EPTor.. you know.. ranked BW ladder on SC2?
Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, Fantasy to Blizzcon 2011 - Page 15
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Roxy
Canada753 Posts
or.. you know.. ranked BW ladder on SC2? | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On October 18 2011 05:06 bgx wrote: I dont want to throw hard speculation but who really knows to what trades Kespa and Blizzard came to? Maybe its some "exchange program" like introducing Top pros to sc2 scene while Blizzard giving hidden support for BW scene. Imho Blizzard openly sponsoring Korean BW would be actually bad marketing for them in terms of SC2 only. ("what? They are sponsoring 11 y game instead of their new brand one? It means SC2 sucks!"etc) edit: Agree with Ribbon The smartest thing Blizzard can do it "We'll sponsor a BW team and help Korean BW get through this global depression, and in exchange you agree to show GSL on OGN a bit down the line", or something of that same idea. Blizz wants the SC2 Korean scene to be big enough to support Korean players (who remain top tier and big draws when they come to foreign SC2 events), but have probably given up on the idea that SC2 is going to replace BW in Korea in the next five years, if ever. Win-win for everyone, really. Korean BW gets a needed sponsorship injection, and Korean SC2 keeps out of bankruptcy, which helps foreign SC2 stay a big deal. That's all speculation, of course. But I think this is a good indication that Blizz has decided they can make more money working with BW than working against it, and fans of both games should be happy about that. Edit: If Blizz is having BW pros come over to do anything SC2 related, that'd be an intensely stupid move, PR-wise. | ||
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Robonord
United States311 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
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MrSparkle
Canada135 Posts
On October 18 2011 04:52 Velinath wrote: I think this is going to be really interesting to see. All of these players with a very vocal fanbase coming over and really being exposed to that - I'm excited to watch their reactions to that. Agreed. Hopefully they'll have a similar experience to what Boxer got when he came over, and look how many times he's been to international tournaments since. I realise it's not the same for BW (what with the lack of international tournaments), but at the very least they will get to see what kind of fan base they have outside of Korea. I reeeaaaally hope they have some show-matches planned XD | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On October 18 2011 04:43 TheOne85 wrote: Most of us will be interested to see them play the new game. Its a new age and current esports needs them to transfer over. See, comments like this make people rage. Vague terms like "current esports need them to transfer over" does not mean anything. There is already an established scene in Korea for BW and it is huge. They don't need to do anything unless they want to. And all those four have quite lucrative deals and are playing really well at the moment. There is no reason to switch if not for some weird fantasy (pun intended) I think It is going to be a nice two-way exposure between SC2 and BW scenes, which is going to benefit both through attracting interest. | ||
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Zeburial
Sweden1126 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6272 Posts
On October 18 2011 05:12 Ribbon wrote: The smartest thing Blizzard can do it "We'll sponsor a BW team and help Korean BW get through this global depression, and in exchange you agree to show GSL on OGN a bit down the line", or something of that same idea. Blizz wants the SC2 Korean scene to be big enough to support Korean players (who remain top tier and big draws when they come to foreign SC2 events), but have probably given up on the idea that SC2 is going to replace BW in Korea in the next five years, if ever. Win-win for everyone, really. Korean BW gets a needed sponsorship injection, and Korean SC2 keeps out of bankruptcy, which helps foreign SC2 stay a big deal. That's all speculation, of course. But I think this is a good indication that Blizz has decided they can make more money working with BW than working against it, and fans of both games should be happy about that. Edit: If Blizz is having BW pros come over to do anything SC2 related, that'd be an intensely stupid move, PR-wise. I don't think Blizzard will sponsor a team since it's just to expensive and their name is already in the boots etc. I do think they might consider supporting the BW scene more since they now make money from it and they benefit from it when it survives. Anyway on topic: It's nice they're coming to blizzcon I hope for some BW and maybe some sc2 showmatches would be fn to see! | ||
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1170 Posts
Fantasy with no Vultures Bisu with no Corsair/Reaver Jangbi can't micro Carriers or do a real Storm Jaedong can do uhhh... 400 APM larva injects and creep spread? Or he can play ZvT and get this Mutalisks shot at off screen by Thors, that'll piss him off. Like realistically, I don't see them doing anything different in SC2. Doubt they'll find anything special that's not known that they can exploit in the short time they'll have played it (if those things even exist at all). Hopefully lots of people will get to meet them and get their signatures and whatnot. And maybe there'll be less people going "Who is Jaedong?" when I mention him in SC2. I mean come on -.- | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
I don't know, explain s'il vous plaît | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On October 18 2011 04:43 TheOne85 wrote: Most of us will be interested to see them play the new game. Its a new age and current esports needs them to transfer over. LOL @ "current esports", just pretend a bw scene in korea doesn't exist yeah? On October 18 2011 05:20 blubbdavid wrote: I am sceptical of that "foreign fanbase". I believe that it is mostly bandwaggoning and I doubt many of these "fans" have seen many games of these players. And while these names maybe prominent on TL, the majority of Blizzcon won't consist of TL. (I think) And yes most of the sc2 crowd couldnt name a progamer besides TBLS | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
On October 18 2011 05:12 Ribbon wrote: The smartest thing Blizzard can do it "We'll sponsor a BW team and help Korean BW get through this global depression, and in exchange you agree to show GSL on OGN a bit down the line", or something of that same idea. Blizz wants the SC2 Korean scene to be big enough to support Korean players (who remain top tier and big draws when they come to foreign SC2 events), but have probably given up on the idea that SC2 is going to replace BW in Korea in the next five years, if ever. Win-win for everyone, really. Korean BW gets a needed sponsorship injection, and Korean SC2 keeps out of bankruptcy, which helps foreign SC2 stay a big deal. That's all speculation, of course. But I think this is a good indication that Blizz has decided they can make more money working with BW than working against it, and fans of both games should be happy about that. Edit: If Blizz is having BW pros come over to do anything SC2 related, that'd be an intensely stupid move, PR-wise. I have to disagree. The sc2 scene, full of kids (sort of like myself) who have only heard names like "Bisu" and "jaedong" in whispers that portend the epicness they will bring would be fucking HYPED to see them play sc2. Furthermore, some Korean SCBW and SC2 players have said in order for the fans to switch, the big names need to switch. Having the BWers play SC2 would be excellent PR wise. I'm not sure if thats what they're going to do, however. Also I don't think Blizz can make money off BW anymore. Not really sure how you think they can...? | ||
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Minitron
Scotland37 Posts
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Velinath
United States694 Posts
On October 18 2011 05:20 blubbdavid wrote: I am sceptical of that "foreign fanbase". I believe that it is mostly bandwaggoning and I doubt many of these "fans" have seen many games of these players. And while these names maybe prominent on TL, the majority of Blizzcon won't consist of TL. (I think) Remember when Boxer came over? People went nuts at his showmatch at Blizzcon, the crowd after his games vs Rain at MLG was INSANE...there's certainly a foreign fanbase. And yes, I realize that both of those references are when he was playing SC2, but icons like Boxer, Jaedong, Flash, etc are pretty big in the foreign fandom. | ||
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DaRKMaTT3r
Brazil553 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15365 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On October 18 2011 05:12 Ribbon wrote: The smartest thing Blizzard can do it "We'll sponsor a BW team and help Korean BW get through this global depression, and in exchange you agree to show GSL on OGN a bit down the line", or something of that same idea. Blizz wants the SC2 Korean scene to be big enough to support Korean players (who remain top tier and big draws when they come to foreign SC2 events), but have probably given up on the idea that SC2 is going to replace BW in Korea in the next five years, if ever. Win-win for everyone, really. Korean BW gets a needed sponsorship injection, and Korean SC2 keeps out of bankruptcy, which helps foreign SC2 stay a big deal. That's all speculation, of course. But I think this is a good indication that Blizz has decided they can make more money working with BW than working against it, and fans of both games should be happy about that. SC2 will never get such Korean dominance as BW given the game design, foreigners were never behind strategically that much in BW, it was mostly mechanics and hard work. I think Blizzard is fighting for the biggest piece of pie which is 4-5 years of global just only slightly / medium Korean favored Starcraft 2 which is what is happening now. If the top of the cream players will be separated from SC2 than it will never fall into total dominance which is big for Blizzard and their business. I mean No LAN gives them already enough power to control every tourney with prize pool bigger than 5k$, kinda shows they are smart enough to comprehend the whole situation. Remember how fast they spotted Huk sharing TLO account, they SEE. Conspiration theories!!11 | ||
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