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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 05 2011 19:57 GMT
#661
SKT1 was in talks with Shine, but then Bisu appeared from behind a red curtain and:

[image loading]

Shine fell down a trap door into unemployment.
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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 05 2011 20:03 GMT
#662
On November 06 2011 01:00 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 21:22 chongu wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:42 Motivate wrote:
I don't really feel convinced by the new team. JD and Killer on the same team is cool and all, but I don't see why it's so amazing pairing Jaedong with Sea and Baby. The latter 2 are kind of mediocre terrans, Sea basically being light minus amazing TvZ and Baby being stupidly inconsistent. Really pleased about Roro to Khan though (Khan has basically no decent zergs) and also happy about Mind->KT. SKT has way too many mediocre Zergs, they need another Terran.


I agree mostly with your statement. Except your Sea analysis >: D

Sea is really just the more balanced version of Light, with healthier winrates in TvP and TvT. Near 60% winrates overall and definitely Ace player standard.


Sea's "well-rounded but not elite at any matchup" trait makes him pretty much the worst type of Ace player you could get. At least Light can be matchup up against Jaedong, Hydra, Zero or Effort and be expected to win at least 50% of the time. Sea would be the underdog against pretty much any other team's Ace except for Air Force and STX. Fortunately it doesn't matter anymore because Jaedong has better vT, vZ and vP than Sea. As a #2, Sea is as good as it gets besides Fantasy.

Lee Ssang are a different category altogether but Sea's not called the King of Proleague for nothing. His performance last season wasn't as good as previous seasons but there's no denying that he's one of the best Ace players around. He also has the second best play-off record of all time.
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
November 05 2011 20:07 GMT
#663
I think TL polled opinions and came to the conclusion that Sea is the best player who has never won an individual league or something like that. He is worthy of being an ace player and stepping up to the plate, but I don't see him being ace anytime soon when JD is playing well or even Baby
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
dangots0ul
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States919 Posts
November 05 2011 20:09 GMT
#664
holy crap. baby gonna have such a good TvZ after this
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 05 2011 20:17 GMT
#665
The fact that Light left MBC during last season affected Sea's performance I believe. MBC had a hard time with Light gone until Jaehoon established himself nicely during the last 2 rounds of PL.
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
November 05 2011 20:46 GMT
#666
Why is no one picking up Jaedong - -;;....... I would have thought teams would be jumping through hoops on fire to get him
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
November 05 2011 20:57 GMT
#667
On November 06 2011 05:46 Seeker wrote:
Why is no one picking up Jaedong - -;;....... I would have thought teams would be jumping through hoops on fire to get him



He was saved, the top 2 in Kespa rankings from each team was moved to new team regardless
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
November 05 2011 21:24 GMT
#668
On November 06 2011 04:57 Fionn wrote:
SKT1 was in talks with Shine, but then Bisu appeared from behind a red curtain and:

[image loading]

Shine fell down a trap door into unemployment.

I lol'd at this but, seriously what happened to Shine?
KenNage
Profile Joined May 2009
Chile885 Posts
November 05 2011 21:29 GMT
#669
On November 06 2011 04:57 Fionn wrote:
SKT1 was in talks with Shine, but then Bisu appeared from behind a red curtain and:

[image loading]

Shine fell down a trap door into unemployment.


ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhhaahahahahahaha
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
November 05 2011 22:30 GMT
#670
Holy fuck this is the most amazing news I have read in a long time. So pumped.
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
November 05 2011 22:35 GMT
#671
On November 06 2011 04:57 Fionn wrote:
SKT1 was in talks with Shine, but then Bisu appeared from behind a red curtain and:

[image loading]

Shine fell down a trap door into unemployment.


felt like i had to quote the bisu pic once again, just because.
cive
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada370 Posts
November 05 2011 22:39 GMT
#672
On November 06 2011 04:57 Fionn wrote:
SKT1 was in talks with Shine, but then Bisu appeared from behind a red curtain and:

[image loading]

Shine fell down a trap door into unemployment.


LOL LOL LOL LOL

I love the damn storm zerg, shine :'(

I wish for more good news regarding many other players from all three disbanded teams.
Play Terran
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
November 05 2011 23:40 GMT
#673
On November 06 2011 05:07 Archers_bane wrote:
I think TL polled opinions and came to the conclusion that Sea is the best player who has never won an individual league or something like that. He is worthy of being an ace player and stepping up to the plate, but I don't see him being ace anytime soon when JD is playing well or even Baby

YellOw. Midas.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
November 05 2011 23:46 GMT
#674
holy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

JD + Sea on the same team = sex
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
November 05 2011 23:57 GMT
#675
comon SKT. Pick up Hiya. At least have another Terran after Fantasy that isn't Ssak.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8101 Posts
November 06 2011 00:52 GMT
#676
clearly mind knew beforehand that KT was going to buy him, explaining he and stats getting chin surgery at the same time. otherwise that'd just be way too much chin for 1 team.
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Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
November 06 2011 01:33 GMT
#677
Damn, it's about time that there's some Broodwar happening again. Good to hear that KeSPA have managed to do something besides being dicks for a change, this new team should be awesome. Jaedong/Killer is fine Zerg lineup and Sea/Baby have the Terran side well covered, however between those three teams they still didn't manage to scrape together even a single decent Protoss, that's pretty funny (and no, Jaehoon and Tyson are not strong Protoss players, they are better than Oz tosses but that's about it).
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NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
November 06 2011 01:40 GMT
#678
On November 06 2011 05:46 Seeker wrote:
Why is no one picking up Jaedong - -;;....... I would have thought teams would be jumping through hoops on fire to get him


Did you not read the OP? Top two players from each race were instantly drafted to the new team. It wasn't that nobody wanted them because I'm sure other teams would have taken most of them, but that they were needed to make the new team viable. I would however like to say that I think they are a hell of a lot more than viable. Fucking sexy lineup.
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
November 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#679
so can someone make a post if they are practicing sc2 at all or like 50-50 or something cause i thought sc1 was kinda switching over with the latest news
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
November 06 2011 04:29 GMT
#680
Great to see that it worked out in the end.
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