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Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
October 20 2011 16:18 GMT
#901
On October 21 2011 00:06 BritWrangler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 23:56 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wtf...this is crap
no offense but sc2 doesnt compare to bw in entertainment value and tbh i dont want to see half the proleague season streaming sc2 games which im not interested in at all
besides...doesnt sc2 have like 87685868 other leagues already
hard to follow the scene enough already, dont need to make it worse

Whether you prefer BW or SC2 is completely subjective. It's not a FACT that BW is more entertaining than sc2, that's just a completely retarded statement.

LOL GOLF IS WAY MORE ENTERTAINING THAN FOOTBALL WHO ARE THESE DICK HEADS THAT WATCH FOOTBALL ANYWAY?!?!?!?!

Just. Wrong.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1608 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 16:29:32
October 20 2011 16:22 GMT
#902
Good for SC2 community, but I fear it implies a faster decline of BW pro scene. I can't be against it since we'll have to face it one day. But imo, for the sake of BW, I'll be happier without a SC2 proleague.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
October 20 2011 16:31 GMT
#903
On October 21 2011 01:18 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 00:06 BritWrangler wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:56 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wtf...this is crap
no offense but sc2 doesnt compare to bw in entertainment value and tbh i dont want to see half the proleague season streaming sc2 games which im not interested in at all
besides...doesnt sc2 have like 87685868 other leagues already
hard to follow the scene enough already, dont need to make it worse

Whether you prefer BW or SC2 is completely subjective. It's not a FACT that BW is more entertaining than sc2, that's just a completely retarded statement.

LOL GOLF IS WAY MORE ENTERTAINING THAN FOOTBALL WHO ARE THESE DICK HEADS THAT WATCH FOOTBALL ANYWAY?!?!?!?!

Just. Wrong.


No it's not. It is subjective, given the choice i'd much rather watch sc2 then brood war. But I respect someone who thinks otherwise.
Cedstick
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada3336 Posts
October 20 2011 16:47 GMT
#904
It's pretty subjective, he's kinda right. I had as much fun watching SC2 on OGN as I did BW.
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chogoling
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia173 Posts
October 20 2011 16:49 GMT
#905
It may be subjective, but if you were to make a case for either to be more entertaining, BW would have far more points.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 16:49:55
October 20 2011 16:49 GMT
#906
On October 21 2011 01:31 NeonFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 01:18 Jenia6109 wrote:
On October 21 2011 00:06 BritWrangler wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:56 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wtf...this is crap
no offense but sc2 doesnt compare to bw in entertainment value and tbh i dont want to see half the proleague season streaming sc2 games which im not interested in at all
besides...doesnt sc2 have like 87685868 other leagues already
hard to follow the scene enough already, dont need to make it worse

Whether you prefer BW or SC2 is completely subjective. It's not a FACT that BW is more entertaining than sc2, that's just a completely retarded statement.

LOL GOLF IS WAY MORE ENTERTAINING THAN FOOTBALL WHO ARE THESE DICK HEADS THAT WATCH FOOTBALL ANYWAY?!?!?!?!

Just. Wrong.


No it's not. It is subjective, given the choice i'd much rather watch sc2 then brood war. But I respect someone who thinks otherwise.


I'm not going to lie. You're the first person that I've seen that's ever posted something like that.

Respect.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
October 20 2011 16:50 GMT
#907
Great news. A KeSPA ran SC2 league under Blizzard's watch could achieve stuff far bigger than what we've seen so far in e-sports.
Wildsound
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
October 20 2011 16:58 GMT
#908
MVP is like "shit, this could be the last time I ever earn any money. Better make sure I smash Blizzcon and the GSL final"
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
October 20 2011 17:01 GMT
#909
On October 21 2011 01:58 Wildsound wrote:
MVP is like "shit, this could be the last time I ever earn any money. Better make sure I smash Blizzcon and the GSL final"

Why?
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Omsomsoms
Profile Joined September 2011
Croatia194 Posts
October 20 2011 17:06 GMT
#910
On October 21 2011 02:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 01:58 Wildsound wrote:
MVP is like "shit, this could be the last time I ever earn any money. Better make sure I smash Blizzcon and the GSL final"

Why?


I think he means that he believes it's probable that BW pros will switch and that they'll oust MVP from his SC2 dominance.
oldfartz
Profile Joined October 2011
Philippines117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-20 17:15:00
October 20 2011 17:06 GMT
#911
Im sorry but with flash's dedication and brilliance i dont think he'll take months before catching up with sc2 elite. i wont blame him if he makes the switch over the weekend to make some extra dough


i mean cmon. comparing boxer,nada, july's results to the current top dogs in bw? effort was the only one with any worth and guess where he's headed now? just saying

For people saying blizzard's intentions are not really kill bw, just two questions:
how much money can blizzard make from bw now? = 0
how much money can blizzard make from marketing the hip new rts game which changed the tv landscape in a whole country culture using bw? = priceless
come on.
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
October 20 2011 17:11 GMT
#912
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Kroml
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey308 Posts
October 20 2011 17:13 GMT
#913
Awesome news!!! Can't wait to watch BW and SC2 side by side!
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
October 20 2011 17:15 GMT
#914
On October 21 2011 02:06 oldfartz wrote:
Im sorry but with flash's dedication and brilliance i dont think he'll take months before catching up with sc2 elite. i wont blame him if he makes the switch over the weekend to make some extra dough


Dedication means putting countless hours in, it's not something that helps can quickly switch over and his brillance is because he knows the games in and outs better then pretty much everyone else an advantage which would be removed if he switched over.

Flash as an amazing amount of potential but to say he could switch over and just start immediatly dominating is wishful thinking. It takes time and effort to become the best, it isn't an inate thing.
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
October 20 2011 17:15 GMT
#915
On October 21 2011 01:18 Jenia6109 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 00:06 BritWrangler wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:56 evilfatsh1t wrote:
wtf...this is crap
no offense but sc2 doesnt compare to bw in entertainment value and tbh i dont want to see half the proleague season streaming sc2 games which im not interested in at all
besides...doesnt sc2 have like 87685868 other leagues already
hard to follow the scene enough already, dont need to make it worse

Whether you prefer BW or SC2 is completely subjective. It's not a FACT that BW is more entertaining than sc2, that's just a completely retarded statement.

LOL GOLF IS WAY MORE ENTERTAINING THAN FOOTBALL WHO ARE THESE DICK HEADS THAT WATCH FOOTBALL ANYWAY?!?!?!?!

Just. Wrong.


how is it wrong? is there an objective measure of how entertaining something is to different people?
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
October 20 2011 17:15 GMT
#916
On October 21 2011 02:11 randomKo_Orean wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this is a bad news?


no there are a shit load of people who do think so.

I'm on the "can't be bad,but not really good at the same time" category
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#917
On October 20 2011 23:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 23:53 ArhK wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:34 ArhK wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:15 oldfartz wrote:
maybe flash could just do 1 week training, win first place then go back to BW lol


So retarded that it sounds comical...



No. It sounds about right to me. I'm pretty sure that if you give Flash a short amount of time, there's mistake that he'll wreck everyone on tour right now.


On October 20 2011 23:28 Matkap wrote:
you people should someday realise that everything in this world, is run by money, and when sponsors realise they can get more international exposure, and the same national exposure, they will "force" via kespa all the teams to switch, and if this is true, it is the first step.

After all some of the top Korean bw sponsors such as Samsung are already sponsoring international sc2 events...


Makes no sense. Not going to happen. No good reasoning/evidence to back it. Korea is still heavy on BW. Sponsors won't force them to switch.



So, a week seems enough for you to learn everything about mechanics, the whole metagame of every match up, on every map, and be the best in the world at that..?

You should stop jerking off at our SCBW gods and acknowledge that it will takes a _little_ more time than that to any top SCBW player to be able to "crush" a Mvp or a Nestea.


Did I say a week? No, I said it sounded about right. I apologize if you took me literally, but okay, let's say a week.

We're talking about Flash here. This is the guy who said he would win an OSL in a year. No one believed him, and he did it against some of the best players at the time (including Stork in the finals) at age 15. Now, given that everyone acknowledges that SC2 is an infinitely easier game to grasp, and BW mechanics can easily translate into SC2 mechanics, I have no doubt that it shouldn't take very long.

So okay. Maybe not a week. As the above poster stated, maybe a month.

Let's also remember that Flash thinks about SC more than he actually plays it. This guy plays like he has map hacks on.

Edit: Also, my thoughts on MVP and Nestea: once a baddie always a baddie. I don't think Flash will have problems after he gets used to it.
i don't think mvp in bw was 'bad.' he made his share of mistakes but he was not a dumb player. maybe his ultra turtley play obscured his skills.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5618 Posts
October 20 2011 17:21 GMT
#918
On October 21 2011 00:45 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 23:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:53 ArhK wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:34 ArhK wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:15 oldfartz wrote:
maybe flash could just do 1 week training, win first place then go back to BW lol


So retarded that it sounds comical...



No. It sounds about right to me. I'm pretty sure that if you give Flash a short amount of time, there's mistake that he'll wreck everyone on tour right now.


On October 20 2011 23:28 Matkap wrote:
you people should someday realise that everything in this world, is run by money, and when sponsors realise they can get more international exposure, and the same national exposure, they will "force" via kespa all the teams to switch, and if this is true, it is the first step.

After all some of the top Korean bw sponsors such as Samsung are already sponsoring international sc2 events...


Makes no sense. Not going to happen. No good reasoning/evidence to back it. Korea is still heavy on BW. Sponsors won't force them to switch.



So, a week seems enough for you to learn everything about mechanics, the whole metagame of every match up, on every map, and be the best in the world at that..?

You should stop jerking off at our SCBW gods and acknowledge that it will takes a _little_ more time than that to any top SCBW player to be able to "crush" a Mvp or a Nestea.


Did I say a week? No, I said it sounded about right. I apologize if you took me literally, but okay, let's say a week.

We're talking about Flash here. This is the guy who said he would win an OSL in a year. No one believed him, and he did it against some of the best players at the time (including Stork in the finals) at age 15. Now, given that everyone acknowledges that SC2 is an infinitely easier game to grasp, and BW mechanics can easily translate into SC2 mechanics, I have no doubt that it shouldn't take very long.

So okay. Maybe not a week. As the above poster stated, maybe a month.

Let's also remember that Flash thinks about SC more than he actually plays it. This guy plays like he has map hacks on.

Edit: Also, my thoughts on MVP and Nestea: once a baddie always a baddie. I don't think Flash will have problems after he gets used to it.

it's a different game....
did you see how long it took MVP to got to where he is now in SC2? Did you see how boxer, nada, july just aren't doing as well as you would hope?
that's because mechanics can only get you so far in sc2, not all play style can transition well to sc2


Excuse me, but Flash is the most talented RTS player to ever exist in any game. He got his progaming license at his first attempt, after a month of training. That is absolutely INSANE. He won his first OSL after a year since he had become a progamer. In 2010 he made it to nearly all the finals and carried his team to the PL finals. He won the WCG 2010 and saved a man's life in his spare time.

Let's see if any player can top that.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
October 20 2011 17:28 GMT
#919
On October 21 2011 02:21 maybenexttime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2011 00:45 ETisME wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:58 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:53 ArhK wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:34 ArhK wrote:
On October 20 2011 23:15 oldfartz wrote:
maybe flash could just do 1 week training, win first place then go back to BW lol


So retarded that it sounds comical...



No. It sounds about right to me. I'm pretty sure that if you give Flash a short amount of time, there's mistake that he'll wreck everyone on tour right now.


On October 20 2011 23:28 Matkap wrote:
you people should someday realise that everything in this world, is run by money, and when sponsors realise they can get more international exposure, and the same national exposure, they will "force" via kespa all the teams to switch, and if this is true, it is the first step.

After all some of the top Korean bw sponsors such as Samsung are already sponsoring international sc2 events...


Makes no sense. Not going to happen. No good reasoning/evidence to back it. Korea is still heavy on BW. Sponsors won't force them to switch.



So, a week seems enough for you to learn everything about mechanics, the whole metagame of every match up, on every map, and be the best in the world at that..?

You should stop jerking off at our SCBW gods and acknowledge that it will takes a _little_ more time than that to any top SCBW player to be able to "crush" a Mvp or a Nestea.


Did I say a week? No, I said it sounded about right. I apologize if you took me literally, but okay, let's say a week.

We're talking about Flash here. This is the guy who said he would win an OSL in a year. No one believed him, and he did it against some of the best players at the time (including Stork in the finals) at age 15. Now, given that everyone acknowledges that SC2 is an infinitely easier game to grasp, and BW mechanics can easily translate into SC2 mechanics, I have no doubt that it shouldn't take very long.

So okay. Maybe not a week. As the above poster stated, maybe a month.

Let's also remember that Flash thinks about SC more than he actually plays it. This guy plays like he has map hacks on.

Edit: Also, my thoughts on MVP and Nestea: once a baddie always a baddie. I don't think Flash will have problems after he gets used to it.

it's a different game....
did you see how long it took MVP to got to where he is now in SC2? Did you see how boxer, nada, july just aren't doing as well as you would hope?
that's because mechanics can only get you so far in sc2, not all play style can transition well to sc2


Excuse me, but Flash is the most talented RTS player to ever exist in any game. He got his progaming license at his first attempt, after a month of training. That is absolutely INSANE. He won his first OSL after a year since he had become a progamer. In 2010 he made it to nearly all the finals and carried his team to the PL finals. He won the WCG 2010 and saved a man's life in his spare time.

Let's see if any player can top that.


To ETisME: Flash isn't known for his mechanics, but his strategy. He definitely does not have weak mechanics at all though.
"If you don't drop sweat today, you will drop tears tomorrow" - SlayerSMMA
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5618 Posts
October 20 2011 17:32 GMT
#920
And Flash can play practically any playstyle he wishes to. He's one of the most aggressive players, while having the best defence in BW. He's also the best at mindgames. It often looks as if he was maphacking, e.g. scans an Arbiter right as it's about to head to his base to make a Recall or scouts two different proxies in the same game.
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