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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50616 Posts
November 06 2011 04:53 GMT
#681
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=121035&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

new formos article on the players that are not drafted yet...help me understand it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sillylaughs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada198 Posts
November 06 2011 05:06 GMT
#682
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams
Nada/Midas/Mind/Baby [WMF Terrans forever]
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:38:51
November 06 2011 05:36 GMT
#683
On November 06 2011 04:57 Fionn wrote:
SKT1 was in talks with Shine, but then Bisu appeared from behind a red curtain and:

[image loading]

Shine fell down a trap door into unemployment.


Ok guys .. this quotation was bound to happen ..


On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)


I'll be sad if this happens .. Such a waste of talent and showmanship ..

Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:38:36
November 06 2011 05:38 GMT
#684
crap misclick sry
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50616 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:43:58
November 06 2011 05:41 GMT
#685
On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams


SASHIN PLEASE COACH KESPA TEAM!

yes there only one Lee Young Ho now! best of luck to you Lucifer!

Ryo will be sad if saint decides to retire...so would I,and Hiya needs a team or else he will go to SC2....

I hope the others find teams too,but the rookies are my biggest worries right now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 06 2011 05:49 GMT
#686
On November 06 2011 14:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams


SASHIN PLEASE COACH KESPA TEAM!

yes there only one Lee Young Ho now! best of luck to you Lucifer!

Ryo will be sad if saint decides to retire...so would I,and Hiya needs a team or else he will go to SC2....

I hope the others find teams too,but the rookies are my biggest worries right now.


Come on KT I am sure you can accommodate Hiya in to our team
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
gds
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Iceland1391 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:52:43
November 06 2011 05:49 GMT
#687
On November 06 2011 13:20 Drazzyo wrote:
so can someone make a post if they are practicing sc2 at all or like 50-50 or something cause i thought sc1 was kinda switching over with the latest news


BW is a full time job, you cant 50/50 bw/sc2, the level of modern broodwar players is so high that any players who consider doing anything else than broodwar 24/24 is dead in this extreme competitive environment.

No news said sc1 players were mass switching, it was all rumors and stated as such. A lot of people just tl;dr threads and then spread false informations, i guess this it what happened.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50616 Posts
November 06 2011 05:50 GMT
#688
On November 06 2011 14:49 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 14:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams


SASHIN PLEASE COACH KESPA TEAM!

yes there only one Lee Young Ho now! best of luck to you Lucifer!

Ryo will be sad if saint decides to retire...so would I,and Hiya needs a team or else he will go to SC2....

I hope the others find teams too,but the rookies are my biggest worries right now.


Come on KT I am sure you can accommodate Hiya in to our team


naw KT is too stacked for him though,should go to STX or Khan.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 05:53:32
November 06 2011 05:53 GMT
#689
On November 06 2011 14:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 14:49 Sawamura wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams


SASHIN PLEASE COACH KESPA TEAM!

yes there only one Lee Young Ho now! best of luck to you Lucifer!

Ryo will be sad if saint decides to retire...so would I,and Hiya needs a team or else he will go to SC2....

I hope the others find teams too,but the rookies are my biggest worries right now.


Come on KT I am sure you can accommodate Hiya in to our team


naw KT is too stacked for him though,should go to STX or Khan.


I think kt still can use another terran just in case flash hand isn't really doing that well ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 06:03:02
November 06 2011 06:02 GMT
#690
Midas, Shine, and Ruby are way too good to retire. They need to find a team, asap.

But that's the problem of only 8 teams. Not enough room to spread out existing talent while still allowing rookies and up and comers to play. I know there's Dream League, but it's not the same as letting new pros take a shot at A-class players.

Khan and STX better get some combination of Midas, Shine, Ruby, and Hiya. I wouldn't mind Woongjin picking up one of them either. CJ, SKT1, New Team, KT, are too stacked as it is. For the sake of parity and competition hopefully things get balanced out.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
Sillylaughs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada198 Posts
November 06 2011 06:02 GMT
#691
Midas would be a good candidate as SKT's playing coach now that oov is gone..
Nada/Midas/Mind/Baby [WMF Terrans forever]
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
November 06 2011 06:06 GMT
#692
On November 06 2011 14:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams


SASHIN PLEASE COACH KESPA TEAM!

yes there only one Lee Young Ho now! best of luck to you Lucifer!

Ryo will be sad if saint decides to retire...so would I,and Hiya needs a team or else he will go to SC2....

I hope the others find teams too,but the rookies are my biggest worries right now.

I really hope Saint can become a coach. But if that doesn't happen then I expect him to enter university. When he was young he wanted to be a history teacher.
It's the rookies that I'm most concerned about, specifically Check and Wow. I hope that they can continue pro-gaming if they desire to.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
November 06 2011 06:08 GMT
#693
On November 06 2011 01:00 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 21:22 chongu wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:42 Motivate wrote:
I don't really feel convinced by the new team. JD and Killer on the same team is cool and all, but I don't see why it's so amazing pairing Jaedong with Sea and Baby. The latter 2 are kind of mediocre terrans, Sea basically being light minus amazing TvZ and Baby being stupidly inconsistent. Really pleased about Roro to Khan though (Khan has basically no decent zergs) and also happy about Mind->KT. SKT has way too many mediocre Zergs, they need another Terran.


I agree mostly with your statement. Except your Sea analysis >: D

Sea is really just the more balanced version of Light, with healthier winrates in TvP and TvT. Near 60% winrates overall and definitely Ace player standard.


Sea's "well-rounded but not elite at any matchup" trait makes him pretty much the worst type of Ace player you could get. At least Light can be matchup up against Jaedong, Hydra, Zero or Effort and be expected to win at least 50% of the time. Sea would be the underdog against pretty much any other team's Ace except for Air Force and STX. Fortunately it doesn't matter anymore because Jaedong has better vT, vZ and vP than Sea. As a #2, Sea is as good as it gets besides Fantasy.


I'd like to state that by having Sea on the same team as jaedong - teams would be more reluctant/cautious to send zergs to ZvZ snipe jaedong in the ace match (JvZ aint what it used to be in a long time). Which pretty much happened for the whole of SPL10-11. The zergs I'm referring to are more along the lines of modesty, s2 and great : P

Of course this all depends on the Kespa coaching staff in their ace selections and a million other factors.
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
friendbg
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria576 Posts
November 06 2011 07:39 GMT
#694
On November 06 2011 14:53 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 14:50 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:49 Sawamura wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:41 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On November 06 2011 14:06 Sillylaughs wrote:
(P)Anytime = was thinking of becoming a playing coach, but now considering retirement
(P)LuCifer = Retirement
(Z)Saint = "Not sure, nothing has been decided"
(T)Lomo, (P)PerfectMan, (P)Pure = Army
(T)HiyA = Possibility of switching to sc2 (unconfirmed)
(Z)HyuN, (T)RuBy, (T)Midas, (Z)Shine = Wants to stay as a progamer
Most B-teamers likely retired if not became online practice partners for other teams


SASHIN PLEASE COACH KESPA TEAM!

yes there only one Lee Young Ho now! best of luck to you Lucifer!

Ryo will be sad if saint decides to retire...so would I,and Hiya needs a team or else he will go to SC2....

I hope the others find teams too,but the rookies are my biggest worries right now.


Come on KT I am sure you can accommodate Hiya in to our team


naw KT is too stacked for him though,should go to STX or Khan.


I think kt still can use another terran just in case flash hand isn't really doing that well ...


that's why they got mind
Why leave today's work for tomorrow, when you can do it the day after
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
November 06 2011 13:10 GMT
#695
Killer team.
And KT is imbalanced, anyone who objects probably has a KT icon.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
November 06 2011 13:13 GMT
#696
On November 06 2011 22:10 blubbdavid wrote:
Killer team.
And KT is imbalanced, anyone who objects probably has a KT icon.


how are we imbalanced ... I am not sure if my zerg players will carry their winning spirits T_T , I am crossing my finger hoping that my zerg line hoejja,action,perfective and crazy hydra doesn't fail me...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
November 06 2011 13:27 GMT
#697
Someone said in the "BW teams playing SC2" thread that BW players are playing both SC1 and SC2 because they don't know whether Kespa will introduce SC2 to proleague. So they're just covering their bases. Since there are no major tourneys going on, they can afford to dabble in SC2 right now. If proleague remains BW, I'm pretty sure they (or the teams' core at least) will then concentrate back on BW.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50616 Posts
November 06 2011 13:30 GMT
#698
On November 06 2011 22:10 blubbdavid wrote:
Killer team.
And KT is imbalanced, anyone who objects probably has a KT icon.


yeahhh we are imbalanced,I mean we have a solid T and Z lineup,but not so much on protoss,that is imbalanced.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4242 Posts
November 06 2011 14:05 GMT
#699
On November 06 2011 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 22:10 blubbdavid wrote:
Killer team.
And KT is imbalanced, anyone who objects probably has a KT icon.


yeahhh we are imbalanced,I mean we have a solid T and Z lineup,but not so much on protoss,that is imbalanced.


If my memory doesnt fail me Flash's P isnt that bad...just give him a funny hat and send him out twice

I'm sad while writing this because nobody knows how good will he be after that surgery I really hope he gets his God status back in full force!

Hiya could go to CJ...make Skyhigh and BByong and Rush (wtf I forgot the name TT) work harder for CJ's 2nd T spot after Leta. Then again that would just be overkill....and most of them would be unhappy not having that much playing time and probably the salary not up to par either due to huge lineup.

Btw anyone knows what happened to Reality and Turn?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-06 14:10:20
November 06 2011 14:08 GMT
#700
thanks Sillylaughs for summarizing the article.

Saint, I hope he will be a coach for the new team. hopefully.
Hiya...wonder why KT don't pick him.........

On November 06 2011 22:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 22:10 blubbdavid wrote:
Killer team.
And KT is imbalanced, anyone who objects probably has a KT icon.


yeahhh we are imbalanced,I mean we have a solid T and Z lineup,but not so much on protoss,that is imbalanced.


agree. in protoss line.
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