed awake. 
JD's constant thanking of Bee gains new overtones. HiYa so good - I vote for him to join Khan for better competition balance
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